TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 This one could be bump worthy in about a week. No massive heat wave... Phil was right. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 No massive heat wave... Phil was right.That week went by fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 That week went by fast! Trends are pretty clear... going towards what Phil expected. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Trends are pretty clear... going towards what Phil expected.A well below average June across the entire region? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 12Z GFS OP still pretty warm for a few days, but the ensembles have cooled down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 A well below average June across the entire region?Did I actually say "well below" average? Anyway, I'm glad to see the GFS has woken up. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 PDX is down to average for the month. SEA: +1.6BLI: +1.7WFO Seattle: +1.8OLM: +.5 Definitely been cooler relative to average further south over the past week. For the region as a whole, it's looking like the month will end up fairly close to normal, but of course a major heatwave or a period of prolonged troughing over the next couple weeks could still tilt it more decidedly one way or the other. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Did I actually say "well below" average? Anyway, I'm glad to see the GFS has woken up. You definitely made some statements last month that sounded that way. But you make a lot of statements. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 SEA: +1.6BLI: +1.7WFO Seattle: +1.8OLM: +.5 Definitely been cooler relative to average further south over the past week. For the region as a whole, it's looking like the month will end up fairly close to normal, but of course a major heatwave or a period of prolonged troughing over the next couple weeks could still tilt it more decidedly one way or the other.EUG: -0.8PDX: 0.1SLE: 0.1Station of the gods: 0.5 I recall you saying you'd "judge me" based on SLE/OLM et al. I think I'll pass with a decent grade. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Did I actually say "well below" average? Anyway, I'm glad to see the GFS has woken up.#woke You may have not used those exact words, but you said many things that implied as much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 #woke#MASSIVEheatwave Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 EUG: -0.8PDX: 0.1SLE: 0.1Station of the gods: 0.5 I recall you saying you'd "judge me" based on SLE/OLM et al. I think I'll pass with a decent grade. As I said, it's been cooler further south. Ye shall be judged by the WRCC maps. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 As I said, it's been cooler further south. Ye shall be judged by the WRCC maps.You know those are based on the extrapolation of preliminary data, right? I'm not saying they're wrong, but there are probably better ways to go about it. I'd argue the PRISM maps are better than the WRCC ones. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Sitting at 98*F with a 70*F dewpoint. I don't want to hear Jesse complain about 60*F+ lows ever again. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Euro alert! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 To quote Richard. {^~!]^ The cold is more South}€~!{* 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 These marine layers are straight out of 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Sitting at 98*F with a 70*F dewpoint. I don't want to hear Jesse complain about 60*F+ lows ever again. We haven't even had 65+ dewpoints the past couple summers. It's been remarkably arid. Definitely way overdue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 We haven't even had 65+ dewpoints the past couple summers. It's been remarkably arid. Definitely way overdue.Man oh man, if I could afford a summer home up there... Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Man oh man, if I could afford a summer home up there...Lots of half acre view lots available in suburban Stampede Pass... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Lots of half acre view lots available in suburban Stampede Pass...Bazinga! Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Lots of half acre view lots available in suburban Stampede Pass... My cousin is renting a room this fall on the western side of Glacier Peak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Bazinga!You could get something downtown but you get less bang for your buck and UHI is rampant. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 12z EPS drops another 2" of rain at SEA over the next 15 days. There are two "clusters", but 35/51 members have over 2.5" of rain there thru d15, and 17 of those members have over 4". Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 12z EPS drops another 2" of rain at SEA over the next 15 days. There are two "clusters", but 35/51 members have over 2.5" of rain there thru d15, and 17 of those members have over 4". Another? There has only been rain on 3 days this month and SEA is running about 50% of normal for rainfall. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 FWIW, the EPS sort of reverses the temperature anomaly gradient, with southern zones running warmer/drier compared to northern zones, relative to the current pattern. During the "warm spell" which lasts a few days, the EPS keeps onshore streamflow going over SEA (winds stay W/SW) but PDX sees four days of easterly winds. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Another? There has only been rain on 3 days this month and SEA is running about 50% of normal for rainfall.What? I meant "another", as in 2" more on top of what has already fallen. I wasn't trying to imply that 2" had already fallen. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 What? I meant "another", as in 2" more on top of what has already fallen. I wasn't trying to imply that 2" had already fallen. It sounded like you were saying it has been a wet month and getting wetter. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 It sounded like you were saying it has been a wet month and getting wetter.Well, that's not what I was saying. June is approximately halfway over. If SEA is at 50% of normal rainfall, then it's been a fairly normal month in the rainfall department so far. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 12Z ECMWF showed a high of 60 at SEA today. It was 62 at 2 p.m. and the marine layer is breaking up a little so it will likely get a little warmer. Typical ECMWF. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 12Z ECMWF showed a high of 60 at SEA today. It was 62 at 2 p.m. and the marine layer is breaking up a little so it will likely go warmer. Typical ECMWF. How many posts will you need to make about this until you feel satiated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 It showed a high of 61. If it's a few degrees off in either direction, that's within the margin of error on any day. Yesterday it was two degrees too warm. #notabias Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Sitting at 98*F with a 70*F dewpoint. I don't want to hear Jesse complain about 60*F+ lows ever again.Prepare to be disappointed then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 What? I meant "another", as in 2" more on top of what has already fallen. I wasn't trying to imply that 2" had already fallen.It's ok, you'd almost be right for me if you stated 2" had already fallen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 It showed a high of 61. If it's a few degrees off, that's within the margin of error on any day. #notabias Showed 60 on the 12Z operational run through 5 p.m... but I did see it has 61 after 5 p.m. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that is has a Puget Sound area cool bias. I watch it every single day for this area. Being too cool on about 80% of the days is some kind of weakness. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Prepare to be disappointed then. Lol. We successfully fried an egg on our driveway today. I'll post the video later, but it actually works. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 12Z ECMWF shows 60 at SEA tomorrow which seems quite low. GFS MOS has 70. For this area... the GFS MOS is much more reliable in the warm season. I am guessing 66 or 67 tomorrow. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 12Z ECMWF shows 60 at SEA tomorrow which seems quite low. GFS MOS has 70. For this area... the GFS MOS is much more reliable in the warm season. I am guessing 66 or 67 tomorrow.Double down! My eyes aren't quite bleeding yet. Almost there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 Showed 60 on the 12Z operational run through 5 p.m... but I did see it has 61 after 5 p.m. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that is has a Puget Sound area cool bias. I watch it every single day for this area. Being too cool on about 80% of the days is some kind of weakness. In my universe, 61 means sixty one. http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Mobile%20Uploads/7A5203B0-653B-486E-8C0F-12CDD9D3933D_zps1gdoxayl.png Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 13, 2017 Report Share Posted June 13, 2017 In my universe, 61 means sixty one. Yes... 61 is the official high on the 12Z run. It rarely shows a post-5 p.m. high here but it did today. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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