November 2017 PNW Discussion Thread

[HighlandExperience]

12-13? Boy I must have forgotten that. I remember early Feb 2014 being truly remarkable.

 

I recall Seattle getting screwed in Feb 2014. Was cold though. 

[Geos]

I love going back to his blogs in 2008 and reading about all the warmth in late November.

http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2008/11/very-warm-air.html

And then his blog just 7 days later...

http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2008/12/major-changes-next-friday.html

 

Thanks.

I've been meaning to read into the archives on the best winters here. 

How much snow did you get in December of 2008?

[MossMan]

12-13? Boy I must have forgotten that. I remember early Feb 2014 being truly remarkable.

I had frost on 1/12/13!

[ShawniganLake]

12z EPS continues to improve on the early December pattern. Ridge more amplified and pattern looks less transitory.

 

12z 500mb pattern at day 12

 

 

 

And 5 day temp anomalies from day 10-15.

 

 

[MossMan]

Thanks.

I've been meaning to read into the archives on the best winters here. 

How much snow did you get in December of 2008?

I topped out at 34”! This was Christmas morning, I had parked my Jetta away from the driveway on December 12th in hopes that I would just be using my 4wd Tahoe to get around for a long time and wanted the Jetta out of the way...I was right!

[ShawniganLake]

I topped out at 34”! This was Christmas morning, I had parked my Jetta away from the driveway on December 12th in hopes that I would just be using my 4wd Tahoe to get around for a long time and wanted the Jetta out of the way...I was right!

Was 34” a settled depth or total snowfall for the month?

[Jesse]

Shifting gears to a cold mess?

Models seem to be a little more consistent the last day or so. They were all over the place going into this torchy pattern.

[Jesse]

BLI up to 68 now it appears. Oh well, records were meant to be broken. Except for all of those cold ones from a long time ago.

[TT-SEA]

Warm and muggy out there...

 

[Jesse]

Warm and muggy out there...

 

 

I see snow in those mountains still. Nice that that will be coming back into the picture as soon as tomorrow evening.

[MossMan]

Was 34” a settled depth or total snowfall for the month?

I would measure every day and that was the total. If I remember correctly it was 27" on top of the car on Christmas morning. (If you look closely you can see the hole in the snow on top of the car where I stuck the tape measure in I just noticed haha) 

[Guest El nina]

I see snow in those mountains still. Nice that that will be coming back into the picture as soon as tomorrow evening.

Looks like it's in that picture today.

[Phil]

Beautifully negative state of the northern annular mode on the latest 12z EPS.

 

[MossMan]

I see snow in those mountains still. Nice that that will be coming back into the picture as soon as tomorrow evening.

And its only 39 degrees currently at the summit of Snoqualmie! 

[TT-SEA]

I see snow in those mountains still. Nice that that will be coming back into the picture as soon as tomorrow evening.

My sons are not happy with this weather. They want cold and snow now!

[Geos]

I topped out at 34”! This was Christmas morning, I had parked my Jetta away from the driveway on December 12th in hopes that I would just be using my 4wd Tahoe to get around for a long time and wanted the Jetta out of the way...I was right!

 

Holy cow. And was that at your place in Arlington or did you live somewhere else at that time?

I'll have to go into the CoCoRaHS site and see what the totals were like for my area. Thinking pretty similar since this area gets nailed by the PSCZ.

[TT-SEA]

64 with a dewpoint of 60 at SEA.

 

Bad sleeping weather tonight.

[Geos]

Looks like 62 at home. Just rained again in Bothell. It's actually humid in the building as well.

[Deweydog]

72 at KPLU? Seems warm.

[BLI snowman]

72 at KPLU? Seems warm.

 

Swampin'....

[MossMan]

Holy cow. And was that at your place in Arlington or did you live somewhere else at that time?

I'll have to go into the CoCoRaHS site and see what the totals were like for my area. Thinking pretty similar since this area gets nailed by the PSCZ.

Same place where I live now, we are not quite 300ft and are between I-5 and the sound west of Smokey Point. We do very well with PSCZ's 

[Front Ranger]

Indian Summer!

[Gradient Keeper]

Hard to not like the past several ECMWF runs now. Starting to see some consistency after day 7-8 for the ridge to build near the sweet spot. My hunch is we either see one of two things. Either the models trend colder building off what the ECMWF has been hinting at with ridge developing near 150-155 W and possible cold/arctic pattern or a glancing blow backdoor intrusion into eastern Washington, or we see a big ridge/inversion and fake cold with a cold pool eventually manifesting itself, but not too cold. That could get a boost from cold air spilling over the Rockies into eastern Washington. This would be through December 4th - 7th.

[BLI snowman]

A little jealous to be missing out on this epic torch here. Our temps have been quite monotonous lately.

[TT-SEA]

Indian Summer!

 

 

Not here... has not froze yet!  

 

More sun today than I was expecting...

 

[TT-SEA]

SEA is up to 66 now.   But the dewpoint has dropped to 59 so its a little more tolerable out there.   Stay hydrated people!

[MossMan]

SEA is up to 66 now. But the dewpoint has dropped to 59 so its a little more tolerable out there. Stay hydrated people!

I have the A/C running in my office!

[Jesse]

[BLI snowman]

Thank God for the Gorge.

 

One has to wonder if the subdued torch here means bad things for our winter, locally? 

 

Puyallup and Roseburg should be golden.

[Jesse]

One has to wonder if the subdued torch here means bad things for our winter, locally? 

 

Puyallup and Roseburg should be golden.

 

True, regional winter weather events in which Gorge influenced areas are much cooler than other parts of the western lowlands usually don't work out too great for us.

[BLI snowman]

True, regional winter weather events in which Gorge influenced areas are much cooler than other parts of the western lowlands usually don't work out too great for us.

 

Interestingly, I remember the gorge keeping us a bit cool in 1996 compared to some other areas.

[Jesse]

Interestingly, I remember the gorge keeping us a bit cool in 1996 compared to some other areas.

 

Worked out terribly for us in January 1998 as well. I felt pretty jipped breaking up what was a solidly torchy winter for the rest of the region. 

[Deweydog]

Barely legal Z!!!

 

Roy's favorite run!

[Jesse]

Barely legal Z!!!

 

Roy's favorite run!

I had him pegged as more of a 12z guy.

[TT-SEA]

67 at SEA now... but it has crashed down to 61 at BLI.   

[TT-SEA]

Also jumped up to 69 now in Renton.   

 

If there is a high of 70 there today... that has to be the latest ever for KRNT.     

[Jesse]

Overcast and 53 here.

[Geos]

Little cooler up here, but still quite nice overall. 63/60 right now.

[TT-SEA]

Renton is not on WRCC... interesting.

 

SEA broke their record high for the day by 9 degrees so far.

[umadbro]

62. The Willamette has a layer of fog over it.