Geos Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Definitely looks cold enough Sunday night on the EURO to get Tim his first freeze. Frosty throughout the region. Monday night even colder. Looks like highs struggle to reach 40 except near the water. Rest of the week through Friday - definitely has some chillier nights. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 The ridge just rebuilds and doesn't budge once again on the 12z. I'm having a really hard time believing that solution in a Niña. More likely that we see things breakdown in the 8-10 day period with the NPAC flow breaking through. I'd love to be wrong though.Eh, I think in this case it's actually aided by the Niña since convection can focus better over the IPWP when the background state favors it. In a Niño you can see more EPAC/WHEM forcing which does extend the jet. Last winter we saw plenty of jet extensions with forcing not bound to the EHEM by that pathetic excuse for a Niña. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Yes, keep that icky cold away. We all know that moisture is the hardest ingredient to come by around here! It will be cold enough for snow regardless.The inversion should satisfy your cold needs. Enjoy! And yes moisture is really tough to come by in that setup up here...but not impossible... that being said it is Lala land and is about as meaningless as the seriousness of that post. Tag ur it! Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 There's no amount of tilting that would be enough to save us with the block in that position. Better odds if it were undercut and rephrased over the Central Pacific.Or continue the long period retrogression over the next month? You guys just refuse to buy into this idea, for some reason. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Or continue the long period retrogression over the next month? You guys just refuse to buy into this idea, for some reason. Wishful thinking. Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I was just gonna say...that's the first semi-legit retrograde setup I've seen. Rising heights over the Aleutians, flattening +PNA ridge...The PNA system is actually stronger on the 12z Euro compared to the 00z Euro. The type of retrogression we're looking at here is something more prolonged and driven by dynamics in East-Asia. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 My hamster ate its young when I was around that age... I was done with hamsters at that point. It was a traumatic day! I accidentally killed my hamster when I closed the door and smashed it against the door frame. Traumatizing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Let's hope the winter dreams of this forum fare better than our hamsters! Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I accidentally killed my hamster when I closed the door and smashed it against the door frame. Traumatizing!My brother and mom accidentally did the same thing when I was at school. 4th grade I think. That was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 My brother and mom accidentally did the same thing when I was at school. 4th grade I think. That was awful.I used to feel bad for my hamster having to stay in a cage so I would build a fort for him that “he couldn’t get out of” on the floor. He was never there when I would wake up in the morning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 My brother and mom accidentally did the same thing when I was at school. 4th grade I think. That was awful. Let's hope the winter dreams of this forum fare better than our hamsters! I dedicate this winter to all the dearly departed hamsters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I accidentally killed my hamster when I closed the door and smashed it against the door frame. Traumatizing!A cousin of mine "accidentally" killed his sister's hamster by stomping on it with his bare foot. He wasn't right in the head. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I dedicate this winter to all the dearly departed hamsters.Let's hope some Christmas hamsters freeze to death in uninsulated garages this January! 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Who knew that Tim’s freeze resistant roses would spark such a lively hamster discussion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Who knew that Tim’s freeze resistant roses would spark such a lively hamster discussion.If you had Flatiron's list of analogs you would have known months ago. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 If you had Flatiron's list of analogs you would have known months ago.You’re on your A game this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Let's hope some Christmas hamsters freeze to death in uninsulated garages this January! I don't know, most hamsters have a pretty good coat of fur. I had hamsters too, and I had fairly good luck with them. Let's go back on topic now. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Richard Gere approves of this hamster talk 4 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I don't know, most hamsters have a pretty good coat of fur. I had hamsters too, and I had fairly good luck with them. Let's go back on topic now.The distinct threat speaks to just how extreme this January may be. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Snowing all the way down to Cle Elum now. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Who knew that Tim’s freeze resistant roses would spark such a lively hamster discussion.They are not freeze resistant. They will go dormant when it actually freezes! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 The distinct threat speaks to just how extreme this January may be. Well hopefully no one keeps their hamsters in the garage. I hope it's cold enough to freeze some of the rodents that are around. i.e. Rats, mice. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 If you had Flatiron's list of analogs you would have known months ago. I don't choose the analogs, they choose me. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 A cousin of mine "accidentally" killed his sister's hamster by stomping on it with his bare foot. He wasn't right in the head. No kidding. Red flag. Mine really was accidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Richard Gere approves of this hamster talk That rumor (gerbil, actually) emerged shortly after Pretty Woman came out. That movie was released in 1990. ANAL LOG??? 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Snowing all the way down to Cle Elum now. I am surprised that its not snowing more at Cle Elum. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I don't choose the analogs, they choose me.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6pLRkv_YZRc 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Much more wimpy block on the 12Z ECMWF at day 10... this looks somewhat promising to me. I was just gonna say...that's the first semi-legit retrograde setup I've seen. Rising heights over the Aleutians, flattening +PNA ridge...Yeah, definitely like where this run is going day 9-10. A fairly sharp, amplified ridge over the Aleutians, downstream trough and system over northwest territories, northern BC/AB weakens and flattens ridge over us and there ya go. 18z GFS in 33 minutes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadbro Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 That greenland block is holding strong though. As long as that's there. Nothing is going to happen 1 Quote https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/efcb24c8a999dceddfaba7469ce5bd2f my personal weather station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeinthevalley Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Richard Gere approves of this hamster talkI believe it was a gerbil. Don't ask me how I know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I believe it was a gerbil. Don't ask me how I knowLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I believe it was a gerbil. Don't ask me how I knowi think the only people that know the difference between a hamster and a gerbal are the ones who use them like Richard did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Glad my hamster simply died of old age. Though I do remember he died when there was snow on the ground in late 1992 since I had to get though some hard cold ground to bury him. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 OT, but I think we just had another earthquake in DC. Whatever it was, it rattled the windows and dishes. Didn't feel nearly as bad as 2011 though. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbolin Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 OT, but I think we just had another earthquake in DC. Whatever it was, it rattled the windows and dishes. Didn't feel nearly as bad as 2011 though.Conspiracy theorist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Yep, M4.4 centered in Dover, DE. I'm kinda surprised we felt it over here, west of the Fall Line. Seems kind of weak/far away. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 Conspiracy theoristDrawing a blank here. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 The JAMA weeklies are out, and we turn colder the week of Dec. 24-31st. Don't know how cold, but that is the coldest time of year anyway, so it doesn't take much for it to be snow. Wish I knew how to directly post tweets. https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/936170391319355392 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 The modeling has really trended away from the deep -NAO circulation, and more towards a -EPO dominated blocking regime. Im hindsight, it makes sense, given the tendency for the NAO and PNA to constructively resonate. Also, the +PNA is more sustainable under -EPO/+WPO that +EPO/-WPO. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 The JAMA weeklies are out, and we turn colder the week of Dec. 24-31st. Don't know how cold, but that is the coldest time of year anyway, so it doesn't take much for it to be snow. Wish I knew how to directly post tweets. https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/936170391319355392Looks like a retrogression to me. #NotTooAmplified Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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