June Weather in the Pacific Northwest

[Jesse]

I could be mixing up Mark nelsens blog at the time, but I do seem to remember discussing the epic snowstorm in Portland which I believe took place in either December 2004 or January 2005.

I want to say Mark’s blog started on 12/1/05.

 

His first post was about the snowstorm that ended up being an epic bust for the NWS. That was leading into the fake cold snap that held on through the overrunning event on the 18th.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

I could be mixing up Mark nelsens blog at the time, but I do seem to remember discussing the epic snowstorm in Portland which I believe took place in either December 2004 or January 2005.

I don't remember an epic snowstorm in Dec 2004 or Jan 2005. I was in Eugene at the time and the only snow from that whole winter that I remember was a mix in some 1000-500 ft event.

 

You're probly thinking of the Dec 2003 into Jan 2004 event which I think was the only major snow event for the valley between the mid 90s and Dec 2008.

[Geos]

Your math seems a little off

 

Yep. Ok 8x

Too early for math at 7am. lol

[TT-SEA]

I don't remember an epic snowstorm in Dec 2004 or Jan 2005. I was in Eugene at the time and the only snow from that whole winter that I remember was a mix in some 1000-500 ft event.

 

You're probly thinking of the Dec 2003 into Jan 2004 event which I think was the only major snow event for the valley between the mid 90s and Dec 2008.

 

 

January 2005 is infamous for the complete model collapse leading up to what looked like an all-time historic event.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

January 2005 is infamous for the complete model collapse leading up to what looked like an all-time historic event.

What was the progression? Models made it looke like a slam dunk until 4 days before then it all slid east? I didn't start model riding until 2008.

[TT-SEA]

What was the progression? Models made it looke like a slam dunk until 4 days before then it all slid east? I didn't start model riding until 2008.

 

I don't remember the details... but I think it ended up swinging way out over the ocean.

[TT-SEA]

Almost 2.5 inches of rain here in the last 6 days... it is truly sopping wet out there. 

 

Now lets get this warm and dry party started!  

[Andrew.]

I don't remember an epic snowstorm in Dec 2004 or Jan 2005. I was in Eugene at the time and the only snow from that whole winter that I remember was a mix in some 1000-500 ft event.

 

You're probly thinking of the Dec 2003 into Jan 2004 event which I think was the only major snow event for the valley between the mid 90s and Dec 2008.

It could be January of 2004. Portland got hammered compared to the rest of the valley due to the gorge pumping out east winds throughout the event.

[ShawniganLake]

Yep. Ok 8x

Too early for math at 7am. lol

The c zone is such an interesting phenomenon. There was barely a cloud in the sky up here yesterday evening.

[TT-SEA]

The c zone is such an interesting phenomenon. There was barely a cloud in the sky up here yesterday evening.

 

 

We finally went to see Deadpool 2 last night... the drive from Issaquah to home afterwards was like going through an endless car wash.   

 

Just dumping rain and visibility was terrible.  Lots of ponding on the freeway.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

It could be January of 2004. Portland got hammered compared to the rest of the valley due to the gorge pumping out east winds throughout the event.

West valley too. Cold air dam tends to keep them in the snow longer generally west of I-5 about as far south as Corvallis sometimes while southerly winds come up the east valley.

[ShawniganLake]

We finally went to see Deadpool 2 last night... the drive from Issaquah to home afterwards was like going through an endless car wash.

 

Just dumping rain and visibility was terrible. Lots of ponding on the freeway.

How was it?

 

And yea, I noticed some strong radar returns when I got home from work yesterday. Around 930

[TT-SEA]

How was it?

 

And yea, I noticed some strong radar returns when I got home from work yesterday. Around 930

Expectations are higher for any sequel... not quite as good as the first one but still very good. Laugh out loud funny too.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

The c zone is such an interesting phenomenon. There was barely a cloud in the sky up here yesterday evening.

 

Looks like the potential exists for some convective showers rolling down the island today.

[Andrew.]

West valley too. Cold air dam tends to keep them in the snow longer generally west of I-5 about as far south as Corvallis sometimes while southerly winds come up the east valley.

Yep that's part of the reason I chose the west side of town in the hills. The foothills to the east even at the highest elevations I have seen screwed more times than not due to the warm tongue.

[TT-SEA]

Yep that's part of the reason I chose the west side of town in the hills. The foothills to the east even at the highest elevations I have seen screwed more times than not due to the warm tongue.

 

Try to keep the sex stuff out of this discussion.  

[Kayla]

Yep that's part of the reason I chose the west side of town in the hills. The foothills to the east even at the highest elevations I have seen screwed more times than not due to the warm tongue.

 

Also be prepared for lots of freezing rain! I moved from 1,100' in the west hills a year and a half ago and my location ALWAYS held on to ZR far longer than anywhere else. Lost power there multiple times a winter for long durations because of it. Was one of the reasons we decided on the move in all honesty. But then January 2017 happened...

[Farmboy]

Just thought I'd share this, I saw this floating around on social media.  It pretty clearly communicates how people here feel about the need to shake off winter doldrums, and their desire for warm summer weather.  So this is mainly for Phil's benefit, who is under the illusion that everyone in the PNW must enjoy cool, drizzly weather all summer. 

[Jesse]

Try to keep the sex stuff out of this discussion.

I see Deadpool’s laugh out loud humor has rubbed off on you.

 

I just said rubbed off. Lol!

[Jesse]

I think encouraging violence towards those who don’t agree with my weather preferences could really take this forum to the next level!

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Try to keep the sex stuff out of this discussion.

Zero chance that happens here anymore.

[Farmboy]

I think encouraging violence towards those who don’t agree with my weather preferences could really take this forum to the next level!

 

 

Nobody is encouraging violence, it's just some crass internet humor...

[Geos]

The c zone is such an interesting phenomenon. There was barely a cloud in the sky up here yesterday evening.

 

It is interesting. It was low clouds and a moderate rain for the most part from 5:30 pm to sometime after midnight. 

 

Now it's clearing up pretty quickly to the west. 

[Front Ranger]

 

This map really illustrates the localized nature of the heavy rain recently. Most places are still easily below normal for the month.

 

[TT-SEA]

This map really illustrates the localized nature of the heavy rain recently. Most places are still easily below normal for the month.

 

MonthPNormWRCC-NW.png

 

 

Clearly the heavy rain yesterday was localized to northern and central King County... very typical thanks to our favorable c-zone location.     

 

Also why I never worry about rain... it always comes around here even when the rest of the region is dry.   

[Front Ranger]

Just thought I'd share this, I saw this floating around on social media.  It pretty clearly communicates how people here feel about the need to shake off winter doldrums, and their desire for warm summer weather.  So this is mainly for Phil's benefit, who is under the illusion that everyone in the PNW must enjoy cool, drizzly weather all summer. 

 

As long as it's ok to high five people in the face with chairs when they start complaining about anything besides heat!

[Geos]

This map really illustrates the localized nature of the heavy rain recently. Most places are still easily below normal for the month.

 

MonthPNormWRCC-NW.png

 

Will be able to chip away at the deficit in northern half of King after all the rain is added up from this event. 

[TT-SEA]

It is interesting. It was low clouds and a moderate rain for the most part from 5:30 pm to sometime after midnight. 

 

Now it's clearing up pretty quickly to the west. 

 

Woke up to pouring rain but now there is lots of blue sky and the sun is coming out.    Don't need to water until sometime next week now... its back to being very wet here. 

[Front Ranger]

Will be able to chip away at the deficit in northern half of King after all the rain is added up from this event. 

 

For sure.

 

BLI, SEA, OLM, PDX and SLE will all still be running below normal precip for the month.

[Geos]

Woke up to pouring rain but now there is lots of blue sky and the sun is coming out.    Don't need to water until sometime next week now... its back to being very wet here. 

 

What do you average out there annually? 70"?

[TT-SEA]

What do you average out there annually? 70"?

 

 

North Bend averages around 60 inches.

 

I believe it is above 80 inches up here though.    

[Geos]

North Bend averages around 60 inches.

 

I believe it is above 80 inches up here though.    

 

Ok. Probably almost double to here.

I found this page. Looks like about 64-65" in town.

https://www.northbendweather.com/wxrainsummary.php

[TT-SEA]

Ok. Probably almost double to here.

I found this page. Looks like about 64-65" in town.

https://www.northbendweather.com/wxrainsummary.php

 

 

Yeah... but that really only covers this decade and its been a really wet decade.   Maybe that is the new normal though... warmer and wetter.

[Phil]

Mariners are 20 games over .500 and playing like they don't have a care in the world. Could it be real this year? They are really fun to watch this season.

The Yankees will dispatch them in short order.

[Andrew.]

Try to keep the sex stuff out of this discussion.

We get real kinky up here in the hills!

[Phil]

Just thought I'd share this, I saw this floating around on social media. It pretty clearly communicates how people here feel about the need to shake off winter doldrums, and their desire for warm summer weather. So this is mainly for Phil's benefit, who is under the illusion that everyone in the PNW must enjoy cool, drizzly weather all summer.

 

Spend a summer here and see if you still like heat afterwards. Everyone I know loves cool, cloudy days during the summer. There is no debate. It’s just a fact that drizzly, cloudy weather is preferable to heat and/or humidity.

 

End of story.

[Andrew.]

Also be prepared for lots of freezing rain! I moved from 1,100' in the west hills a year and a half ago and my location ALWAYS held on to ZR far longer than anywhere else. Lost power there multiple times a winter for long durations because of it. Was one of the reasons we decided on the move in all honesty. But then January 2017 happened...

January 2017 was epic! And luckily for me I have the ability to work remotely so I say bring it on! I've been thinking of buying a generator as well.

[Phil]

Westerlies downwelling through the upper stratosphere.

 

Good chance we’ll have another mixed-QBO winter in 2018/19, but opposite of last winter in the sense that we’ll have westerlies at/above 40mb and easterlies at/below 50mb.

 

[TT-SEA]

Inching upwards... lets hope this stops and it hovers around neutral.

 

[Phil]

EPS @ D6.

 

The PNW is (once again) experiencing the most anomalous warmth of anywhere on the planet.