SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 EPS looks good. Bring on the model wars! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 No major improvements on the GFS though. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Amazing what a high water mark the 12z GFS was yesterday. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 At least the mountains could get snow. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Fog has lifted here quite a bit. Ugh.Same! UGH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Once again, I have to reiterate the fact that weather is insignificant to real real life stuff. Be thankful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeInEverett Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Has there been an FV3 run that WASN'T good in the last week or so? It's almost laughable at this point. Quote (Previous name: MillCreekMike) Everett, WA (elev. 180’) 2023-2024 Snowfall: 1/11: Tr. 1/18: Tr. Go M’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Ensembles still look okayish. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 These cameras are less than a mile apart. One's completely socked in, the other clear. Still very dense fog and drizzle here in Battle Ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 06z ensembles were slightly better than the 00z ones. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Clear and 34 here this morning with what looks to be a beautiful sunrise beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Once again, I have to reiterate the fact that weather is insignificant to real real life stuff. Be thankfulWeather is part of real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Weather is part of real life.Yes, but very, very low on the totem pole of importance for most people. Unless we are talking about disasters or farmers I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Yes, but very, very low on the totem pole of importance for most people. Unless we are talking about disasters or farmers I guess.Yeah those were a few examples that came to mind. I see it as sort of a package deal I guess. There are a lot of things people care about that you could argue are really insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Meanwhile in Alabama...only a couple of inches but that's still more than we have! Winter Storm WarningURGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENational Weather Service Huntsville AL340 AM CST Mon Jan 28 2019...RAINFALL QUICKLY CHANGING OVER TO SNOW LATE TONIGHT....A strong cold front will move eastward through the region latetonight into Tuesday morning. Rainfall overspreading the regionalong and just ahead of the front will quickly changeover to snowfrom west to east in the wake of the frontal passage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Crystal clear here and 46... but not much of an east wind yet. Looks like the inversion is just lowering. There is still some fog down in the valley here but this camera was completely socked in just 15 minutes ago so its improving quickly now even down there. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 PDX down to 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 I posted this picture 4 years ago this morning on 1/28/2015 from the same North Bend web cam. We had very similar conditions that morning with a lowering inversion and fog in the valley. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Completely insignificant sunrise this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 12z running now! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Totally lost the ICON now. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 The fog started to lift just at sunrise...with strong east winds at the 400' level above Battle Ground while I was flying the drone. Note: You can see Mt. Jefferson off in the distance to the right! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Awesome pics Tyler. 1 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 The fog started to lift just at sunrise...with strong east winds at the 400' level above Battle Ground while I was flying the drone. Note: You can see Mt. Jefferson off in the distance to the right!Ok you win the sunrise battle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hour 72 and you can already tell its going to be a dud in the realistic range. Problem is the initial trough is baggy and splitty. Easy to see the difference when comparing to the good runs. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1089854555637063680?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hour 72 and you can already tell its going to be a dud in the realistic range. Problem is the initial trough is baggy and splitty. Easy to see the difference when comparing to the good runs.At least the FV3 looks awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Hour 72 and you can already tell its going to be a dud in the realistic range. Problem is the initial trough is baggy and splitty. Easy to see the difference when comparing to the good runs. A trend that started yesterday morning on all the models. And the problem with the ensembles is that there will still be a deep trough across the West... but the devil is in the details with the splitting and the bulk of the energy going into CA. So the blended ensemble mean still looks troughy but it might not mean anything great. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbolin Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Completely insignificant sunrise this morning. 4D6F1752-0F57-4D6E-A1F6-2E6F206ADE3F.jpegHappy ******* Monday bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 12Z GFS has some rain on Friday and then is pretty much dry for the weekend with most of the rain in CA. Split flow in charge. Here is Sunday afternoon... no Super Bowl snowstorm for us. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1089854555637063680?s=19Not exactly niño climo. If you filter out the ERW feedback onto the RMMs, the real MJO is actually in the WHEM right now, preparing to orbit back into the IO/IPWP, where it meet up with the ERW train in the Indo-China domain. Hence the tendency towards the broad NPAC anticyclone in the long range ensemble means. FWIW, this ERW cycle that has been ongoing across IPWP/WPAC (between 120E and the dateline) has built a low pass signal there which has been amplified w/ each MJO crossing. That’s a classic pre-niño forcing structure in the post-1998 era. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Crystal clear here and 46... but not much of an east wind yet. Looks like the inversion is just lowering. There is still some fog down in the valley here but this camera was completely socked in just 15 minutes ago so its improving quickly now even down there. And its gone... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Not exactly niño climo. If you filter out the ERW feedback onto the RMMs, the real MJO is actually in the WHEM right now, preparing to orbit back into the IO/IPWP, where it meet up with the ERW train in the Indo-China domain. Hence the tendency towards the broad NPAC anticyclone in the long range ensemble means. FWIW, this ERW cycle that has been ongoing across IPWP/WPAC (between 120E and the dateline) has built a low pass signal there which has been amplified w/ each MJO crossing. That’s a classic pre-niño forcing structure in the post-1998 era.Which is why, given said amplification (over what are already the warmest waters on the planet) and the state of AAM transfer, you can probably bet that models are underestimating the degree of dateline/central Pacific forcing during the middle and/or later part of February at this range. Which makes me think this -PNA regime won’t be as stable or long lasting in the extended range as some of the ensemble means suggest (sorry to be the bearer of bad news). Also, the EPS can have trouble propagating the MJO across the IPWP when initializing the MJO in the IO/late WHEM. So that might be something to watch for. Perhaps this will be one of the rare cases where the GEFS leads the way, with its WHEM bias actually playing correctly. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 The 12Z GFS continues to show the cold air getting shoved east. GEM looking okay with a glancing blow with the cold. Overall not liking the trends, but as long as we have the EPS on our sides I'm not too unhappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 The 12Z GFS continues to show the cold air getting shoved east. GEM looking okay with a glancing blow with the cold. Overall not liking the trends, but as long as we have the EPS on our sides I'm not too unhappy. I don't think the EPS is really on our side. The blended mean shows a western trough and that is pretty much a given now... but that does not mean cold and snow. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 As long as the block is in the 145 to 150 range we have a good chance of something good despite what models show now. I'm happy with some cold nw flow. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 The GEM and GFS are not even close to anything interesting. It's amazing how good the GFS and its ensembles were trending and how quickly the totally did an about face. I guess we should have expected it, but a continuation of the same split flow pattern which has been dominant is almost a given now. Maybe some snow at the passes, yay. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 The GEM and GFS are not even close to anything interesting. It's amazing how good the GFS and its ensembles were trending and how quickly the totally did an about face. I guess we should have expected it, but a continuation of the same split flow pattern which has been dominant is almost a given now. Maybe some snow at the passes, yay. I agree. The ensembles can definitely give false hope as we have seen all winter. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 As long as the block is in the 145 to 150 range we have a good chance of something good despite what models show now. I'm happy with some cold nw flow.What about the Salmon? Don’t they deserve a winter too? Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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