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2/11 - 2/13 Major Winter Storm


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Its going to get real nasty here in our neck of the woods Tuesday night into Wednesday Jaster, get ready.

 

Prolly 3 am like always! I'll be sound asleep and miss the bad stuff :lol:

 

 

DSM may not be in as bad as spot as I thought earlier today. About 3.5" snow with a nice band to the SW and slowly back building. NOW MOVE THROUGH NICE AND SLOOOOW.......  6" is not out of question -- and no worries with that d**n PL and FZRA. Just about 7" on the ground with a shot of first double digit snow depth in a LONG TiME! *** edit *** since JAN- but before that it was a long time...

 

Welp. Another storm. Another bust here. It’s amazing we just can’t get a good 6+” snowfall here very often.

 

I'm amazed at how you Hawkeye state peeps work so hard to get a dbl digit storm. Closest official station to me is BC and while we haven't hit dbl digits the past two winters, there were too many to keep track of in the prior 15 yrs. Heck, I think Detroit's had at least 15 in that same time. Hope you score big when this is all done!

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Freezing rain/sleet now occurring here as well. I hope this switches back to snow before too long. At least the snow will continue into the morning hours, so hopefully this switch over does not cut into totals too much here. 

 

We're losing three hours to the mix, three hours that would have produced 2-3" of snow.  :(

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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Weenie map says snow's a knockin on my door, but it's not "CC" nor even "Ten cc" so who knows?

 

Screenshot_2019-02-11 MI - Cadillac Current Radar Radar Maps Weather Underground.png

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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The back edge of the mix is shooting northeast toward Cedar Rapids, so we should be out of it in 30 minutes or so.  Unfortunately, the main slug of precip is over.  Maybe we can add 1-2 more inches overnight.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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Similar to Hawkeye earlier, gotta be something going on. Don’t see any sleet yet, but the rate here has gone done, despite radar returns looking good. I expect ice pellets to be hitting my window shortly.

 

On the edge of some heavy returns. So either we’re about to get some nice sleet, or it’s gonna be poundtown with snow.

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Hearing it's really icy in Chicago, even The Loop. Tom??

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Interesting Facebook post by NWS MKE.

 

We've had a lot of comments about warning decisions being made w/this event. Every winter storm is different. We know that there are a lot of decisions being made on these forecasts, so sometimes we can give warnings to others earlier based on our confidence.

 

We've had feedback that we've been going too high on many of our forecast amounts for snowfall this year, so we've been taking a slower approach on this event because there was uncertainty. It is a fast mover and the models don't always do a great job w/these events.

 

When Milwaukee or Madison are involved in those decisions, they become magnified by the number of eyes on the forecast. Bottom line: Know that we're putting a lot of effort into these difficult forecasts to make you aware of what is coming your way. -TH

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^+1 -- (too the facebook post from MKE)  if only the avg person understand the near infinite amount of variables involved. Almost all snow events come down to radar returns / PL / mixing in-- as was seen tonight in E.IA.

The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang.

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It's snowing here now as well.  It's pretty light, though.

 

Waterloo may end up beating Cedar Rapids in snowfall.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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DSM may not be in as bad as spot as I thought earlier today. About 3.5" snow with a nice band to the SW and slowly back building. NOW MOVE THROUGH NICE AND SLOOOOW.......  6" is not out of question -- and no worries with that d**n PL and FZRA. Just about 7" on the ground with a shot of first double digit snow depth in a LONG TiME! *** edit *** since JAN- but before that it was a long time...

 

I agree with that  probaby at 4.5 to 5 in DSM with a nice band to wrap it up.

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Snow is now starting to show up on my radar.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Well, I’m off to bed. Hopefully it changed back to full snow here soon and we can get some decent accumulation on the tail end of this. We should also have some wrap around snows in this area, which should add a little to accumulations. But D**n warm air! Way to ruin a good thing. Pretty annoying seeing such good radar returns go to waste.

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I should head to bed as well.  Radar is not encouraging.  The dry area moving in from the sw is not filling in, so an inch may be the most we can get.  The snow may actually taper off to flurries within the next hour.  It appears I was right to guess 5 inches again.  I swear, if models spit out 2 inches of precip, all snow, I still might guess 5 inches.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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Im surrounded by 4-6" reports but i just measured 3.5". Always seems like my measurements are less than nearby reports.

When I lived in Cedar Falls there was always, always, always more snow in Waterloo. It's crazy 5 or 10 miles makes such a difference repeatedly. I have a friend who swears it's because of the river....

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about 5" here on the West Side of DSM.--- got of work at midnight and bajaing down a Virgin I-80 at 65mph brings back memories of Lake Mille Lacs (C.MN large lake)  when I had a sleeper fish house. That teaches you how to drive-- OK -- we taught ourselves. Good times..... Good Luck to those East of here-- the last band means business. 

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The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang.

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Hearing it's really icy in Chicago, even The Loop. Tom??

Sure is Jaster as I was put under an Ice Storm Warning last night and have about 0.5" of Ice!  I've never been through an ice storm in recent memory so I guess that checks that off the list.  The NAM did the best as far as the ice potential with this one.

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