TigerWoodsLibido Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 I think I've got it. It was southbound on I-5 at Diamond Hill Rd. (Exit 209) near Harrisburg, taken with a zoom lens that brought in the distant hills. Sorry, but it was bugging me That zone of extreme north Lane County up to about Albany is one of the prime spots for Willamette Valley tornadoes. I believe quite a few have been seen around Brownsville in the past. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Not quite. If anything you’d have the opposite effect on daytime highs with more water vapor in the atmosphere. Keep in mind the work that goes into latent heating and the specific heat capacity of H2O, which is dipolar. Sure, I understand that you are going to have a limit on the heat capacity of H2O affecting the highs but as we head into Autumn, solar power is a losing its battle and having higher moisture content might be enough to slightly offset the decaying solar energy. Wouldn't this possibly raise low and high surface temps above historical average during the Fall and Winter months? Again, I'm referencing specifically to the effects in the PNW. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Are you sure? There's no Exit 209 on Beltline. There's an Exit 209 on I-5 about 15 miles north in Harrisburg but the topography doesn't look like that.You are correct. It was from I-5. The funnel was near Creswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 That zone of extreme north Lane County up to about Albany is one of the prime spots for Willamette Valley tornadoes. I believe quite a few have been seen around Brownsville in the past. If I remember correctly, that's one of the flatter parts of the Willamette Valley? Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Stellar day here... better than I was expecting. Sunny from the start with just a few puffy clouds floating around and up to 71. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Nice day here in Olympia. Everyone’s been asking me “how’s Flatiron???” Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Dang you guys STILL think he was talking about the President?Purty sure I was one of the first to make the comparison. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Probably overdone... but still looks wet. And really wet up there as expected. Yet somehow there is not a single rainy day for the Seattle area on this run. Most of the precip in this area comes on Thursday night and Saturday night. Hmm, not bad. Enough to green up the lawns before autumn weather really arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Nice day here in Olympia. Everyone’s been asking me “how’s Flatiron???”Nice day here in the west metro as well. Wonder if September 11 in 1949 was a nice day... possible analog? EDIT: It was 71/47 at PDX with no precipitation. Probably a pretty nice day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Not to be persnickety, but I believe this is incorrect as well. Not even the foreshortening effect of the telephoto lens would put the funnel anywhere near Creswell. More like a few miles northeast of Coburg.I meant coburg. Maybe too much internet for me today. Btw, one of the local tv mets was storm chasing and the pic was taken from his passenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Nice day here in the west metro as well. Wonder if September 11 in 1949 was a nice day... possible analog? EDIT: It was 71/47 at PDX with no precipitation. Probably a pretty nice day.Sounds inanely arctic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 That zone of extreme north Lane County up to about Albany is one of the prime spots for Willamette Valley tornadoes. I believe quite a few have been seen around Brownsville in the past.http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado/Oregon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 No 9/11 jokes from Dewey? Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Sure, I understand that you are going to have a limit on the heat capacity of H2O affecting the highs but as we head into Autumn, solar power is a losing its battle and having higher moisture content might be enough to slightly offset the decaying solar energy. Wouldn't this possibly raise low and high surface temps above historical average during the Fall and Winter months? Again, I'm referencing specifically to the effects in the PNW.The laws of thermodynamics/heat transfer don’t change from season to season or region to region. To oversimplify it a bit, increasing the relative moisture content within the lower boundary layer will increase the thermal capacity of the airmass, such that it’s heats/cools more slowly given the same amount of work done on it via solar radiation. You don’t just “start out from a warmer benchmark” the next day after a warm/humid night and just warm from there at the same rate as if the air mass were unchanged. The more humid airmass will warm more slowly. Apart from the individual molecular dynamics there will (possibly) be more clouds, and more rainfall to evaporate, etc, all of which involves latent heat absorption or the reflection of solar radiation which reduces the specific heating of the surface/near surface layer. 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted September 11, 2019 Report Share Posted September 11, 2019 Take it!Perfect! Now I just need to find a spare hour or two to get back to the lake and get it on the trailer...Not an easy thing finding time these days! Currently cloudy and 66 degrees. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Looks like the cooler wetter summer east of the mountains has hurt the apple crops:( https://komonews.com/news/local/local-cider-makers-face-challenges-from-the-latest-apple-harvest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Looks like the cooler wetter summer east of the mountains has hurt the apple crops:( https://komonews.com/news/local/local-cider-makers-face-challenges-from-the-latest-apple-harvestExcept that’s not actually what the article says. This should all make for great pointless debate material, though:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 No 9/11 jokes from Dewey? Not on 9/11 you sick f*ck. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Not on 9/11 you sick f*ck.Too timely? Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Except that’s not actually what the article says. This should all make for great pointless debate material, though:). It was a poorly written article but it indicated the cooler wetter weather caused fungal problems. They then said there were also benefits though to that weather but gave no examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 . It was a poorly written article but it indicated the cooler wetter weather caused fungal problems. They then said there were also benefits though to that weather but gave no examples.It also said that it was only for cider apples specifically. Not the regular apples you find in the produce section, which did well with the more average weather this summer. Then they mentioned that the changes to the cider apples wasn’t going to decrease cider production, there might just be different varieties this year. They also said the fungal issues were preferable to the problems caused by heat and drought. Kind of seemed like a pointless article overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 . It was a poorly written article but it indicated the cooler wetter weather caused fungal problems. They then said there were also benefits though to that weather but gave no examples.My cider might taste different although just like wine I would never know the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 It also said that it was only for cider apples specifically. Not the regular apples you find in the produce section, which did well with the more average weather this summer. Then they mentioned that the changes to the cider apples wasn’t going to decrease cider production, there might just be different varieties this year. They also said the fungal issues were preferable to the problems caused by heat and drought. Kind of seemed like a pointless article overall.Take the word apples out and you could be talking about busters girlfriend or wife, whatever he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Precip maps? Tim! Also, the Euro has a decent hurricane headed for the Bahamas in week 2.Not again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Probably overdone... but still looks wet. And really wet up there as expected. Yet somehow there is not a single rainy day for the Seattle area on this run. Most of the precip in this area comes on Thursday night and Saturday night. Good regional soaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com/tornado/OregonWashington County donut hole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Good regional soaking.That's what she said. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Take the word apples out and you could be talking about busters girlfriend or wife, whatever he has.I think a daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 It also said that it was only for cider apples specifically. Not the regular apples you find in the produce section, which did well with the more average weather this summer. Then they mentioned that the changes to the cider apples wasn’t going to decrease cider production, there might just be different varieties this year. They also said the fungal issues were preferable to the problems caused by heat and drought. Kind of seemed like a pointless article overall. I see they updated the article with the rest of the info you read. Originally they only had the first paragraph when I read and I was thinking this is a terrible article but with all the info it makes it a little better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Eagerly awaiting an end to this drought, now that it's getting close the GFS has scaled back tomorrow's rainfall in typical fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Eagerly awaiting an end to this drought, now that it's getting close the GFS has scaled back tomorrow's rainfall in typical fashion.Sad, still looks like a pretty storm though. Looks like the precipitation for us starts late Thursday or overnight into Friday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Gfs overall just looks cool and wet at times Friday through Tuesday. Shows some warmer nice weather after a pretty solid soaking for the region if it verifies. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Sad, still looks like a pretty storm though. Looks like the precipitation for us starts late Thursday or overnight into Friday Who knows, maybe it will overperform with the warmer coastal waters. It's been happening a lot to the south of here, you'd think northern areas would get in on it at some point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Beautiful sunrise this morning out ahead of the frontal system. 54 degrees this morning. Good for the coolest morning this month, and the coolest morning since 8/26. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 First clear morning in awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 51°F or so, this morning was foggy but it just cleared out. HIO bottomed at 49. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Moisture from the remnants of two typhoons could make things interesting this weekend for the PNW. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Currently 58 and mostly cloudy. The sky looks a little turbulent this morning. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Moisture from the remnants of two typhoons could make things interesting this weekend for the PNW. Maybe up in SW BC. Just looks like a pretty standard early fall front coming through here on Saturday night. Saturday looks dry and the main rain band moves out on Sunday morning. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 A blob-defying 49 degrees here this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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