November 2023 Weather in the PNW

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Deweydog said:

 

Gorgeous SNAP

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Deweydog said:

 

Nic Kristoff just posted a sunrise pic. Instant Pulitzer. 

[MossMan]

I still call it fake cold since snow is not a possibility with it. I still enjoy it…However I enjoy it even more after a snow event since it preserves the snow on the ground for way longer. 
Currently 45 degrees. 

[ShawniganLake]

7 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I still call it fake cold since snow is not a possibility with it. I still enjoy it…However I enjoy it even more after a snow event since it preserves the snow on the ground for way longer. 
Currently 45 degrees. 

It seems it occasionally can lead to snow down south when the inversion gets deep enough near the gorge

[MossMan]

3 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

It seems it occasionally can lead to snow down south when the inversion gets deep enough near the gorge

Think we had some fake cold snow in Moses Lake as well that lead to some light snow when my mom still lived there. Not much of a chance here at my place however. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Starting to remind me of the year the 534 thickness line never made it to Eugene. 

[Phishy Wx]

15 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Think we had some fake cold snow in Moses Lake as well that lead to some light snow when my mom still lived there. Not much of a chance here at my place however. 

we get flurries and/or light snow over here out of fog/inversions on occasion

[Timmy]

14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Starting to remind me of the year the 534 thickness line never made it to Eugene. 

By November 21?

looks pretty close in less than 3 days 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Timmy

[ShawniganLake]

2 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

 

We lived in CA during the 1997-98 Nino... also a slow start that really ramped up later.   

Doesn’t feel like the worst analog. 

 

The first half of January was quite cold that winter.  There was a decent Fraser River outflow with snow just before mid month.  
 

 

[ShawniganLake]

17 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Starting to remind me of the year the 534 thickness line never made it to Eugene. 

Not feeling the 72 analog anymore?  

[TacomaWx]

It was another good sunrise. No freeze this morning though low of 34. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, ShawniganLake said:

Not feeling the 72 analog anymore?  

Nah

[Phishy Wx]

was 33-34 a Nino?  (or do we even know?)

[iFred]

8 hours ago, Meatyorologist said:

"Fake cold" haha my brother in Christ, inversions are a real weather phenomenon. In fact they are the most primitive and common weather phenomenon we end up experiencing during the winter.

This post is problematic for so many reasons.

[ShawniganLake]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

was 33-34 a Nino?  (or do we even know?)

Nina. I think. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Phishy Wx said:

was 33-34 a Nino?  (or do we even know?)

Nina actually. 

[Phishy Wx]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Nina actually. 

oh wow.  it was pretty much the year with no winter over here

[Cascadia_Wx]

1 hour ago, Front Ranger said:

It's not a common phenomenon most other places. Most of the country only gets cold when the upper levels are also cold.

Maybe true for where most of the country’s population is located. It’s a western phenomenon, as it is largely driven by terrain. 

[Phishy Wx]

30, Mostly Cloudy

[SilverFallsAndrew]

OHHHHH YEAHHHHHH

[RentonHill]

6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

OHHHHH YEAHHHHHH

High Foothill Man rejoices for High Foothill Snow

[Winterdog]

I took a pic of the sunrise this morning but it pales compared to those already posted so I’ll spare you.  I had a 31.9 low that brings my freezing streak to 9 and is my 15th for the season. Currently 34 with scattered high clouds

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Don't hate the GEM either!

[Phil]

3 hours ago, Front Ranger said:

It's not a common phenomenon most other places. Most of the country only gets cold when the upper levels are also cold.

Yeah with the exception of CAD events, the boundary layer almost always mixes out here. Clear-air inversions are basically impossible to maintain.

[Phil]

I suspect the return of storm activity (as modeled by the GFS/GEFS) will be focused farther south, into CA/OR more than WA/BC, when push comes to shove. The deposition and transport of momentum is now beginning to resemble that of the clean/canonical El Niño composite.

[Phishy Wx]

10 minutes ago, Phil said:

Yeah with the exception of CAD events, the boundary layer almost always mixes out here. Clear-air inversions are basically impossible to maintain.

the 'ol Wedge.

leads to some nasty Ice events in the Carolina Piedmont areas

[Phil]

1 minute ago, Phishy Wx said:

the 'ol Wedge.

leads to some nasty Ice events in the Carolina Piedmont areas

It’s actually been awhile since we’ve had one of those.

Without a doubt the 1990s were the king of CAD. During the 1994 ice storm we had a period of ZR with temps in the mid-teens. My parents took a video of themselves in the street which was covered in 3/4” of rock solid ice. Each drop froze instantaneously.

[Phishy Wx]

4 minutes ago, Phil said:

It’s actually been awhile since we’ve had one of those.

Without a doubt the 1990s were the king of CAD. During the 1994 ice storm we had a period of ZR with temps in the mid-teens. My parents took a video of themselves in the street which was covered in 3/4” of rock solid ice. Each drop froze instantaneously.

had a good one (or bad for that matter) in early '04 (may have been late '03) I think it was, in Columbia, SC.  1/2"-3/4" of ice as well, freaking car doors all froze over, car was encased and literally froze to the driveway pavement

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Definitely some ensemble improvement. 

[Phishy Wx]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Definitely some ensemble improvement. 

Maybe a nice Ice Storm?

[TacomaWx]

7 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

Maybe a nice Ice Storm?

We ain’t due for another 10 years on this side of the mountains. 

[TT-SEA]

54 and quite sunny here... also quite breezy.

[Phishy Wx]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

54 and quite sunny here... also quite breezy.

nice spring day out, daffodils should be popping by next week

[Doinko]

8 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

We ain’t due for another 10 years on this side of the mountains. 

Our area got lucky the last couple times. Dec 2022 wasn't that heavy and most of the precip was sleet, and during the huge Feb 2021 storm where areas a bit to the south got 1.75"+ of ice, we were on the border and had 4-5" of snow with some sleet and ice

[RentonHill]

GEFS 5 day precip anomaly…suggests a rebound eventually, for coastal areas at least

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, RentonHill said:

GEFS 5 day precip anomaly…suggests a rebound eventually, for coastal areas at least

Could be the blessing we need to get some of the higher elevation ski resorts going. This could be a tough year for them. 

[Timmy]

34 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Definitely some ensemble improvement. 

Could be a couple years before the 540 line makes it south of Seattle still.

[Phishy Wx]

3 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

GEFS 5 day precip anomaly…suggests a rebound eventually, for coastal areas at least

i'm fully expecting the best storm of winter to happen while I'm in CA for work the week of 12/4

[TacomaWx]

11 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Our area got lucky the last couple times. Dec 2022 wasn't that heavy and most of the precip was sleet, and during the huge Feb 2021 storm where areas a bit to the south got 1.75"+ of ice, we were on the border and had 4-5" of snow with some sleet and ice

Definitely a lot less common up here in Puget sound. The ice storm last December really didn’t end up being that bad. It was enough accumulation to wreak havoc on the roads but the tree damage wasn’t anything like January 2012. 

[the_convergence_zone]

2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Definitely a lot less common up here in Puget sound. The ice storm last December really didn’t end up being that bad. It was enough accumulation to wreak havoc on the roads but the tree damage wasn’t anything like January 2012. 

Timing was a huge piece of luck as well. If the ice had started accumulating in the middle of the day it would have been total chaos on the roads. Instead, people stepped outside in the morning and saw the ice and mostly turned around and went back inside. I couldn't even get from my door to my car if I had wanted to.