MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Love it... how long is the drive?about 6 hrs, its a nice drive and it gets faster and faster. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Here is my view off my deck and the little cabin. Talked to a guy who has lived up there for 25 years and the coldest he has seen it there is - 42 and the deepest snow about 6 feet. Nice area. I can tell by the tree types it's reasonably wet there compared to much of Eastern WA. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 One more round left? And then we spend the next 11 months analyzing the next exciting winter! All we can do is take what we can get. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I personally think 1938 through 1945 was the most horrible period on record here for lame winters. Jan 1943 was a notable exception but other than that....horrible. January 1943 really stuck out in that era. One of the best 10 day stretches we've seen in the western lowlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Here is my view off my deck and the little cabin. Talked to a guy who has lived up there for 25 years and the coldest he has seen it there is - 42 and the deepest snow about 6 feet. That's the coldest area of WA state. You picked a good spot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 That's the coldest area of WA state. You picked a good spot!yeahit's close to the winthrop area for cold. Not as snowy but far less people and not a tourist destination like winthrop and Mazama. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 That's the coldest area of WA state. You picked a good spot! Indeed. I think the only place colder is around Mazama. Amazingly that part of the state is colder (at least for January average) than most places east of the Rockies save the far north. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Down to 30 now and I still have about an inch of snow in the shaded part of my yard. All in all I give this event pretty solid marks because it delivered snow that was followed by multiple clear and cold days afterward. I'm hoping this was only the appetizer though..... Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Down to 30 now and I still have about an inch of snow in the shaded part of my yard. All in all I give this event pretty solid marks because it delivered snow that was followed by multiple clear and cold days afterward. I'm hoping this was only the appetizer though..... It better be an appetizer... because if an inch of snow in the shade and highs in the 30s is your definition of a good winter than your standards are painfully low for a man who calls himself 'snow wizard'! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 It better be an appetizer... because if an inch of snow in the shade and highs in the 30s is your definition of a good winter than your standards are painfully low for a man who calls himself 'snow wizard'! There was more than inch to begin with, but yeah.... I was so frikken starved to see snow followed by clear and cold weather though. It just doesn't get any better than that. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 This is definitely interesting tonight. SEA still has brisk north winds blowing, but it's down to 34. This is in spite of strong easterly gradients tonight. It's like the weather under the inversion is completely ignoring the big picture. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 There was more than inch to begin with, but yeah.... I was so frikken starved to see snow followed by clear and cold weather though. It just doesn't get any better than that. My wife was just saying that this morning... the kids have been able to play for 4 days now in great snow with no rain or melting. And they are not even wet when they come in from playing since its so dry. That is why I personally ignore quick transition events. I don't care about the stats at all... just tangible enjoyment and this has been a perfect event here. Even the trees are still holding the snow. 2014-15 is off to a great start with lots of blocking, sunshine, and cold. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 My wife was just saying that this morning... the kids have been able to play for 4 days now in great snow with no rain or melting. And they are not even wet when they come in from playing since its so dry. That is why I personally ignore quick transition events. I don't care about the stats at all... just tangible enjoyment and this has been a perfect event here. Even the trees are still holding the snow. We are in agreement. After all is said and done we want the same thing. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'm very impressed to see a lot of places north of Seattle are already in the low 20s again tonight. The cold really has a good grip up there. Looking like we might keep this going one more day. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I just had to comment on Jesse's -PNA in late Feb post. Given the ENSO state it's pretty unlikely. The front half of the winter should be where it's at this time. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I just had to comment on Jesse's -PNA in late Feb post. Given the ENSO state it's pretty unlikely. The front half of the winter should be where it's at this time.That post was more of a commentary on Phil's pushing back the timeline for us. 6 weeks from now January will be half over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 The ECMWF is unreal late next week. Pretty much no cold anywhere in the US, Canada, or Alaska. There will be a flip side to that at some point. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 40/23 today here. It appears the highs are sticking with the general trend of increasing about 3 degrees per day. It has been beautiful the last couple days, but it definitely would have been more fun if there had been even a trace of snow. I guess I can hope for next time. Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 It's more simple than you think. If the cold air is deeper than the Cascades, the cold air flows over and you can get downslope winds. If it's deep enough just to flow over the passes etc you get gap winds. If you have an inversion on the westside that is shallower than the passes, the east wind/outflow can flow right over the top. It can't be too strong of outflow though or it will mix out very quickly. There has been many times here when I see east winds 25-30 mph, and I know up at CP they are weaker than it would be because it's not being forced just through the gorge.I always know when Crown Point is being blasted. When there is a strong easterly gradient but it's calm here they have insane winds. It seems to have something to do with inversions. Could someone explain the mechanics of how an inversion has the power to stop outflow winds here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Indeed. I think the only place colder is around Mazama. Amazingly that part of the state is colder (at least for January average) than most places east of the Rockies save the far north.I always considered Republic to be the coldest town in WA. I could be wrong about that however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 The ECMWF is unreal late next week. Pretty much no cold anywhere in the US, Canada, or Alaska. There will be a flip side to that at some point. Yes... the middle of the country is definitely due for some very cold weather. I am actually sure it will flip later in the month... but what if a warm December is offsetting the insanely cold November? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 40 degrees here this morning with an east wind... dewpoint is 15. And yet the snow in my yard remains just fine... frozen hard actually. Dewpoint is such a huge factor in snowmelt. If the dewpoint was 33 with this wind then all the snow would have vanished overnight. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Looks like most valley temps bumped up a couple degrees overnight. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 It would be nice to see the long range 06z verify. #mountainsnows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman5678 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Warmer here this morning with a low of 25. Currently 26 with a dp of 25. Looks like the melting begins today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Warmer here this morning with a low of 25. Currently 26 with a dp of 25. Looks like the melting begins today. Not sure about that... its 40 degrees here and nothing is melting yet. Tomorrow its gone with rain moving in later in the day and dewpoint shooting up. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Up to 33 here this morning. Stayed dry too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 It would be nice to see the long range 06z verify. #mountainsnows Yes it would. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Honestly I would be perfectly fine with the next month being a shitshow. I love me some cold anomalies, but with my twins arriving any day now, there is no way I'd even be able to pay attention to a significant weather event if it happened in December. I'm not allowed to post on weather forums from the hospital this time... 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Honestly I would be perfectly fine with the next month being a shitshow. I love me some cold anomalies, but with my twins arriving any day now, there is no way I'd even be able to pay attention to a significant weather event if it happened in December. I'm not allowed to post on weather forums from the hospital this time...Well... its all about what you want so we will adjust our expectations! Exciting times though... hope it all goes well. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 That post was more of a commentary on Phil's pushing back the timeline for us. 6 weeks from now January will be half over.No changes...early/mid January was always the target..if the SSW is delayed a week or two, the January blast(s) will be as well. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Well... its all about what you want so we will adjust our expectations! Exciting times though... hope it all goes well.Thanks! They are 34 weeks now. Hope they can keep baking another 2 to 3 weeks. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Snakes Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Honestly I would be perfectly fine with the next month being a shitshow. I love me some cold anomalies, but with my twins arriving any day now, there is no way I'd even be able to pay attention to a significant weather event if it happened in December. I'm not allowed to post on weather forums from the hospital this time... I see we are in the same(ish) boat. As much as I would love some more snow, our second son in due Jan 5, and I would rather have clear roads until he is home! What little snow we had in Tacoma is on its way out. Really do love a bit of snow and clear sunny days afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 What an ugly son of a b*tch..can't wait until this bugger self destructs: http://catchmypicture.com/f/ksGbyq/800.jpg Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Thanks! They are 34 weeks now. Hope they can keep baking another 2 to 3 weeks.My wife made it to 36 weeks with bed rest. They were tiny... 5 pounds. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 It appears we are going to be dealing with a Pineapple Express around the 10-12th of this month. What has followed 10 days to 3 weeks following a pineapple express in past history? QUE SNOW WIZARD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Winterdog Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Barely made it but my low of 19.7F gives me the 10th minimum in the teens this fall. Sitting at 21F now and expecting a high near 40 today. Photo taken at 9am today. It was a good run! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Barely made it but my low of 19.7F gives me the 10th minimum in the teens this fall. Sitting at 21F now and expecting a high near 40 today. Photo taken at 9am today. It was a good run!12-03-14 003.JPG Looks like a really nice area! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Barely made it but my low of 19.7F gives me the 10th minimum in the teens this fall. Sitting at 21F now and expecting a high near 40 today. Photo taken at 9am today. It was a good run!12-03-14 003.JPGGorgeous pic, dude. That's postcard material right there.. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Barely made it but my low of 19.7F gives me the 10th minimum in the teens this fall. Sitting at 21F now and expecting a high near 40 today. Photo taken at 9am today. It was a good run!12-03-14 003.JPG Do you get much C-Zone action at that location? Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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