Guest Winterdog Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Down to 27F so if the clouds (grrr) don't mess things up it should be my 10th low in the teens this fall. Also with 3 sub-freezing highs and 3" of snow, this autumn is a rare bird indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 A pretty unusual inversion situation right now. Brisk north winds blowing below the inversion layer in many places. The temp fell like a rock this evening here in spite of the breeze still coming up at times. This also appears to be killing the down sloping east winds I was worried about for tonight. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Down to 27F so if the clouds (grrr) don't mess things up it should be my 10th low in the teens this fall. Also with 3 sub-freezing highs and 3" of snow, this autumn is a rare bird indeed.Had my 5th sub-freezing high this season so far today and I've also seen 5" of snow thus far. Not bad for only December 2nd, especially considering the imminent blockbuster January on the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I hadn't thought about it until today, but the last few weeks have been similar to 1994. That year we also had a cold snap in mid-November (37/30 at PDX with 0.3" of snow) and again in early December, when PDX pulled off 36/24 along with a 1" to 1.5" snowfall around town on December 5th. That was also a Nino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I hadn't thought about it until today, but the last few weeks have been similar to 1994. That year we also had a cold snap in mid-November (37/30 at PDX with 0.3" of snow) and again in early December, when PDX pulled off 36/24 along with a 1" to 1.5" snowfall around town on December 5th. That was also a Nino. Warm summer and record warm September (tied with this year at PDX) in 1994 too. January 1995 wasn't too exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Warm summer and record warm September (tied with this year at PDX) in 1994 too. January 1995 wasn't too exciting. But February rocked my 12 year old world! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abbotsford_wx Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Agassiz has one of the best snowfall records for southern BC. Notes: 1928 was left out, as no snowfall data was recorded that year. Dec 2000 and March 2001 were missing snowfall, so I subbed in Abbotsford data for those months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bham_Guy Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I hadn't thought about it until today, but the last few weeks have been similar to 1994. That year we also had a cold snap in mid-November (37/30 at PDX with 0.3" of snow) and again in early December, when PDX pulled off 36/24 along with a 1" to 1.5" snowfall around town on December 5th. That was also a Nino. I was wondering if there was any relation to 1994. The Portland area might do well later in the winter snow-wise, with Bellingham remaining fairly dry, assuming we see another decent cold snap or two. Hopefully we'll all see a little snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Good stuff, Abbotsford_wx. Confirms a couple things. The long term trend is for less snowfall, and the 1940's sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I was wondering if there was any relation to 1994. The Portland area might do well later in the winter snow-wise, with Bellingham remaining fairly dry, assuming we see another decent cold snap or two. Hopefully we'll all see a little snow. Portland also had a near miss in early January 1995. We did get some wet snowfall and highs in the 30's, but I remember forecasts being a lot more dreamy. It was a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman5678 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Live pic... snow survives another day. Snow survived another day here too, High of 35 after a low of 19. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman5678 Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Don't you have school? Yeah I did but I had free block first so I didn't have to be at school until 9:00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 A pretty unusual inversion situation right now. Brisk north winds blowing below the inversion layer in many places. The temp fell like a rock this evening here in spite of the breeze still coming up at times. This also appears to be killing the down sloping east winds I was worried about for tonight. You were worried about that? As long as you are worrying about a couple degrees here or there in the middle of the night... might want to look at the IR satellite and that massive shield of high clouds moving in! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 You were worried about that? As long as you are worrying about a couple degrees here or there in the middle of the night... might want to look at the IR satellite and that massive shield of high clouds moving in!Sounds on par with a marine push nightmare. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Sounds on par with a marine push nightmare.You need to be on a boat in a strong push! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 You need to be on a boat in a strong push!Tim, you have no idea... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 You need to be on a boat in a strong push!R.I.P. to all the victims of the July 2010 marine layers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Little downslope tonight. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 You were worried about that? As long as you are worrying about a couple degrees here or there in the middle of the night... might want to look at the IR satellite and that massive shield of high clouds moving in!Your crush on Jim is so cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I wonder if any precip will rotate up our way tonight. It's 29 currently so it would certainly be something frozen or freezing if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 R.I.P. to all the victims of the July 2010 marine layers. http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2009/06/aftermath.html . Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2009/06/aftermath.html . Where was FEMA!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Where was FEMA!!?I know... right? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Little downslope tonight.Indeed... 36 here with a dp of 18. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I know... right? And actually that event Cliff is erroneously referring to as a marine push was in fact a strong outflow boundary from the decaying severe thunderstorm complex over NW OR. June 4, 2009. Big time, baby. Remember it well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Currently 26 degrees, feels like a heat wave! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 And actually that event Cliff is erroneously referring to as a marine push was in fact a strong outflow boundary from the decaying severe thunderstorm complex over NW OR. June 4, 2009. Big time, baby. Remember it well. It was a combo. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 19 for a low in Battle Ground. Then dense fog quickly formed. It was thick for much of the morning, then it burned off and more clouds rolled in. Forecast high was around 42-44, ended up at 38. No east wind here until this evening, and it's just a drift. Meanwhile at Crown Point, gusts at 90 mph on the sensor. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?sid=D6193&table=1&banner=offWas 19 when I left my house about 45min ago. I wish we would stay cold and dry all week, most all of my snow is still preserved right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Winterdog Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 MossMan, on 02 Dec 2014 - 9:10 PM, said:Currently 26 degrees, feels like a heat wave!What was your high temp today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 It was a combo. Calling it a marine push is definitely selling it short. Even for the Seattle area, the atmosphere was highly charged that day and it was a convection influenced event. Maybe a once in a decade type thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I love this kind of stuff! I have excel sheets/graphs back to December 1996 for my Vancouver station. 4th year of my Battle Ground station on December 10th...Not sure if anyone is interested but I like data and I like graph's so here is my November weather data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 So I went to my property in eastern wa for the thanksgiving weekend. Property is 25 miles nw of republic about 8 miles south of the Canadian border. At 2:30 friday afternoon it was raining and 43. 24 hrs later it was clear and windy after a little snow and 2 degrees! We had a low of 14 below. Whole different world working in those temps. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 19 for a low in Battle Ground. Then dense fog quickly formed. It was thick for much of the morning, then it burned off and more clouds rolled in. Forecast high was around 42-44, ended up at 38. No east wind here until this evening, and it's just a drift. Meanwhile at Crown Point, gusts at 90 mph on the sensor. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?sid=D6193&table=1&banner=off I always know when Crown Point is being blasted. When there is a strong easterly gradient but it's calm here they have insane winds. It seems to have something to do with inversions. Could someone explain the mechanics of how an inversion has the power to stop outflow winds here? Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 So I went to my property in eastern wa for the thanksgiving weekend. Property is 25 miles nw of republic about 8 miles south of the Canadian border. At 2:30 friday afternoon it was raining and 43. 24 hrs later it was clear and windy after a little snow and 2 degrees! We had a low of 14 below. Whole different world working in those temps. -14 is pretty impressive for this early in the season. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Good stuff, Abbotsford_wx. Confirms a couple things. The long term trend is for less snowfall, and the 1940's sucked. I personally think 1938 through 1945 was the most horrible period on record here for lame winters. Jan 1943 was a notable exception but other than that....horrible. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Very surprisingly the GFS shows a minus PNA returning later in week two. Regardless I think we get one more round this winter and it will be the biggy. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 No -PNA for 5-6 weeks Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Here is my view off my deck and the little cabin. Talked to a guy who has lived up there for 25 years and the coldest he has seen it there is - 42 and the deepest snow about 6 feet. 4 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Very surprisingly the GFS shows a minus PNA returning later in week two. Regardless I think we get one more round this winter and it will be the biggy.One more round left? And then we spend the next 11 months analyzing the next exciting winter! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Here is my view off my deck and the little cabin. Talked to a guy who has lived up there for 25 years and the coldest he has seen it there is - 42 and the deepest snow about 6 feet.Love it... how long is the drive? Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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