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[Model Countdown]

00z GFS 1 hour 10 minutes

00z GEM(CMC) 2 hours 30 minutes

00z ECMWF 3 hours 40 minutes

 

Hard to ignore the EURO's consistency with this cold shot. Ensembles look real good too. Pattern change begins upstream in 4-5 days. Done deal

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Do my eyes deceive me or is December about to arrive?

 

Been lurking in the models off and on for a while--and since there was nothing worth talking about, I continued to lurk.

 

Unfortunately, due to the sun angle, most of us may receive nothing more than cold rain--although overnight, we may get lucky.  But at least there's hope this ridging will end soon.

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00z is running!!!!!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Looks like the 00z is coming in a little chillier for the weekend. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Looks like the 00z is coming in a little chillier for the weekend. 

Out to hour 135 it looks chillier and further West with the cold next week too.

Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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Going nowhere.

It's still way better than the last several GFS runs.

 

18z:

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/20150224/18/gfs_namer_159_1000_500_thick_s.gif

00z:

 

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/20150225/00/gfs_namer_153_1000_500_thick_s.gif

Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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It's still way better than the last several GFS runs.

 

18z:

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/20150224/18/gfs_namer_159_1000_500_thick_s.gif

00z:

 

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/data/gfs/20150225/00/gfs_namer_153_1000_500_thick_s.gif

Don't think it matters either way. This will be a non-event.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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More Cascade snow!

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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More Cascade snow!

 

A little.

 

This pattern is just not what we need.   We need raging cold onshore flow.   

 

Not systems from north starved for moisture.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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A little.

 

This pattern is just not what we need.   We need raging cold onshore flow.   

 

Not systems from north starved for moisture.

 

Improvement is improvement.

 

Hard to say how it will all shake out at this point, but the models look a hell of a lot more promising than they have for awhile. Even if all it means is mountain snow and cool anomalies for the lowlands!

 

A spring 1992 redux looking a bit less likely.

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Canadian says ******* game on!

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2015022500/gem_T850_us_31.png

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Canadian says ******* game on!

 

This is not really game on... and its actually bad because its so dry.    That does not help the mountains.   Sunny with highs in the 40s is not really exciting.

 

http://img.meteocentre.com/models/gemglb_amer_00/GZ_D5_PN_180_0000.gif

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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It's definitely cold, but not as far west as the 12z. At face value, would still deliver a little lowland snow.

lowland slop would be a better description. *yawn*. We really need to get in pattern for mountain snow. At this point I am sure it will be cool fairly dry event at best.
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This is not really game on... and its actually bad because its so dry.    That does not help the mountains.   Sunny with highs in the 40s is not really exciting.

 

http://img.meteocentre.com/models/gemglb_amer_00/GZ_D5_PN_180_0000.gif

 

OMG. It's something with potential that's interesting to track.

 

And any particular reason you are showing hour 180 instead of say hour 156?

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This is not really game on... and its actually bad because its so dry.    That does not help the mountains.   Sunny with highs in the 40s is not really exciting.

 

http://img.meteocentre.com/models/gemglb_amer_00/GZ_D5_PN_180_0000.gif

 

 

At least it is a step in the right direction. But yes I generally agree with you. Highs in the mid 40s and sunshine and some cold weather is boring. Still better than the GFS.

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OMG. It's something with potential that's interesting to track.

 

And any particular reason you are showing hour 180 instead of say hour 156?

we always have something to track somewhere. Tracking a marginal, Coolish, fairly dry event that will most likely not deliver is not all that exciting for some so get over it... Why are you so concerned about our weather here and what people think? We need something meaningful like mountain snow.
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OMG. It's something with potential that's interesting to track.

 

And any particular reason you are showing hour 180 instead of say hour 156?

 

 

Andrew showed 180 hours.   Just showing the corresponding 500mb pattern.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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With the mountains lacking snowpack, a pattern supporting mountain snow would sure be nice. Has this been considered?

 

 

Obviously not!

 

Seems like 48 degree sunshine with NE flow is where the true excitement lies.   

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we always have something to track somewhere. Tracking a marginal, Coolish, fairly dry event that will most likely not deliver is not all that exciting for some so get over it... Why are you so concerned about our weather here and what people think? We need something meaningful like mountain snow.

 

So you see no difference between tracking the upcoming pattern and the patterns available to track since late December? None at all?

 

Why does it bother you that I care about and track the weather in the PNW? Good lord...people are free to think what they want and care about what they want. 

 

If all you want is mountain snowfall, great! But your endless, regurgitated wet blanket remarks get old. Why do you care if other people are actually interested in this pattern? Why do you always feel the need to downplay others interest?

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