Siggy44 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Lezak says he is expecting a system the first week in Jan. to hit KC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Whats the Euro verdict? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Whats the Euro verdict? I heard he's presently out to lunch Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 I heard he's presently out to lunchOP euro is in lala land this time around. ENS control is still holding its consistency from the past 4 runs but with more spread among members this round as evident in the means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 OP euro is in lala land this time around. ENS control is still holding its consistency from the past 4 runs but with more spread among members this round as evident in the means.So what you're saying is the snowblower might remain in the garage again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 So what you're saying is the snowblower might remain in the garage again?Maybe for you folks up there. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Put a fork in er. Epic winter fail. Oh well. Mid Jan and scratching to get ground cover is hardly historic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 OP euro is in lala land this time around. ENS control is still holding its consistency from the past 4 runs but with more spread among members this round as evident in the means.I keep thinking you're talking about the sub forum then I realize you're talking about your area lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Looking out further (a week), 12z Euro 500mb looks nice for a true pan-handle to OHV track, if we can just trend towards something amplifying in that time-frame. So far, there's puzzle pieces, but nobody putting them in place yet..  Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 I keep thinking you're talking about the sub forum then I realize you're talking about your area lolYeah. I'm sorry. I'll elaborate a little better from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 18z GFS liking TX Panhandle and our lone buddy OK late next week... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 This pattern we are in really really sucks. Not much happening the next 10 days as well as not much happened this week. Boring for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 18z GFS liking TX Panhandle and our lone buddy OK late next week... Solid. http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2016122918/210/snku_acc.conus.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 lol at that screw hole over Iowa. Would be funny in a bad way if it panned out. Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8")Â (1/1: 6.4") Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 18z GFS liking TX Panhandle and our lone buddy OK late next week...Lol. Yeah. I don't really trust the 18z too much though. Pretty sweet to look at though and if that thing can pause for awhile in the TX panhandle and deepen more, that's a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Solid. http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2016122918/210/snku_acc.conus.pngAll we need now is for that dang SE ridge work some magic after it dumps snow in TX/OK and track NE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Lol. Yeah. I don't really trust the 18z too much though. Pretty sweet to look at though and if that thing can pause for awhile in the TX panhandle and deepen more, that's a possibility.12 Euro's track was a bit more NW once it got east of you, right? Did it even have any snow in the OV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 lol at that screw hole over Iowa. Would be funny in a bad way if it panned out.Don't forget Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 MPX favoring the Euro and GEFS mean solutions for now, with all options on the table ranging from a dusting to well over 12". Alrighty then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 29, 2016 Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Tom, this is the EPS control. If I had to guess right now from this far out, my honest prediction for my exact location would be somewhere between 2.5 and 4 inches. This is just based off patterning and past qpf during similar events. Not necessarily based on modeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 The EC might be looking at something big around the 7th -9th timeframe.  http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2016122912/gem_asnow_neus_38.png Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 I'd say, almost a years total here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 The EC might be looking at something big around the 7th -9th timeframe. Â http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2016122912/gem_asnow_neus_38.pngA lot of that's from today's storm though. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)Â Â Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)Â Â Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9Â Dec: 7.5Â Jan: 31.7 Feb:Â 6.0 Mar: 4.3Â Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2"Â (Harrison):Â 2023-24 = 53.1"Â Avg = 45.0"Â (KDTW):Â 2022-23 = 33.5"Â Â 2021-22 = 35.6"Â Â Â Â Avg = 49.7"Â (KRMY):Â 2020-21 = 36.2"Â Â 2019-20 = 48.0"Â Â 2018-19 =Â 56.1"Â Â 2017-18 =Â 68.3"Â Â Â 2016-17 =Â 52"Â Â Â 2015-16 =Â 57.4"Â Â Â 2014-15 =Â 55.3"Â Â Â 2013-14 =Â 100.6"Â (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)Â Â 2012-13 =Â 47.2"Â Â Â 2011-12 =Â 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Let's see if the gfs has any good news tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Let's see if the gfs has any good news tonight.Doesn't look like it so far. Garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Doesn't look like it so far. Garbage.GGEM looks good for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 00z gfs with the ring of snowlessness in the nation's midsection. Craptastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Nice! Getting closer to spring at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 GGEM looks good for youPivotal and TT both are stuck at hr 78. I hope the Euro still shows something on the 0z. The GGEM going solo is tough to get excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Whew. I guess its midwest turn to take a long break. Hope OK and folks down south get something finally. And prolly Dakotas and MN cash grab again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Can't make a run like this up. 384 hours and notta for most. Gfs has been on this year so not doubting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Canadian is no better. Donuts anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Can't make a run like this up. 384 hours and notta for most. Gfs has been on this year so not doubting it.IMG_0853.GIF  Canadian is no better. Donuts anyone?IMG_0854.PNGYou know, this winter has been such a crap shoot anyway lets go for the record least snowiest ever!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 I like it. Going to sit there and spin. I doubt it comes out of there as a sheared out POS though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 GFS trending towards the Euro, but now thermals are a concern here. Nothing is easy in the winter of 2016-2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 For those excited about the coming cold wave, here's Cohen's recent write-up outlining the real science behind "it's gonna get cold, real cold": https://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation  Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)  Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"  2021-22 = 35.6"    Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"  2019-20 = 48.0"  2018-19 = 56.1"  2017-18 = 68.3"   2016-17 = 52"   2015-16 = 57.4"   2014-15 = 55.3"   2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"   2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Our only hope for measureable snow in this pattern will be if a clipper or two can find it's way into our area....let's hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Hard for snow plow operators to make any money in a winter like this. I know several guys who have sold their equipment in the last few years and got second jobs since snow has become more rare. I know some on this board rely on snow removal for income. What a horrible winter so far for some of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Well, what do ya know...Dakotas with another major snow storm??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Well, what do ya know...Dakotas with another major snow storm???Tom you are supposed to bring us hope. Ha. I guess it is just one of those years. Can hope for something later on, but those don't tend to keep a snow cover for any great length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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