PNW February 2023 Weather Discussion - Meteorological winter finale

[BLI snowman]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I was reading about the show a couple weeks ago and for some reason this really bothered me.   I wanted it to be totally genuine and in the U.P. 

https://shorewoodripples.com/2673/features/joe-pera-talks-with-us-about-milwaukee/#:~:text=Set in Marquette%2C Michigan%2C the,Joe Pera Talks with You.

The show becomes even more endearing when you learn that it’s mostly filmed in the Milwaukee area. The diner in that breakfast episode is actually Copper Kitchen on Howell Ave, and the restaurant that Joe goes to with his nana for their weekly Friday fish fry is in reality Alioto’s in Wauwatosa. 

 

Ugh!!!!  

Reminds me of how they always use YVR now and pretend that it's Seattle or Washington. Like, they're not even in the same country you mean Hollywood dummies!

[Deweydog]

CNN is on board!  Top story!

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/01/us/washington-hinman-glacier-disappear-climate/index.html

[Deweydog]

1 minute ago, Terreboner2 said:

Just seeing that you said boner gives me a busted hymen.  Something about the way you speak.  It's almost as if we both were they/them in another life.  It's kind of magical.

The 00z is running.

[ShawniganLake]

33F here. 39/33 on the day. Snow cover survived the afternoon sun breaks. 
 

Friday looks a bit breezy up north. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

FWIW it appears the 00z GFS drops a pretty chilly trough on us the middle of next week. 

A nice 49/23 day at SLE. Back down to freezing already. 

SLE put up a +0.2F departure for January. Last year was 0.1, so warmer than last year. Though they managed to keep their average high below 50, 48.9 to be exact. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

This would be some crisp weather. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

26/6 today in Burns, OR after a 25/-1 yesterday. Wonder what it was in Winthrop? 

[RentonHill]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

26/6 today in Burns, OR after a 25/-1 yesterday. Wonder what it was in Winthrop? 

23/14 at our place. 24/9 in the valley. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 hour ago, BLI snowman said:

For claiming to be such a renegade badass you sure seem to have mighty thin skin.

As do most self-professed tough guys, in my experience.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Burns ran a -4.0 Departure for January with a 33.4/11.6 spread. 

Not even close to their 23.3/-0.9 average in January 2017 or 29.1/3.3 from January 2013. 

The 4/-22 from 1/6/2017 is a real eye popper. Though not quite as impressive as the 4/-30 they put up on 12/8/2013. 

The 6/-25 they scored on 12/31/2010 stands out though as not many people besides Jesse remember that airmass, it also shows the power of deep snowcover in the Harney Basin, as that event was preceded by a significant snow event. 

[Phishy Wx]

1 hour ago, Terreboner2 said:

Instead of escalating, how about de-escalating?

I think we get a huge storm before this freshly minted month is over.  I was thinking a V-day storm was on the table a week ago but I'm thinking the 20th-28th timeframe is on the table for sure.

Pres Day Blizzard.  book it!

 

People need to put faith in something.  Then look forward to it.

 

I had a New Years resolution to be more confident and faithful (not religiously speaking) just sticking to my guns and seeing it through.

 

Blizzard or no Blizzard there will be a region wide Blizzard around the President's day timeframe. 

 

Looking forward to it and everyone else should too

[BLI snowman]

5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Burns ran a -4.0 Departure for January with a 33.4/11.6 spread. 

Not even close to their 23.3/-0.9 average in January 2017 or 29.1/3.3 from January 2013. 

The 4/-22 from 1/6/2017 is a real eye popper. Though not quite as impressive as the 4/-30 they put up on 12/8/2013. 

The 6/-25 they scored on 12/31/2010 stands out though as not many people besides Jesse remember that airmass, it also shows the power of deep snowcover in the Harney Basin, as that event was preceded by a significant snow event. 

Seneca > Burns

[Cascadia_Wx]

26 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This would be some crisp weather. 

Good to have you back Andrew. The route you took back from Vegas sounds like it was pretty much identical to the route we took to get down there two years ago today.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

5 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Good to have you back Andrew. The route you took back from Vegas sounds like it was pretty much identical to the route we took to get down there two years ago today.

Right on. Some lonely country down that way. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Right on. Some lonely country down that way. 

God’s country  

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Don't hate the 00z GFS. February 2020 VIBES.

Edited February 2, 2023 by SilverFallsAndrew

[Deweydog]

After tonight I’ve never felt stronger about the fact we all need to meet up!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Interestingly January 2017 was only slightly warmer than 1949 at BNO. However, it does appear the old city weather station is in a warmer location than the current airport location. The Harney Branch Experiment station was 5.7F colder than the city station when the two stations operated concurrently in 1949. Looking at the map, the current airport location appears to be closer to the old experiment station as opposed to downtown. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

January 1949 at the Harney Branch station was absolutely bonkers. Warmest max for the month was 33, warmest low was 14. But the cold in January 1937 was next level too. 

1949

https://climate.usu.edu/mapServer/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USC00353659&year=1949&month=1&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0

1937

https://climate.usu.edu/mapServer/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USC00353659&year=1937&month=1&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0

They also scored a -2/-45 in January 1930, but the -11/-45 day in December 1924 takes the cake. 

Edited February 2, 2023 by SilverFallsAndrew

[Gradient Keeper]

2 hours ago, Deweydog said:

Wednesday evening update! At this point at the coast, we were seeing strong westerly winds with dew points in the teens. Unheard of. I also had absolutely no plans at this time of attending law school…

Wow. I don't remember that, but I wasn't into the weather enough back then probably. That's unreal.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Is it just me or was the 00z a huge step in the right direct, but no one cares anymore? 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Wow. I don't remember that, but I wasn't into the weather enough back then probably. That's unreal.

I wasn't even 5 yet and we still lived in California when this happened, but my Dad says people told him about the February 1989 blast when we moved here. I do remember December 1990 pretty well. 

[Gradient Keeper]

00z GFS 500mb Height Anomaly Day 1-10. 10 Day Rainfall, Snowfall totals

[Gradient Keeper]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Is it just me or was the 00z a huge step in the right direct, but no one cares anymore? 

Improvement for sure. It seems I missed a lot earlier on the forum, but that kind of stuff always ruins the atmosphere distracting from weather discussions and model riding.

00z ECMWF in 6 minutes

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Improvement for sure. It seems I missed a lot earlier on the forum, but that kind of stuff always ruins the atmosphere distracting from weather discussions and model riding.

00z ECMWF in 6 minutes

I missed it too. Had a busy day at work trying to catch up on the past week. 

[Gradient Keeper]

We need the King to deliver some late Winter magic.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I may have posted this yesterday, but the eastern side of Steens Mountain is incredible, this was from at least 30-40 miles away. It is just absolutely massive. 

The view of the mountain from the north is not as breathtaking in the summer, but from Crane yesterday, due to the stark relief caused by the snow cover it was jaw dropping, an absolutely massive mountain. 

Edited February 2, 2023 by SilverFallsAndrew

[Gradient Keeper]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I may have posted this yesterday, but the eastern side of Steens Mountain is incredible, this was from at least 30-40 miles away. It is just absolutely massive. 

The view of the mountain from the north is not as breathtaking in the summer, but from Crane yesterday, due to the stark relief caused by the snow cover it was jaw dropping, an absolutely massive mountain. 

I have not yet been fortunate enough to visit the Steens. Looks jaw dropping. Amazing how they just seemingly abruptly rise up from the southeastern Oregon deserts.

[Gradient Keeper]

00z ECMWF Day 1

[Deweydog]

21 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Wow. I don't remember that, but I wasn't into the weather enough back then probably. That's unreal.

Yeah, Astoria had a 29/18 spread with onshore flow at one point that (this) evening.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Yeah, Astoria had a 29/18 spread with onshore flow at one point that (this) evening.

In the mid-valley it seemed like February 1989 was more well remembered than December 1990. I growing up whenever people would talk about February 1989, I would point out that statistically December 1990 was more impressive in terms of duration. But it came in with a massive snow event in the valley and I think that's what point remember. 

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 2

[Gradient Keeper]

4 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Yeah, Astoria had a 29/18 spread with onshore flow at one point that (this) evening.

That's simply astronomical. WOW. What were the 850s, 500mb heights, and thickness?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

The Sheephead Mountains are NE of Steens Mountain, when viewed from the top of Steens they are just a low drab set of hills in the vast desert to the east, but they were pretty cool with the snow cover. Going through the pass there was probably about 2-3' of snow on the ground. The range is so dry it doesn't even support trees. 

This conservationist has identified the potential for a very large designated wilderness area in the range. 

https://www.andykerr.net/odg-sheepshead-mountains

 

[Deweydog]

3 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

That's simply astronomical. WOW. What were the 850s, 500mb heights, and thickness?

I believe thicknesses went sub-510dm around noon on Wednesday and continued to steadily drop from there. I remember distinctly that it cleared out quite a bit that afternoon and the morning snow slushed up a bit. Then not too long before sunset a big graupel-to-snow squall moved through and flash froze everything. The actual Arctic front didn’t move in until around midnight.

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 3

[Gradient Keeper]

4 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

I believe thicknesses went sub-510dm around noon on Wednesday and continued to steadily drop from there. I remember distinctly that it cleared out quite a bit that afternoon and the morning snow slushed up a bit. Then not too long before sunset a big graupel-to-snow squall moved through and flash froze everything. The actual Arctic front didn’t move in until around midnight.

That's one for the books.

[Deweydog]

9 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

In the mid-valley it seemed like February 1989 was more well remembered than December 1990. I growing up whenever people would talk about February 1989, I would point out that statistically December 1990 was more impressive in terms of duration. But it came in with a massive snow event in the valley and I think that's what point remember. 

We had 2-3 inches going into the 1990 event, which was more about duration and the fact it was timed well with Xmas vacation. 1989 was just straight up other worldly.

All in all, between 2/89, 2/90 and 12/90 and 1/93, it was a really great run at the coast. It’s all been downhill since.

[Gradient Keeper]

Day 4

[Gradient Keeper]

Temp: 27.7, Dewpoint: 24.9 with CLEAR skies. Another COLD night!