December 2018 Weather in the Pacific Northwest

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I'm flattered, thank you!

 

But I think Rob is still the wind king. Heck, he knows more about gradients and mixing potential than I do! I think before I can ever be the wind king I need to touch up on my knowledge.

 

He is the gradient keeper.

[Gradient Keeper]

I'm flattered, thank you!

 

But I think Rob is still the wind king. Heck, he knows more about gradients and mixing potential than I do! I think before I can ever be the wind king I need to touch up on my knowledge.

Feel free to take over the throne on this one.

[Requiem]

Feel free to take over the throne on this one.

 

I wouldn't dream of it, your insight is valuable. However, I would love to help out with this little Tuesday storm

[Gradient Keeper]

I wouldn't dream of it, your insight is valuable. However, I would love to help out with this little Tuesday storm

Looks like a PDX-EUG of 5 to 7mb. Wind gusts 35-45mph with some isolated locally to 50mph especially south of PDX. I'm always far more interested in the wind impacts from a storm than any rain. Rain is boring whether it's .25" or 4".

[GHweatherChris]

Wind Schmind, nothing historic wind wise in the models, next.... give us lowlanders some snow potential and then we are talking. I know I speak for the majority on here.

[MossMan]

Just let the dogs out, quite windy with rain. 47. Glad I didn’t bother with any sort of storm clean up today.

[Requiem]

Wind Schmind, nothing historic wind wise in the models, next.... give us lowlanders some snow potential and then we are talking. I know I speak for the majority on here.

 

Then hopefully the wind fans can talk without any unnecessary whining.

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

I wouldn't dream of it, your insight is valuable. However, I would love to help out with this little Tuesday storm

You can learn a lot from reading NWS AFD's.  Not just about a particular storm, but about the process they use for predicting winds (and snow, rain, etc).  It is a lot more than just looking at the colors on a Weatherbell map.  And they have a lot of experience with local climates.  Not that they get it right all the time (wind and snow are very hard to predict), but you learn about soundings, how present conditions affect incoming storms, etc.  

[MossMan]

Wind Schmind, nothing historic wind wise in the models, next.... give us lowlanders some snow potential and then we are talking. I know I speak for the majority on here.

How about both! Snow and a massive north wind as well!

[Requiem]

Looks like a PDX-EUG of 5 to 7mb. Wind gusts 35-45mph with some isolated locally to 50mph especially south of PDX. I'm always far more interested in the wind impacts from a storm than any rain. Rain is boring whether it's .25" or 4".

 

Those gusts look to be what most are predicting. I notice EURO, NAM and FV3 (as well as the earlier GFS) showed gusts 40-50 in the whole valley, with Salem getting 55 gusts courtesy of the EURO. Bottom line- it'll be stormy, windy, and nasty to drive in.

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

Then hopefully the wind fans can talk without any unnecessary whining.

 

No doubt the potential of snow  will get this forum really hopping, but nothing wrong with your interest in winds.  And the forum will pay a lot of attention to potential damaging storms way more than run of the mill storms.  But also be aware that a real big wind storm, though fascinating, can cause a lot of damage and many people here won't be rooting for one, especially if they own homes.  

 

But keep up your interest in winds, nothing wrong with that at all.  That is what this forum is for, people who are interested in the weather.

[Requiem]

How about both! Snow and a massive north wind as well!

 

November 2006! But region-wide.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Wind Schmind, nothing historic wind wise in the models, next.... give us lowlanders some snow potential and then we are talking. I know I speak for the majority on here.

But if you combine wind and snow now we're talking. Nothing like snow and 60mph winds. D**n I'd love to see another december 1990.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

November 2006! But region-wide.

Lol yep!!

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

In my earlier post, meant to say the potential of snow will get the forum hopping, not just storms.  Trying to make the point that potential snow will cause more interest in the forum than anything

[MossMan]

No doubt the potential of snow will get this forum really hopping, but nothing wrong with your interest in winds. And the forum will pay a lot of attention to potential damaging storms way more than run of the mill storms. But also be aware that a real big wind storm, though fascinating, can cause a lot of damage and many people here won't be rooting for one, especially if they own homes.

 

But keep up your interest in winds, nothing wrong with that at all. That is what this forum is for, people who are interested in the weather.

Snow can also create a lot of damage as well...look at the Dec. 1996 for Puget Sound!

[Gradient Keeper]

How about a strong arctic front blasting south resulting in YWL-BLI of +22mb, BLI-PDX of +15mb, YKA-OMK +17mb(+Positive = northerly gradients) and OTH-GEG -23mb, PDX-DLS -14mb(-Negative = Easterly gradients)

[Requiem]

How about a strong arctic front blasting south resulting in YWL-BLI of +22mb, BLI-PDX of +15mb, YKA-OMK +17mb(+Positive = northerly gradients) and OTH-GEG -23mb, PDX-DLS -14mb(-Negative = Easterly gradients)

 

Wow.

[Gradient Keeper]

Let's see that. This Forum would lose its mind. Jim would need tranquilizers in the dart form administered by Tim.

[GHweatherChris]

How about both! Snow and a massive north wind as well!

Well, we do need northerly help get snow, snow, that would work.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

How about a strong arctic front blasting south resulting in YWL-BLI of +22mb, BLI-PDX of +15mb, YKA-OMK +17mb(+Positive = northerly gradients) and OTH-GEG -23mb, PDX-DLS -14mb(-Negative = Easterly gradients)

 

Low can stall off Cape Blanco pls

[GHweatherChris]

Then hopefully the wind fans can talk without any unnecessary whining.

Who's whining? I was just stating my preference like everyone else. Besides, I grew up on the coast and have had my fill of wind storms.

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

Snow can also create a lot of damage as well...look at the Dec. 1996 for Puget Sound!

The carport at my apartment in Bellingham collapsed, damaging my car. There was a picture of me surveying the damage in the Bellingham Herald. That kind of snow is rare there though. And also snow/ice causes fatal car accidents, so I used to feel a little guilty of rooting for them.

 

Over here people are used to snow, and they take care of the roads, so accidents aren't as common as they could be. And roofs and carports can handle big snow loads.

[Gradient Keeper]

I'm seeing a trend at Day 4. Energy off Kamchatka/Siberia progressively held back and heights/positive anomaly strengthening slightly over the central Pacific. Here are the past 8 runs 500mb anomalies. Very evident. Keep this trend going and we may be in business.

 

https://imgur.com/UKBS1gJ

[bainbridgekid]

Pretty unusual lack of cold air to work with Nationwide right now.

 

Not often you see a 986mb low slide through Ohio in midwinter with literally zero snow to the Northwest of it.

 

[Blizzard777]

One thing to consider is that AR events such as what we'll be seeing Monday-Tuesday have many times preceded an abrupt pattern change and arctic air.

 

00z GFS in 27 minutes!

And that’s what I’m counting on! Feel it in me bones

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Hope tonight's EC snow map can show at least a dusting/flakes in the air for the S valley like this morning's.

[BLI snowman]

Aaaaah. Good.

 

Blythe's climate would be brutal.

Medford might have made the most sense. It's pretty much been a Rogue Valley kinda year for SW WA.

[BLI snowman]

It's a joke... playing on the crippling drought and sand dunes that dominate the Portland landscape now.

I don't live in Portland.

[luvssnow_spokane]

Let's see that. This Forum would lose its mind. Jim would need tranquilizers in the dart form administered by Tim.

Careful.. Tim might enjoy that to much.

[TT-SEA]

I don't live in Portland.

Meant the Portland area. You sure don't live in Blythe.

[BLI snowman]

Meant the Portland area. You sure don't live in Blythe.

Just as much snow here as in Blythe so far

[TT-SEA]

Just as much snow here as in Blythe so far

 

We are very close to the Blythe total as well up here.  

[Blizzard777]

Who's whining? I was just stating my preference like everyone else. Besides, I grew up on the coast and have had my fill of wind storms.

Well, bust my buttons! Why didn’t you say that in the first place? That’s a horse of a different color!

 

I suppose it would be like California folks hoping for another sunny day. Makes sense

[TT-SEA]

Well, bust my buttons! Why didn’t you say that in the first place? That’s a horse of a different color!

 

I suppose it would be like California folks hoping for another sunny day. Makes sense

 

People in California always hope for another sunny day.   

[GHweatherChris]

Well, bust my buttons! Why didn’t you say that in the first place? That’s a horse of a different color!

 

I suppose it would be like California folks hoping for another sunny day. Makes sense

This makes no sense...

[Blizzard777]

People in California always hope for another sunny day.

 

That’s sick! Could never live down there. I need my seasons

[TT-SEA]

That’s sick! Could never live down there. I need my seasons

 

 

Why can't sun be a part of each season?   

 

 

[Phil]

Hit the nail on the head. Nice to have activity and with that things can move in the right direction for snow and cold for us. I love all the rain and wind.

I think you could argue that a stronger jet and stormier pattern in the near turn will hurt chances at Arctic air down the road. The best way to build cold into western Canada is to shut down the Pacific jet.

 

Just saying, timing is of the essence. Tropical forcing starts favoring the central and eastern part of the country after January 10th, +/- a few days. The longer the NPAC takes to flip, the tougher it will be.

[Blizzard777]

Why can't sun be a part of each season?   

I’m good with that just not continuous sun environment