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my God, this forum has devolved into the worst of the worst. It's always emotional and reactionary in here, but it seems that the rational and seasoned members have pulled back to make way for the kids. I'm going to step back for the day too. It's just too much uninformed nonsense. I am excited for a lot of you guys, because it seems like this is your first time tracking a PNW winter storm. I remember my first time.
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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Humans were resilient but average life expectancy was 30 and you died from a cold and nature was ruthless.   It took a long time for the population to build up to a sustainable number allowing humans to survive all the hardships so that we are here today.   Individual lives were very tough.   They didn't know any different though... it was just the way it was.

What else happened when you were growing up 

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my God, this forum has devolved into the worst of the worst. It's always emotional and reactionary in here, but it seems that the rational and seasoned members have pulled back to make way for the kid

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Humans were resilient but average life expectancy was 30 and you died from a cold and nature was ruthless.   It took a long time for the population to build up to a sustainable number allowing humans to survive all the hardships so that we are here today.   Individual lives were very tough.   They didn't know any different though... it was just the way it was.

They experienced different challenges. If one survived early childhood you could live a decently long life. Maybe not by todays standards, but there were people in their 50s,60s, and 70s back then. The life expectancy was so low due to high childhood mortality. Of course if you got cancer, heart disease, a bad infection, etc... It was over. 

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1 minute ago, OysterPrintout said:

What else happened when you were growing up 

There was no internet!   We had it rough.  

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They experienced different challenges. If one survived early childhood you could live a decently long life. Maybe not by todays standards, but there were people in their 50s,60s, and 70s back then. The life expectancy was so low due to high childhood mortality. Of course if you got cancer, heart disease, a bad infection, etc... It was over. 

They would also be fine if they were ruling class. At least in medieval times

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33 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

Just had a pretty heavy groupel shower here in Mountlake Terrace hit in the middle of recess. Showed my class the radar before we went out and told them to watch for “dippin’ dot” snow to start during recess so that was perfect timing to make me look like a genius. 😅

 

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Too bad you didn't have more lead time, then you could have gone to winco and bought the class dip'n'dots if it happened.

Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

They experienced different challenges. If one survived early childhood you could live a decently long life. Maybe not by todays standards, but there were people in their 50s,60s, and 70s back then. The life expectancy was so low due to high childhood mortality. Of course if you got cancer, heart disease, a bad infection, etc... It was over. 

Of course we are also talking about thousands of years ago... but more recently I read in detail about people making the trek along the Oregon trail.   What an ordeal that was.  

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On 1/6/2024 at 10:23 PM, snow_wizard said:

I think the lowest 850s on record for SEA was -22 in Feb 1956.

Sitting in a motel room just north of Little Rock, AR 

Expecting scattered severe storms overnight.

I avoided snow all the way here, but now have to deal with this before I head to TN in the morning

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Crazy when you think about it. We had no phones in school. I kind miss those days.  

My sons have told me and my wife that we had it better back then we were kids with no internet or social media.   

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2 minutes ago, Slushy Inch said:

They would also be fine if they were ruling class. At least in medieval times

By then things were already pretty f*cked. But humanity during the times of tribes and small groups lived better than we tend to give them credit for.

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25 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Can you imagine the life early settlers who had to be outside... must have been so brutal.   We are all lucky to be living now.  

My 3x great grandfather came to Butte in a covered wagon in 1867.  And Butte is routinely the coldest spot in MT.  At the time it was merely a mining camp with a hundred or so people. 

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Oh god it’s actually real snowing!! Please do not stop!!! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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One thing I do worry about when the moisture makes it here is the dry dew points eating up the snow before it hits the ground.

2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 51

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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12Z ECMWF actually looks like it was pretty close for right now.   With the dry air coming down the Sound right now the radar echoes might nor actually represent measureable precipitation... so the ECMWF might look understated without actually being so. 

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Oh god it’s actually real snowing!! Please do not stop!!! 

Don't stop! Don't stop! Gimme that 6 inches! I'm almost there! *gets covered in white*

01/11/24 CZ: 400' in south Lynnwood

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Oh god it’s actually real snowing!! Please do not stop!!! 

Let us know how much you get! My react was for you!

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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12Z ECMWF actually looks like it was pretty close for right now.   With the dry air coming down the Sound right now the radar echoes might nor actually represent measureable precipitation... so the ECMWF might look understated without actually being so. 

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That’s not close wtf

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12Z ECMWF actually looks like it was pretty close for right now.   With the dry air coming down the Sound right now the radar echoes might nor actually represent measureable precipitation... so it might look understated without actually being so. 

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Can’t we just pretend and have a little hope? 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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That’s not close wtf

I think it is pretty close based on what is measureable.  

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF actually looks like it was pretty close for right now.   With the dry air coming down the Sound right now the radar echoes might nor actually represent measureable precipitation... so the ECMWF might look understated without actually being so. 

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Need this sequim blob to keep building and push south

PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220

2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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Daze is not impressed with the Arctic front but is quite interested in the forum drama.IMG_20240111_144203459.thumb.jpg.251867a4cb84953050945372b584a3ae.jpg

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

My sons have told me and my wife that we had it better back then we were kids with no internet or social media.   

This is the only social media i am on. Never have ever had a facebook. I can imagine social media is tough on kids growing up.

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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Need this sequim blob to keep building and push south

ECMWF shows that little blob up there right now and says it will actually push to the west and south and spread out.   I think you are going to be good.

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Just now, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

This is the only social media i am on. Never have ever had a facebook. I can imagine social media is tough on kids growing up.

Yeah... it can brutal for teenagers.

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