Jesse Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The 12 Euro is really nice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Bremerton hit 43 this morning, tying the record from 2008. OLM hit 38, one degree shy of the record from 2008. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Euro and its ensembles look a little more moderate with the warmth early next week, compared to the GFS. 12Z Euro would probably top PDX out in the mid-upper 80s on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Beautiful afternoon... looks like the rain is staying south. Its not really moving. Its been partly to mostly sunny all afternoon and fairly calm. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Bremerton hit 43 this morning, tying the record from 2008. OLM hit 38, one degree shy of the record from 2008. Legendary stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Legendary stuff.A sign that things are shifting a bit from the warm monotony of the past few years, at very least. It's been awhile since we've seen anything even approaching record lows in the region. Been nice seeing them pop up here and there the last week or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Euro and its ensembles look a little more moderate with the warmth early next week, compared to the GFS. 12Z Euro would probably top PDX out in the mid-upper 80s on Tuesday.Looks like the 18z GFS flips right back into troughing. Only has four above average days through the entire run @ 850mb. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Looks like the 18z GFS flips right back into troughing. Only has four above average days through the entire run @ 850mb.Would be more line line the with Euro. Especially the Euro ensembles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Looks like the 18z GFS flips right back into troughing. Only has four above average days through the entire run @ 850mb. So everything changing again? Sometimes its just better to go by intuition and an understanding of local history and tendencies. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Would be more line line the with Euro. Especially the Euro ensembles.Yeah, once that ridge builds up offshore/near the Aleutians, it's very hard to avoid a downstream trough over the PNW. Especially now that the +QBO is going to hold on much longer than anticipated (favors stronger NPAC height rises during La Niña). The recent QBO developments also have potentially significant implications for winter. We'll have to see where we go from here, but a longer lasting +QBO will help with early season NPAC blocking. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 So everything changing again? Sometimes its just better to go by intuition and an understanding of local history and tendencies.Sometimes it's better to STFU. Hard to see those instances ahead of time, though. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 So everything changing again? Sometimes its just better to go by intuition and an understanding of local history and tendencies.Did I say anything like that? Nope. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Did I say I was changing my forecast? No... models keep going in circles though. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Interesting sky this afternoon... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Sometimes it's better to STFU. Hard to see those instances ahead of time, though. Very true! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 No... models keep going in circles though.Exactly, as would be expected in transitional periods without a well defined background state. Pattern instability will probably continue until the Niña/-AAM base locks in, over intraseasonal/propagatory forcing. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 No... models keep going in circles though.The models are doing what they generally do. You are just more nervous than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 The models are doing what they generally do. You are just more nervous than usual. We are not even going to be home for most of the next 3 weeks unfortunately. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 A sign that things are shifting a bit from the warm monotony of the past few years, at very least. It's been awhile since we've seen anything even approaching record lows in the region. Been nice seeing them pop up here and there the last week or so. Eh, this month is running well above average still and looks to wind up that way for most. It'll be newsworthy when we go 30+ days without any prolonged warmth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Eh, this month is running well above average still and looks to wind up that way for most. It'll be newsworthy when we go 30+ days without any prolonged warmth.What's your definition of "prolonged warmth"? Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 What's your definition of "prolonged warmth"? Majority of days above normal in a given several week period. Been the case pretty much permanently since February 2014. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Majority of days above normal in a given several week period. Been the case pretty much permanently since February 2014.In that case, I think the streak ends in July, or if the next round of ridging underperforms, then it's probably already ended. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Legendary stuff. Some fairly legendary stuff happened in 2008... Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Some fairly legendary stuff happened in 2008...Yes we can!!! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Eh, this month is running well above average still and looks to wind up that way for most. It'll be newsworthy when we go 30+ days without any prolonged warmth.Agreed. Nice to see things shaking up a little, nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Yeah, once that ridge builds up offshore/near the Aleutians, it's very hard to avoid a downstream trough over the PNW. Especially now that the +QBO is going to hold on much longer than anticipated (favors stronger NPAC height rises during La Niña). The recent QBO developments also have potentially significant implications for winter. We'll have to see where we go from here, but a longer lasting +QBO will help with early season NPAC blocking. Here's something some folks may find interesting. Winters that featured neutral/-ENSO and +QBO. Bolded years had major/repeated blocking episodes. 2013-142010-112008-092001-021999-001992-931990-911985-861980-811978-791975-761971-721966-671961-621959-601955-56 And those with -QBO. 2012-132011-122007-082005-062000-011996-971995-961993-941989-901988-891983-841981-821974-751970-711967-681962-631960-611958-591956-571954-551952-531950-511949-50 (I'm not sure how reliable the late 40/early 50s QBO data is, as it's non-stop negative pretty much until 1955, which doesn't fit the see-saw pattern every 1-2 years seen since then) In the last 30 years, at least, it appears +QBO years deliver a better shot at significant blocking. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Eh, this month is running well above average still and looks to wind up that way for most. It'll be newsworthy when we go 30+ days without any prolonged warmth. With anomalies dropping fast, and the last third of the month up in the air, I think there's quite a bit of uncertainty. Most places could end up anywhere from near normal to well above. Or even record warm! 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Here's something some folks may find interesting. Winters that featured neutral/-ENSO and +QBO. Bolded years had major/repeated blocking episodes. 2013-142010-112008-092001-021999-001992-931990-911985-861980-811978-791975-761971-721966-671961-621959-601955-56 And those with -QBO. 2012-132011-122007-082005-062000-011996-971995-961993-941989-901988-891983-841981-821974-751970-711967-681962-631960-611958-591956-571954-551952-531950-511949-50 (I'm not sure how reliable the late 40/early 50s QBO data is, as it's non-stop negative pretty much until 1955, which doesn't fit the see-saw pattern every 1-2 years seen since then) In the last 30 years, at least, it appears +QBO years deliver a better shot at significant blocking.Yeah, the +QBO definitely favors a stronger and poleward NPAC high during La Niña winters. When accounting for solar forcing, the QBO correlation to NPAC blocking (during La Niña winters) increases even further. In El Niño, things work a bit differently, where -QBO/Niño winters tend to favor more -EPO/westward-biased Aleutian lows, hence perform better in the PNW. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 With anomalies dropping fast, and the last third of the month up in the air, I think there's quite a bit of uncertainty. Most places could end up anywhere from near normal to well above. Or even record warm! Medium above is most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 With anomalies dropping fast, and the last third of the month up in the air, I think there's quite a bit of uncertainty. Most places could end up anywhere from near normal to well above. Or even record warm! SEA will see a record warm month while OLM is slightly below average. Runaway 3rd runway warmth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 SEA will see a record warm month while OLM is slightly below average. Runaway 3rd runway warmth. Yep. That's exactly how it works. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Absolutely dumping rain here for the last hour... radar shows the cell is basically stationary. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Absolutely dumping rain here for the last hour... radar shows the cell is basically stationary. Wettest June on record? Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 There have been some decent thunderstorms sitting almost stationary just west of Seattle with decent lightning strikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TT-SEA Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Wettest June on record? No sir. But it sure has been raining hard. Radar is really interesting. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 image.jpegIs that Tim's yard!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Apparently the 39 at The Dalles this morning was their latest sub-40 low on record. 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 I'm liking the precip event that has started showing up Friday evening/night even if it does make for a cooler cloudy Saturday. With the warmer pattern coming up we can still use all the precipitation we can get. The stuff today continued to be spotty/frustrating though a few new areas scored some mega dumps. The band on the 0z look fairly broad/slow moving, which would certainly be a plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Is that Tim's yard!?Sounds like it was. It was interesting watching the thunderstorms form. I went down to the waterfront with the family for a couple hours and watched these thunderstorms just form up in place (instead of the usual passing thunderstorms) to the point of lightning and downdrafts and then dissipate into mist as the sun was setting. It must have been a sort of slight convergence that set up in the central sound and with the cape created the stationary thunderstorms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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