OKwx2k4 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Watching Michigan game in the snow earlier was beautiful to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 West Virginia and Oklahoma it's snowing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 West Virginia and Oklahoma it's snowingYup. I'm watching it right now. It's a beautiful thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Yup. I'm watching it right now. It's a beautiful thing. Yay!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 18z GEFS illustrating a cold/wintry pattern smack dab in the heartland of the nation....it's even picking up on lake moisture from LM... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016111918/gfs-ens_apcpna_us_10.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016111918/gfs-ens_T2maMean_us_12.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 North America is a glacier on the CFS today. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 North America is a glacier on the CFS today.cfs_snowfall_conus_2016111912_181t.pngThere is enough longer range guidance that suggests to me this is going to be one hellova flip if you haven't seen one in your life time! In terms of snow, it looks like a subtropical/GOM connection could fire up the southern stream storm track and unload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 The GFS and Euro Ensembles are trying to seed enough cold down into that southern system around the 1st to bring snows to Oklahoma. It would be about 41-43 days since the dreary, cold storm of October down here. I think it has merit. I'd like to see a good measurable snow to open December here and then I think a huge storm should follow it around the 4th-6th. Nearly the entirety of the northern half of the country is going to be covered in snow soon. What an amazing transition we are about to see.Indeed, I'm stoked what I'm seeing and its not just one fluke run after another. Regarding the storm system, I'm trying to figure out if this will be a 2-part system sending one wave into the upper midwest while the stronger/southern wave digs into your area and ejects towards the Lakes. Between Oct 19-21st, there was a stationary boundary that parked itself from the TX Panhandle/OK/S MO/S IL/S IN regions and a wave developed along it. That system was loaded with moisture. This whole LRC pattern had copious amounts of moisture but in different regions of the PAC NW/West and a little near the Lakes/Upper Midwest. Fast forward to Winter, take into account the blocking, your going to see some moisture laden storms IMO.http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/Last1mPDeptUS.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 The last half of the LRC is starting to show signs of moisture coming out of the SW/Southern Plains... http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/products/maps/acis/MonthPDeptUS.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Snowball Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Please give me the CFS! Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 North America is a glacier on the CFS today.cfs_snowfall_conus_2016111912_181t.pngAll of those verify pls, esp 2 and 3 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 North America is a glacier on the CFS today.cfs_snowfall_conus_2016111912_181t.png Wow! The Whole Country has turned into Ice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 It was not bad, that's for sure. About 17". 2000 and 2008 were the biggies around here (in recent times) Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Man, the winds are howling now and I am getting one heck of a snowsquall. Pure whiteout. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Man, is it blustery outside. Went to take out the garbage and the wind is biting cold. WCF near 17F. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 North America is a glacier on the CFS today.cfs_snowfall_conus_2016111912_181t.pngThat is nuts! Give me any of those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Beautiful morning for some deer hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Beautiful morning for some deer hunting.Good luck shooting a buck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Post storm, both Michigan and Superior still running much above normal. It's going to take some serious cold fronts to cool these bodies of waters back down to normal. Expect an extended season of LES/:Lehs this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Good luck shooting a buck!Thank you. Had a low of 24 this morning. That will sure wake you up when you're not quite used to it yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 We made it down to 20 in town this morning. The airport hit 17. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 GEFS trending with an ominous storm track over the central CONUS. Ridges off both the west and east coasts...SE ridge looking formidable as the PNA heads towards neutral. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112006/gfs-ens_z500trend_us_26.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112006/gfs-ens_z500trend_namer_28.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Could be a little snow on Thanksgiving night in parts of Iowa. This is the EPS Control from 00z run last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Could be a little snow on Thanksgiving night in parts of Iowa. This is the EPS Control from 00z run last night. euro.PNGI'm thinking of starting a storm thread for the Pre-Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving Day/Black Friday snow events. Looks like the chances are looking better for a wintry system during the holiday in and around the region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 GFS still showing a monster storm around the end of November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Here is a little weather history for today in south central lower Michigan November 201869: More than a foot of snow fell at Lansing, setting a record for the most ever recorded during the month of November.2000: An intense lake effect snow squall dropped almost a foot of snow on Grand Rapids, setting a record for the most snow in a November day there. I will toss up these tidbits from the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I started a separate storm thread for the 2 systems around the Thanksgiving holiday... 12z GFS...impressive start to Winter if this transpires... http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2016112012/384/snku_acc.conus.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I started a separate storm thread for the 2 systems around the Thanksgiving holiday... 12z GFS...impressive start to Winter if this transpires... http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2016112012/384/snku_acc.conus.pngI hate that storm track. I don't want a repeat of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I hate that storm track. I don't want a repeat of last year.Not ideal for us around here either, but it's way early in the season. I'm sure there will be storms that cut west/east and others that simply bowling ball across the country. There's a lot of blocking this year and should help create various storm tracks of which we haven't seen in a long while. I just like the fact that there are actual storms to track and not any weak open waves which we have been accustomed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Not ideal for us around here either, but it's way early in the season. I'm sure there will be storms that cut west/east and others that simply bowling ball across the country. There's a lot of blocking this year and should help create various storm tracks of which we haven't seen in a long while. I just like the fact that there are actual storms to track and not any weak open waves which we have been accustomed to.I will agree it still early in the season. But we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Cloudy, somewhat windy, and a cold 32° here at my house. Still have some snow on the ground and roofs and car tops here. I had a total of just under one inch here. Depending on how warm it gets today at the airport it could be either the coldest maximum temperature since either April 4th (34° 230 days) or it could be the coldest since March 3rd (28° 262 days) either way it is the coldest daytime temperature is a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Take some pics of snow out there boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 12z GEFS advertising multiple waves of energy to close out the month... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112012/gfs-ens_mslpa_us_33.png Day later... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112012/gfs-ens_mslpa_us_37.png Somewhat bigger wave to open December... http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112012/gfs-ens_mslpa_us_45.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Its cold outside! Currently @ 32F. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 That ridge near Hudson Bay is going to be a key player moving forward as storms dive down into the 4 corners region and cut up near the Lakes/OV. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112012/gfs-ens_z500aMean_namer_8.png That is an impressive looking jet stream poised to bring some action and satisfaction for a lot of members on here...there could be storm systems to track every 3-5 days if this pattern doesn't break. Maybe the CFSv2 is not off its rocker laying down a glacier in December! http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112012/gfs-ens_uv250_namer_43.png http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2016112012/gfs-ens_uv250_namer_59.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Next 10 days for Des Moines is looking like highs in the 50s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Tom, what day do you fly back again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Tom, what day do you fly back again?I fly back on the 30th and arrive at 7:11pm...gonna be a nail biter to see what happens. I'm going to literally get off the plane, head home and put up my lights! Something tells me it's going to snow around my place on the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 That is an impressive looking jet stream poised to bring some action and satisfaction for a lot of members on here...there could be storm systems to track every 3-5 days if this pattern doesn't break. Maybe the CFSv2 is not off its rocker laying down a glacier in December! That looks incredible Tom. Let's see if we can get temps to cooperate for snow in our back yards too! 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 GGEM end of it's run: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2016112012/240/sfcwind_mslp.conus.png 24 HR Snowfall: http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ggem/2016112012/240/snku_024h.conus.png 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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