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Just thinking. This event is January 2005s orphan child. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Woke up and looks like it’s still 32.5 at most stations in the neighborhood, so that’s a positive sign. SEA IS 34/32 with SE winds, so still some easterly component there. It’s since accumulated snow on roads here.

The bad news is that there’s not much precip out there… did I wake up too early? 

2022-23 Winter:

11/29: .25" + 1" = 1.25" | 11/30: .25"

12/2: .2" + .5" = .7" | 12/3: .2" | 12/4: trace

12/18: .4" | 12/19: .2" + .8" = 1.0" | 12/20: .2 + 1.5" = 1.7

1/31: trace | 2/14: trace | 2/22: .2 | 2/26: 1.0"

Total: 6.7"

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Just thinking. This event is January 2005s orphan child. 

Would be a pretty epic last moment collapse if so. Oof.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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12 minutes ago, van city said:

Just hit 8 inches of new snow and with the 7 from the first, 15 in total so far. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was just in Vancouver this weekend to visit family, and decided to come back Sunday evening with my family so we wouldn’t get stuck. Looks like we made the right call but I also sad to have missed it!

We go up to Van every Dec and the past number of December’s have been quite snowy!

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13 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Just thinking. This event is January 2005s orphan child. 

Eh, second push of cold air definitely seems different this time around-- more potent for sure.

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

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5 minutes ago, Requiem said:

Eh, second push of cold air definitely seems different this time around-- more potent for sure.

Hasn’t happened yet…

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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What an EPIC FAIL. Not a single goddamn flake all night. Nothing. 

A lot of folks are gonna be pissed at the so-called "storm".

This s*** was hyped big by local outlets and had people running around like crazy.

Yes, NWS did state there would be a line of demarcation so to speak, but holyshit, what a complete dud.

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5 minutes ago, JSnowlin said:

What an EPIC FAIL. Not a single goddamn flake all night. Nothing. 

A lot of folks are gonna be pissed at the so-called "storm".

This s*** was hyped big by local outlets and hasld people running around like crazy.

Yes, NWS did state there would be a line of demarcation so to speak, but holyshit, what a complete dud.

Additionally, stiff SW breeze at 14mph (warm as f***-all right now) 

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41 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Would be a pretty epic last moment collapse if so. Oof.

PDX south it may play out in a very similar fashion. The 2005 event was great in whatcom county and the Vancouver metro. 
 

PDX and SLE had a sub freezing high and ZR with a back door push of cold air… Maybe a hybrid 2005, 2020, 2004

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Temps into the 40s all the way up the WA coast right now with south winds.  This allows us to pinpoint the center of the low. This storm is coming in right around the NW tip of WA.    This warm spike will quickly pass over the Seattle area this morning.   Cold air rushes back in along back edge of precip starting around 1 p.m. in Seattle.

I think the modeling issues have to due to with the fact that the low was rapidly developing and not an established storm moving in.   The snowy model runs that buried Seattle this morning (like 00Z GFS) just could not latch on to the developing low and kept it more of an open wave.   The ECMWF got the idea on Sunday and stayed consistent... but it was also playing catch up as the low was shown to be a little stronger and farther north with each run.   

It seems like rapidly developing lows tend to end up farther north than modeled... while weakening lows often end up south of modeled projections.  

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

Temps into the 40s all the way up the WA coast right now with south winds.  This allows to pinpoint the center of the low. This storm is coming in right around the NW tip of WA.    This warm spike with quickly pass over the Seattle area this morning.   Cold air rushes back in along back edge of precip starting around 1 p.m. in Seattle.

I think the modeling issues have to due to with the fact that the low was rapidly developing and not an established storm moving in.   The snowy model runs that buried Seattle this morning (like 00Z GFS) just could not latch on to the developing low and kept it more of an open wave.   The ECMWF got the idea on Sunday and stayed consistent... but it was also playing catch up as the low was shown to be a little stronger and farther north with each run.   

It seems like rapidly developing lows tend to end up farther north than modeled... while weakening lows often end up south modeled projections.  

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It’s funny the GFS showed this happening first and was rock solid only to cave to the euro as the euro caved to the gfs. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Was even possible to tell from satellite imagery that the low was strengthening?

2022-23 Winter:

11/29: .25" + 1" = 1.25" | 11/30: .25"

12/2: .2" + .5" = .7" | 12/3: .2" | 12/4: trace

12/18: .4" | 12/19: .2" + .8" = 1.0" | 12/20: .2 + 1.5" = 1.7

1/31: trace | 2/14: trace | 2/22: .2 | 2/26: 1.0"

Total: 6.7"

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It’s funny the GFS showed this happening first and was rock solid only to cave to the euro as the euro caved to the gfs. 

Very true... I just realized the GFS was the original hold out on snow and showed the northern position first.   Which was the right answer.   No model comes out of this a winner.   But once it get within 48 hours it's really hard to beat the ECMWF. 

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God damnit. It is 33.1/32.7 and raining. SSW 12 at SEA and 37 - they are definitely in the warm sector. Maybe I have a chance to turn to snow with heavier precip? Who am I kidding. Ugh.

At least I'm fully awake and can get some work out of the way to follow any backwash. If we are so lucky to taste those scraps the weather gods throw at us. Nothing like waking up at 4 for rain 😭

2022-23 Winter:

11/29: .25" + 1" = 1.25" | 11/30: .25"

12/2: .2" + .5" = .7" | 12/3: .2" | 12/4: trace

12/18: .4" | 12/19: .2" + .8" = 1.0" | 12/20: .2 + 1.5" = 1.7

1/31: trace | 2/14: trace | 2/22: .2 | 2/26: 1.0"

Total: 6.7"

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2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

9" new, 11" on the ground. Still dumping. 18˚F.

Weather report says it might continue until noon!

My ex sent me this nice photo two hours ago.  It’s drifting snow so no way to get a proper measurement.  Told her to update when light out.  I’m assuming snow blowing everywhere as she is not wind protected and taking the full force. 
Ferndale Wa. 

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Other than some flurries yesterday evening, no snow at all unfortunately. Light rain now and 36° in Kent. Hoping the last batch of heavier precipitation in a few hours will changeover to snow before it ends, but overall, what a letdown. Frustrating how extremely difficult forecasting snow is around here. 

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30 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Very true... I just realized the GFS was the original hold out on snow and showed the northern position first.   Which was the right answer.   No model comes out of this a winner.   But once it get within 48 hours it's really hard to beat the ECMWF. 

Agree….ECMWF (even though I hate it currently) is the one to put stock in (short term). 

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Not sure if it's indicative of much but apparently 84 is closed Troutdale to Hood River due to ice 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3"

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