September 2017 PNW Discussion Thread

[Deweydog]

Good for the lungs I hear.

It's pretty high based today. Not bad.

[Jesse]

A heat wave ruined by smoke could be a first if it happens.

Yes, I bet this is the first time in history we've ever seen late season heat and wildfires at the same time.

[TT-SEA]

A heat wave ruined by smoke could be a first if it happens.

Happened in early August as well... and we were discussing at that time that is was probably much more common long ago in the 19th century and early 20th century when fires burned out of control for long periods of time.

 

It was probably common for thousands of years before we arrived.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Warmest day so far this year here at just over 89F, nudging out Aug 2nd; however, some poorly timed high clouds could spoil the shot at a 90F+ day. Air quality is still good here, but looking worse and worse to the south. Everything looks pretty parched, Rhododendrons do not like the heat. YYJ is still flirting with a monthly record with maybe another hour or so of potential heating if we lose the clouds.

 

http://i.imgur.com/fi8QL4R.jpg

[Jesse]

I was over in Liberty WA yesterday and it was pretty awful there. Probably the driest I have ever seen it with thick dust settled over everything along with smoke, falling ash, withered vegetation, and a hellish looking red sky. The dust on the roads was so bad you had to wait for about a minute to exit the car to not become overwhelmed by a cloud of dust.

 

No question extremes beget extremes. Lets hope this winter gives us the extremes we want.

This is the time of year that you actively delude yourself into thinking everything is a good sign I see. Maybe our climate is just getting hotter.

[TT-SEA]

Warmest day so far this year here at just over 89F, nudging out Aug 2nd; however, some poorly timed high clouds could spoil the shot at a 90F+ day. Air quality is still good here, but looking worse and worse to the south. Everything looks pretty parched, Rhododendrons do not like the heat. YYJ is still flirting with a monthly record with maybe another hour or so of potential heating if we lose the clouds.

 

http://i.imgur.com/fi8QL4R.jpg

You know it is possible to turn on a sprinkler at night for a couple hours once a week. California yards look nicer than many of the yards in the PNW when it does not rain.

[Deweydog]

This is the time of year that you actively delude yourself into thinking everything is a good sign is see. Maybe our climate is just getting hotter.

Tim?

[Jesse]

You know it is possible to turn on a sprinkler at night for a couple hours once a week. California yards look nicer than many of the yards in the PNW when it does not rain.

You should drive up there and kick his a**.

[Jesse]

Tim?

Wildfires and dying vegetation are always GREAT signs for the coming winter. Look it up!!!

 

#infowars.com

[TT-SEA]

You should drive up there and kick his a**.

I might drive up there and turn on a hose for 20 minutes.

 

It would drive me crazy watching landscaping plants die when all it needed was a little drink once a week.

[Geos]

Looks like 87, maybe 88 for a high.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

You know it is possible to turn on a sprinkler at night for a couple hours once a week. California yards look nicer than many of the yards in the PNW when it does not rain.

 

Probably wouldn't make a difference here, we got rain shadowed most of the spring so things didn't develop a healthy base like they did in non-shadowed areas. People around here have just given up, there's not a single green lawn on the street. Hopefully the fall will provide more generous rainfall.

[Deweydog]

I might drive up there and turn on a hose for 20 minutes.

 

It would drive me crazy watching landscaping plants die when all it needed was a little drink once a week.

It's more productive and satisfying to wallow in the negativity of a less than favorable situation.

 

#nevertrump

[TT-SEA]

Probably wouldn't make a difference here, we got rain shadowed most of the spring so things didn't develop a healthy base like they did in non-shadowed areas. People around here have just given up, there's not a single green lawn on the street. Hopefully the fall will provide more generous rainfall.

Too bad... it does not take much if you do it right.

[BLI snowman]

What a bust. Screw this climate.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Too bad... it does not take much if you do it right.

 

Well I have managed to keep the Rhodos near the house alive with drip irrigation, most of the stuff lower down just isn't worth it, We've had too many extremely dry summers in a row now, I need to replace them with more drought tolerant plants/trees.

[Deweydog]

What I'd do for a dose of stagnant, ecoli infested floodwaters right now...

[BLI snowman]

What I'd do for a dose of stagnant, ecoli infested floodwaters right now...

 

Let's do a kickstarter to get Irma headed this way!

[VancouverIslandSouth]

What I'd do for a dose of stagnant, ecoli infested floodwaters right now...

 

#firstworldproblems

[Jesse]

What a bust. Screw this climate.

Could be our last shot at record warmth for years!

[snow_wizard]

This is the time of year that you actively delude yourself into thinking everything is a good sign is see. Maybe our climate is just getting hotter.

 

We did have last winter sandwiched in amongst the warmth.  I could live with seeing our coldest anoms in the winter.

[snow_wizard]

Well I have managed to keep the Rhodos near the house alive with drip irrigation, most of the stuff lower down just isn't worth it, We've had too many extremely dry summers in a row now, I need to replace them with more drought tolerant plants/trees.

 

The interesting thing is our summers used to be very dry compared to what we have come to think of as normal.  In the first quarter of the 20th century Seattle's normal precip was about half of recent in July and Aug.  Of course that was with cooler temps also.  

[snow_wizard]

Just for review here are the temps for last winter.  I will say we are more than due for a few very cool summers though.

[Kayla]

Well if anyone was questioning if smoke suppresses high temperatures, they only need to look to today at PDX. Only 89º at the 3:53pm reading with 850mb temps at 26-27C. 4,300ft overcast layer being reported which is of course the very thick low level smoke layer.

 

Today also proved that low level smoke effects high temps even greater than more ground based (less than 2,000ft AGL) smoke.

[Deweydog]

90 at Astoria and 89 at PDX at 4pm. You'd be hard pressed to find too many examples of that.

[Jesse]

18z says: 100 again next Monday???

[Deweydog]

18z says: 100 again next Monday???

You will pay for today.

[Jesse]

You will pay for today.

Anomalies are a one way street.

[Deweydog]

Anomalies are a one way street.

[wx_statman]

On the bright side, playing disc golf today was a lot less sweaty than expected. 

 

#smoke #bust #wouldratherhavedrownedinsweattoseearecordhigh

[Jesse]

Leave Andrew out of this.

[GHweatherChris]

94 here, but the smoke is moving in overhead quickly now.

 

90 in Hoquiam.

[wx_statman]

Monthly records today in Brookings (103, tying 1973) and Burns (100, tying 1950).

 

Everyone's partying but us. 

[Kayla]

Seeing lots of reports of falling ash around the East side and Vancouver. I'm assuming some of you are seeing the same?

[Deweydog]

Pretty amazing PDX hit 91 considering the circumstances.

[stuffradio]

Anomalies are bad, on both sides!

[seattleweatherguy]

Seeing lots of reports of falling ash around the East side and Vancouver. I'm assuming some of you are seeing the same?

I hope that doesn't happen here and stops there too. It's a hazard.

[Deweydog]

Anomalies are bad, on both sides!

You can't have one without the other. A super sexy -10 day is only possible because there have been spine-deteriorating, cancer-causing, bowel obstructing, ball-shrinking, rapist-creating, Nazi-sympathizing, butthole surfing +10 days before it.

[Deweydog]

Seeing lots of reports of falling ash around the East side and Vancouver. I'm assuming some of you are seeing the same?

Sticking?

[Phil]