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At this point the ECMWF has been slowly taming down the winds expected with the east wind event centered around Wednesday.  My guess is places that are having east winds today will be about 50% stronger winds on Wednesday than today.  An exception may be North Bend which had some pretty strong gusts today.  I think places more like here and Enumclaw will be the ones to see the stronger winds on Wednesday.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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1 minute ago, Cloud said:

We’ll look back at this next summer and glad this happened. 

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The million dollar question is whether or not the big rains in CA this winter indicate we have gone through a major regime shift.  If so, next summer may be a lot different than recent ones.  Still a good chance that won't be the case though.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The models are having serious trouble making up their minds whether the high latitude heights will be above or below normal as we get into the middle third of the month.  That ends up having big implications on how the pattern evolves after day 10.  The SSW can't hurt in that regard.

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I was just going to mention this... yesterday it was latched down and settled.   How could it be totally up in the air now?   

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1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

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I knew you were going to say something.  Didn't waste much time either!

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I was just going to mention this... yesterday it was latched down and settled.   How could it be totally up in the air now?   

Some aspects are staying pretty consistent such as the high moving off of Asia that ends up amplifying over the Pacific.  The details are widely varied though.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The million dollar question is whether or not the big rains in CA this winter indicate we have gone through a major regime shift.  If so, next summer may be a lot different than recent ones.  Still a good chance that won't be the case though.

2016/17 was very wet in CA and we torched that summer like usual

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15 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

At this point the ECMWF has been slowly taming down the winds expected with the east wind event centered around Wednesday.  My guess is places that are having east winds today will be about 50% stronger winds on Wednesday than today.  An exception may be North Bend which had some pretty strong gusts today.  I think places more like here and Enumclaw will be the ones to see the stronger winds on Wednesday.

Eh-- looks basically unchanged down here the past few days. Should be a purely downslope event with some decent upper level support.

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3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I knew you were going to say something.  Didn't waste much time either!

Looks like a nino-esque hodgepodge until further notice to me.

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Got very foggy all of a sudden. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Made it out to Lake Goodwin for the first time since October…The water level is slightly higher than the last time I was here. Forgot to put my fishing boat up on the concrete, oops. Seems okay and will deal with it in the spring. Nice day! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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12Z EPS was really wet for CA over the next 15 days... and a little drier than normal up here. 

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40F with some light rain.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 22-23 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 31F (Dec 22, 2022)
  • Coldest low: 16F (Jan 30, 2023)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 60 (Most recent: Mar 27, 2023)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 5 (Most recent: Jan 30, 2023)
  • Total snowfall: 1.2"
  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall: Mar 5, 2023
  • Last sub-freezing high: Dec 22, 2022 (31F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 1

 

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7 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

CA is the new Seattle

It was 80 degrees on Christmas down there.   

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Pathetic GFS run. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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8 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Winter storm warning for 6-15 inches. 18z GFS has finally got the axis placement closer to the other models and nails me with 20 inches. 18z RGEM was at 22 inches and 18z Euro was at 17.

It was dumping snow for a little while but has lightened up a bit now. Looks like a couple inches already but the big stuff will be rolling through tomorrow morning. Thundersnow and 2-3 inch/hr rates are possible by then. It should be a doozy.

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Saw this and thought of you... 

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All of the big stations had a nice minus departure today.  I'll take anything on the cold side of the ledger we can get in January.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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The 18z GEFS came out pretty good.  Decent -PNA late in the run.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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1 hour ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

250 inches of snow in places😯

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Pretty ridiculous how fast Mother Nature can even things out.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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I think we all need some eye candy right now! 😍

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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24 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

All of the big stations had a nice minus departure today.  I'll take anything on the cold side of the ledger we can get in January.

Nice 50 degree high at SEA with some sunshine.     If its not cold and snowing then low 50s and sun is pretty enjoyable.    Tangible experiences are more important to me than just stats.  ;) 

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The ECMWF has watered down the east wind event to where it's only what I would call high end average for such things.  Pretty remarkable given the strength of the low that's in play.  The details just don't pan out for it to get really big.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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27 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I think we all need some eye candy right now! 😍

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Looks nice. Snowing up in February so

it might happen. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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38/30 today. Temp dropped to 34 when precip moved in but it was just rain. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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11 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Wow 

 

 

Wow!  Almost sounds like Jan 1862.  Too bad we don't have the cold NW piece of the puzzle as well.  Maybe that will just be delayed a bit though.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The ECMWF has watered down the east wind event to where it's only what I would call high end average for such things.  Pretty remarkable given the strength of the low that's in play.  The details just don't pan out for it to get really big.

Great news.

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looks nice. Snowing up in February so

it might happen. 

I still think a decent chunk of this month is in play.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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PDX 44/32

SLE 40/34

EUG 43/35

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

I still think a decent chunk of this month is in play.

Hmm… IDK about decent chunk. Maybe a few days. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
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Can't ever recall all of CA getting hit like this.  The map is only 90 hours worth.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Hmm… IDK about decent chunk. Maybe a few days. 

I was thinking 7 to 10 days.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

PDX 44/32

SLE 40/34

EUG 43/35

Kind of nice surprise today.  Other than the lame max at SEA...pretty decent.  Even they dropped to 29 on the low though.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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I'm sure the media is going to jump all over this CA event and say it's unprecedented and due to man caused climate change.  I have one number that says otherwise.  1862.  Probably some others as well.

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Winter 2022-23 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 9.2"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 12

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.4"

Coldest Low = 17

Lows 32 or below = 72

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 4

Highs 40 or below = 22

 

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27 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Nice 50 degree high at SEA with some sunshine.     If its not cold and snowing then low 50s and sun is pretty enjoyable.    Tangible experiences are more important to me than just stats.  ;) 

43 down here, but off and on sunshine all day.  It's nice to get some sunshine in winter...vs. rain every day.  Variety is the spice of life!

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48 minutes ago, hawkstwelve said:

Winter storm warning for 6-15 inches. 18z GFS has finally got the axis placement closer to the other models and nails me with 20 inches. 18z RGEM was at 22 inches and 18z Euro was at 17.

It was dumping snow for a little while but has lightened up a bit now. Looks like a couple inches already but the big stuff will be rolling through tomorrow morning. Thundersnow and 2-3 inch/hr rates are possible by then. It should be a doozy.

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Do you have any input on which town would be snowier overall, Rapid City or Sioux Falls? Tough decisions on a place to move if SD is still on my list in 5 years. As much as I'd love the Black Hills, they can kinda screw Rapid City of the heaviest snow. 

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𝘐 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘰𝘸𝘯.

𝘗𝘶𝘺𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘶𝘱.

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2 minutes ago, HuskyMaestro said:

Do you have any input on which town would be snowier overall, Rapid City or Sioux Falls? Tough decisions on a place to move if SD is still on my list in 5 years. As much as I'd love the Black Hills, they can kinda screw Rapid City of the heaviest snow. 

Have you been to both cities? There are a million other reasons to give Rapid the nod. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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