December 2017 Observations and Discussions

[Hoosier]

The sign of a truly awesome pattern, when the relaxing of the pattern only leads to a brief blip to normal temps and more #snow..

Quite a difference between here and Michigan. I'm sitting here with bare ground as the little shots of snow have melted/sublimated away, while it's a winter wonderland in Michigan.

[OKwx2k4]

I basically want everyone northeast of me to get buried right now. The more snow up there, the longer it stays cold and keeps snow here when it gets here.

[Andrew NE]

Would this appease the Nebraska people on here?  Or no?  

 

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That is a beautiful looking map!

[Niko]

That's awesome buddy!

Yup.....its beautiful out there. More to come tomorrow and tomorrow night. This clipper could be possibly even more intense w higher snowfall numbers.

 

Btw: hope you get in on the action soon. Keep an eye on the weekend. Looks interesting!

[westMJim]

It has been sunny here all day until about 20 minutes ago that is when a brief but intense snow show blew thru had about 15 minutes of white out conditions and enought snow to cover the cleaned off sections of driveway and add a new top coat to the ground snow. Now the sun is back out once again. temperature here is 19° with the sun back out.

[Craig-OmahaWX]

Im feeling good about this but just because a 300hr gfs says so doesnt mean it will happen.

[Niko]

Sunny and a few passing clouds and frigid. Temps remaining in the teens for highs along w blowing snow. At times it looks like an all out blizzard w those gusty winds.

[hlcater]

He lives

[bud2380]

well the Euro was a total dud.  Hopefully it stays wrong.  

[GDR]

What a big fat egg! Will see

[jaster220]

I basically want everyone northeast of me to get buried right now. The more snow up there, the longer it stays cold and keeps snow here when it gets here.

 

Some nice reports out of SWMI..very small city with a well-known winery and vintner

 

RELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI

305 PM EST TUE DEC 12 2017

 

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...

..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....

..REMARKS..

 

0245 PM HEAVY SNOW 1 W PAW PAW 42.22N 85.91W

12/12/2017 M8.0 INCH VAN BUREN MI TRAINED SPOTTER

 

 

There's been more here in St. Joe since this was filed 4 hrs ago

 

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA

1103 AM EST TUE DEC 12 2017

 

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...

..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....

..REMARKS..

 

1103 AM SNOW SAINT JOSEPH 42.10N 86.49W

12/12/2017 M2.5 INCH BERRIEN MI TRAINED SPOTTER

 

LOW VISIBILITY, BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW.

[snowstorm83]

Looks like our best chance at accumulating snow so far at Lincoln will be Thursday. Between marginal temps and limited precip, it'll probably end up going down as another trace but we'll see.

[Minny_Weather]

Looks like our best chance at accumulating snow so far at Lincoln will be Thursday. Between marginal temps and limited precip, it'll probably end up going down as another trace but we'll see.

Yeah I think we end up seeing a mix of rain and snow Thursday with a trace recorded. Also, this is technically a clipper system so I've been posting everything regarding Thursday's "event" in that thread.

[Thunder98]

What's with the huge temperature differences between the Great Lakes and Great Plains?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Minny_Weather]

What's with the huge temperature differences between the Great Lakes and Great Plains?

 

The ridge.

[bud2380]

Seems to be related to this.

 

 

http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2017121212/000/500h.conus.png

 

 

What's with the huge temperature differences between the Great Lakes and Great Plains?

 

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[Madtown]

well...it maybe the 16th without anything of significance here....that was the breaking point. Getting concerned as upper 30s seem to be a best bet all next week.

[Snowlover76]

well the Euro was a total dud.  Hopefully it stays wrong.  

I told you nothing was gonna change 

[Snowlover76]

i think it is safe to say that most of SE NE wont see any measurable snow for the month of Dec 

[james1976]

[Minny_Weather]

i think it is safe to say that most of SE NE wont see any measurable snow for the month of Dec 

Oh my god.

[hlcater]

EPS has turned significantly snowier across the next 10 days in spite of the OP doing nothing. 

 

12z today. 

 

http://wx.graphics/models/ecmwf/2017121212/conus/eps_acc_snow_conus_360.png

 

00z yesterday

 

http://wx.graphics/models/ecmwf/2017121100/conus/eps_acc_snow_conus_360.png

[james1976]

i think it is safe to say that most of SE NE wont see any measurable snow for the month of Dec

Whats your prediction for jan-feb?

[NEJeremy]

Whats your prediction for jan-feb?

He's already claimed 2-4" TOTAL for the winter

[jaster220]

Whats your prediction for jan-feb?

 

My prediction for his prediction: More of the same

[Minny_Weather]

Whats your prediction for jan-feb?

SE NE will get nothing, not even any shortwave troughs. First snowless Winter in history for Lincoln.

 

 

Also, Hitler will be resurrected and America will turn Socialist.

[Snowlover76]

Oh my god.

im serious.  

[Hawkeye]

EPS has turned significantly snowier across the next 10 days in spite of the OP doing nothing. 

 

Yes, the EPS is showing a much better pattern beyond day 10, similar to the GFS.  Here is the latest EPS city chart for Cedar Rapids.  I love this new feature added by Ryan Maue.

 

http://wx.graphics/models/ecmwf/2017121212/city/KCID_2017121212_forecast_EPS_precip_360.png

[mlgamer]

Also, Hitler will be resurrected and America will turn Socialist.

 

Speaking of Hitler, did you know that Joseph Goebbels (Hitler's Minister of Propaganda) was the first grammar Nazi?

 

Winter is just getting started...too early to give up.

[bud2380]

Back to back great runs by the GFS.  Lock it in.  Guaranteed white Christmas for all.  

 

[james1976]

Back to back great runs by the GFS. Lock it in. Guaranteed white Christmas for all.

 

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Was just coming here to post this.

Pattern change is looking pretty serious.

[james1976]

Havent seen maps like that in foreverrrrrrr.

[indianajohn]

Back to back great runs by the GFS.  Lock it in.  Guaranteed white Christmas for all.  

 

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sure hope they legalize what College of Dupage is smoking!!!

[GDR]

Wow look at chi town!! Tom will be buried.. I’ll take the 24 also

[Snowlover76]

meh 

[indianajohn]

Havent seen maps like that in foreverrrrrrr.

probably since the GHD blizzard....

[hlcater]

probably since the GHD blizzard....

Nah, FH384 maps like that come out all the time. Probably 1/100 anywhere close to verification.

[Jaycee]

meh

Dude seriously, what is going on with you?? I thought it was kinda funny at first, but its getting crazy now. I live in the same town as you, and i throw my share of shade but COME ONNN. Imagine if you saw someone like OKwx doing that, youd probly tell him to stfu or atleasr be annoyed, but he doesnt. So just chill breh. When theres no weather to track, just go fill your time doing something else and youll figure out that it doesnt even matter really.

 

How bout this, if it does snow more than 6" by february, LNK_WX and i get to make a flesh flute snow-sculpture in your yard. If it doesnt, you can throw dust in my face from the blowing dust advisories.

[Minny_Weather]

Dude seriously, what is going on with you?? I thought it was kinda funny at first, but its getting crazy now. I live in the same town as you, and i throw my share of shade but COME ONNN. Imagine if you saw someone like OKwx doing that, youd probly tell him to stfu or atleasr be annoyed, but he doesnt. So just chill breh. When theres no weather to track, just go fill your time doing something else and youll figure out that it doesnt even matter really.

 

How bout this, if it does snow more than 6" by february, LNK_WX and i get to make a flesh flute snow-sculpture in your yard. If it doesnt, you can throw dust in my face from the blowing dust advisories.

I will join in here. You can throw dust in my face too.

[indianajohn]

I will join in here. You can throw dust in my face too.

 

Dude seriously, what is going on with you?? I thought it was kinda funny at first, but its getting crazy now. I live in the same town as you, and i throw my share of shade but COME ONNN. Imagine if you saw someone like OKwx doing that, youd probly tell him to stfu or atleasr be annoyed, but he doesnt. So just chill breh. When theres no weather to track, just go fill your time doing something else and youll figure out that it doesnt even matter really.

 

How bout this, if it does snow more than 6" by february, LNK_WX and i get to make a flesh flute snow-sculpture in your yard. If it doesnt, you can throw dust in my face from the blowing dust advisories.

why don't we all relax and smoke some of that stuff Dupage College is smoking when they posted the GFS and hope for the best.