SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 At least with screaming westerlies I can go check my rain gauge a few times a day... Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Day 9http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017120400/216/500h_anom.na.png That looks like it could be quite a marine push with that little ULL crashing the hot ridge. Going to have be careful that day on the boat... get off the lake earlier than usual. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 00z CMC nothing like the GFS. Block much stronger and no little cut-off system moving in from the southwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 00z GFS Day 10http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017120400/240/500h_anom.na.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Basically no model agreement after day 6 I'd say. Anything could happen. Westerlies breaking through, Block breaking down slightly or reorganizing a few times, or perhaps retrogression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Basically no model agreement after day 6 I'd say. Anything could happen. Westerlies breaking through, Block breaking down slightly or reorganizing a few times, or perhaps retrogression.They all look ridgy. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastexpat Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Basically no model agreement after day 6 I'd say. Anything could happen. Westerlies breaking through, Block breaking down slightly or reorganizing a few times, or perhaps retrogression. Seems like there is model agreement to me. Maybe the fine details are a little off but there seems to be consensus of an unrelenting blocking ridge right over us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Day 11 for no reason, but that eastern trough and arctic air is shifting due west and very quickly. Pretty weird. Never makes it of course.http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2017120400/276/500h_anom.na.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Seems like there is model agreement to me. Maybe the fine details are a little off but there seems to be consensus of an unrelenting blocking ridge right over us. Sure, through about day 6, then afterwards solutions diverge, but there are clear differences with the overall 500mb pattern, energy moving off Asia, trough placement extending south of Aleutians, how far east to 140 W line systems spin up, block amplification, how far the axis is pushed eastward, and displacement of Greenland Block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastexpat Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Day 11 for no reason, but that eastern trough and arctic air is shifting due west and very quickly. Pretty weird. Never makes it of course. Because the ridge over Greenland begins to strengthen right when the ridge over us begins to weaken. The cold pool over the east has quite a bit of cyclonic momentum during this period, resulting in rather quick westward propogation/expansion (the propogation being aided by it being dense cold/dry air)... it has nowhere to go but west given the ridge behaviour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 00z CMC Some retrogression Day 7 Day 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Because the ridge over Greenland begins to strengthen right when the ridge over us begins to weaken. The cold pool over the east has quite a bit of cyclonic momentum during this period, resulting in rather quick westward propogation/expansion (the propogation being aided by it being dense cold/dry air)... it has nowhere to go but west given the ridge behaviour.Yep, exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 YUCK Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Well, that was fun, said no one ever. 00z ECMWF in 42 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Down to 30. Could I see my first 20s of the season? 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 **** me in the ************* goat *** while Matt Lauer ***** his **** with a rusty golf club. I don't like these models!!! 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 32 here already, roads are iced up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 31F here. I’m assuming it has cleared out after dark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 00z GEFS through day 12 sure looks like a barrel of fun, or barrel of monkeys, or barrel of fun monkeys.... 00z ECMWF in 23 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 We're transitioning into perhaps the longest cold pool and east wind episode in a long, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Well, that was fun, said no one ever.**** me in the ************* goat *** while Matt Lauer ***** his **** with a rusty golf club. Where are the air stagnation enthusiasts?? This is your moment. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Where are the air stagnation enthusiasts?? This is your moment.Albuterol stock should be on the rise. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Where are the air stagnation enthusiasts?? This is your moment.Very exciting times ahead for those in Moses Lake to Hermiston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 32 here already, roads are iced up Looks like your roses have finally met their match. Expecting to see toasted rose pictures in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Looks like your roses have finally met their match. Expecting to see toasted rose pictures in the morning.Wrong Timmy, how’s your drought? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Looks like your roses have finally met their match. Expecting to see toasted rose pictures in the morning.What’s your temp at down in the big city tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Looks like your roses have finally met their match. Expecting to see toasted rose pictures in the morning.If you're going to troll, at least troll the right person. 33F here right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 00z ECMWF Day 2http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2017120400/048/500h_anom.na.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Day 3 Beastly looking blockhttp://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2017120400/072/500h_anom.na.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Looks like your roses have finally met their match. Expecting to see toasted rose pictures in the morning. Maybe... its still 37 here with some clouds. If not tonight... tomorrow night is a lock. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Where are the air stagnation enthusiasts?? This is your moment. I think Jesse and Jim are smog enthusiasts in the cold season. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Kind of interesting that the control models on both the EPS and GEFS had really good runs today. The 12z EPS and the 0z GEFS. I think we are getting close to meaningful changes showing up on the operationals. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Day 4http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2017120400/096/500h_anom.na.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Kind of interesting that the control models on both the EPS and GEFS had really good runs today. The 12z EPS and the 0z GEFS. I think we are getting close to meaningful changes showing up on the operationals. About this time in 1980 we were heading into a nice little event up here. It would have generated high hopes for the winter ahead! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Kind of interesting that the control models on both the EPS and GEFS had really good runs today. The 12z EPS and the 0z GEFS. I think we are getting close to meaningful changes showing up on the operationals.I agree I see some signs of that too. Cautiously optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mann Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 (.. cross-reference.) http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/1648-fall-2017-colder-air-mass-movement-and-distribution-projections/?p=278263 Quote --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Kind of interesting that the control models on both the EPS and GEFS had really good runs today. The 12z EPS and the 0z GEFS. I think we are getting close to meaningful changes showing up on the operationals.What are the “control” models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Day 5http://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/ecmwf/2017120400/120/500h_anom.na.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 What’s your temp at down in the big city tonight? Currently cloudy and 39F, I doubt it drops below freezing here tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Toss this Euro run. Waaay too much SW dig in the rear quadrant there. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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