High Desert Mat! Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Too bad this all this didn't show up in the heart of winter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 PDX NWS on the Wednesday system: "ECMWF continues to show a low sliding down the coast on Tuesday,though it now is coming in Tuesday evening. The GFS continues toshow a low much farther offshore. If the ECMWF proves true, therewill be the potential for some snow along the coastline mainly latein the day on Tuesday. Will have another system drop down out ofBritish Columbia on Wednesday, but low confidence in the detailswith this system because the ECMWF is now showing a defined lowpressure system with more moisture, while the GFS continues to showa weak shortwave with limited moisture. The main concern if we doget a system like the ECMWF is showing is what track it will takecoming down the Coast, with the potential for another round of lowelevation snow, at least at the start." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 With how nice the long term upper level pattern appears and how many snow chances the models have been consistently showing, it'll be very sad if we come out of this with nothing to show for it. Just 2-4 inches regionwide isn't too much to ask for right? No it's not too much Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 18z RGEM Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleweatherguy Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 National Weather Service Seattle WA 358 PM PST Fri Feb 16 2018 .SYNOPSIS...Windy conditions and heavy mountain snow are expected Saturday as a deepening surface low tracks southeast down Vancouver Island and then across to northeast Washington. On Sunday, a modified arctic cold front will move southward through the area, bringing the possibility of lowland snow, as well as strong wind. It will be followed from late Sunday through Tuesday with dry weather but some of the coldest air so far this winter. Another system could slide in from the northwest around next Wednesday or Thursday. && .SHORT TERM...Active and potentially impactful weather coming up this weekend, first on Saturday in the form of wind and heavy mountain snow, then on Sunday with the potential for lowland snow and strong northeast-north Fraser Outflow wind. Coldest air mass of the winter is expected from Sunday night through Tuesday morning. On Saturday, a deepening low pressure center will move southeast down Vancouver Island, then track east near Vancouver B.C. and continue deepening as it moves to northeast Washington. At it closest approach, the central pressure of the low will be near 998 mb. Strengthening or deepening lows typically come with more lift and greater impact. The low will be preceded by a large swath of warm advection lift, while northwest flow aloft is a great direction for enhancing orographic lift and snowfall totals over the Cascades, including the main highway passes. Some of the heaviest snow totals in the passes come in this type of pattern. A Winter Storm Warning has been issued for the Cascades from late tonight through Saturday night. Nearly two feet of snow is forecast at the passes in 24 hours. Avalanche danger will be elevated given the the heavy amount of snow and strong wind in exposed locales. Southwest gradients will really pick up as the low makes it closest approach around mid-day Saturday. Models bring the HQM-SEA gradient to around +4 to +4.5 mb, and the UIL-BLI gradient should reach near +5 mb around mid-day Saturday. 18z GFS MOS peaks the sustained wind at Shelton, Tacoma Narrows, Tacoma McChord, Sea- Tac, and West Point (Discovery Park) at 33, 28, 30, 27, and 34 knots respectively around mid-day Saturday. With 925 mb winds of 40-50 knots and cold advection during this period, wind gusts of 45-50 mph are totally reasonable for the South and Central Sound regions. Further north, a strong westerly surge is expected through the Strait during the afternoon. NW flow aloft favors such surges impinging on land areas on the U.S. side of the Strait and the Admiralty Inlet area. Given all these things, have gone with a round of Wind Advisories for tomorrow. Would not be surprised if one or two zones pick up a few stronger gusts. After the low exits east on Saturday night, a cold front will spread out of B.C. into Western Washington on Sunday morning, aided by strong Fraser Outflow wind. The Bellingham to Williams Lake gradient could exceed -20 mb on Sunday morning, making this a strong outflow event. May eventually need a High Wind Warning for Western Whatcom County on Sunday. This pattern will cause a sharp modified arctic cold front to slip southward. The air aloft will be cold, so low-level convergence near the frontal boundary and some instability could support snow showers as the front moves south. On average up and down the I-5 corridor, the official forecast has about 1 inch of snow centered around Sunday morning. In reality, some places will see more, and others will get none. GFS ensemble mean has about 1 inch of snow at SEA early Sunday. The Port Angeles area is most likely to get snow, given northeast wind upsloping along the north-facing side of the Olympic Mtns. The official forecast has 1 inch of snow near the water there, but 3-6 inches above 500 feet along the Strait. With all of the cold, dry continental air pouring out from the interior of B.C., the air mass will dry out quickly later Sunday, and the last showers will end over the Cascades on Sunday night. Coldest air mass of the winter is expected, with Monday night being the coldest. Should be a widespread hard freeze. .LONG TERM...Northwest flow aloft will continue from Tuesday through next Friday, keeping temps below normal. A system will dive southeast around Wednesday or Thursday. The air mass will moderate a bit as clouds and precip spread in, and weak onshore flow develops. Still, a rain/snow mix is forecast over the lowlands. QPF is modest, so only minor snow accumulation is expected on higher hills near the Cascades. Haner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Huge earthquake in mexico. 7.5. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I see NWS Portland put out a Special Weather Statement regarding the potential for lowland snow. Why didn't the NWS Seattle do the same? I feel like us Sounders always get left out of the pro-met-weenie excitement.Poor portlanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I see NWS Portland put out a Special Weather Statement regarding the potential for lowland snow. Why didn't the NWS Seattle do the same? I feel like us Sounders always get left out of the pro-met-weenie excitement.Heh heh. This oughta trigger an oldie but a goodie. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokaneekidz Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I see NWS Portland put out a Special Weather Statement regarding the potential for lowland snow. Why didn't the NWS Seattle do the same? I feel like us Sounders always get left out of the pro-met-weenie excitement.We are closer to Canadia so snow is expected and if you don't know how to do curling or drink Kokanee beer you should go back to weather weenie ville (keep portland weird) !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DareDuck Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Too bad this all this didn't show up in the heart of winter.This won’t be very special for you and me. Cold and dry? That’s normal. Sounds like just slightly cool nights are ahead. We reached 7 under a warmer airmass last week. Nothing is even showing us reaching that again. Quote Bend, ORElevation: 3550' Snow History:Nov: 1"Dec: .5"Jan: 1.9"Feb: 12.7"Mar: 1.0"Total: 17.1" 2016/2017: 70"2015/2016: 34"Average: ~25" 2017/2018 Winter TempsLowest Min: 1F on 2/23Lowest Max: 23F on 12/24, 2/22Lows <32: 87Highs <32: 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Huge earthquake in mexico. 7.5.Has to be a good sign for Sunday. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Pretty nice that the 850 temp anomaly at day 11 is still -7/-8c on the GEFS. Even better, look at the Midwest/East Coast torch! Yippee! Earth changes occurring. Earthquakes in Mexico and inland USA flooded with warm gulf water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleweatherguy Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I see NWS Portland put out a Special Weather Statement regarding the potential for lowland snow. Why didn't the NWS Seattle do the same? I feel like us Sounders always get left out of the pro-met-weenie excitement.They want to deal with the windstorm first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 The SWS seems pretty reasonable to me. "...LOWLAND SNOW POSSIBLE LATE SUNDAY......COLDEST TEMPERATURES OF THE WINTER LIKELY EARLY NEXT WEEK...- Snow expected to mix in with rain showers down to sea level onSunday for all areas including the coast and interiorlowlands...including the Columbia River Gorge and Hood River.Any accumulation expected to remain 1000 feet and above duringthe day Sunday.- Light snow accumulations are possible Sunday night, butshowery nature of precipitation will lead to scattered areas ofaccumulation and no accumulation.- Temperatures will fall quickly Sunday night which will likelycause wet roads to refreeze, even where snow does not fall.- Temperatures expected to fall into the low 20s in the citiesand into the upper teens in the outlying areas on Monday night." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 No Tsunami warning, Tim is safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 No Tsunami warning, Tim is safeWhew! 82 with a dewpoint of 64 and partly sunny at my location. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Whew! 82 with a dewpoint of 64 and partly sunny at my location.I'm confused. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmet Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 One interesting thing to note is that the hi-resolution regional models like the NAM and RGEM are colder than the ECMWF on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Whew! 82 with a dewpoint of 64 and partly sunny at my location.Yuck. To hot, you will melt. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Yuck. To hot, you will melt.So wonderful. Heaven. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Pretty nice that the 850 temp anomaly at day 11 is still -7/-8c on the GEFS. Even better, look at the Midwest/East Coast torch! Yippee! It was 70*F here at 2AM last night. Lol. And it’ll be snowing by tomorrow afternoon. Double lol. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 I'm confused.Down slopping... Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just posted this is the contest thread: Here's my current thinking. I think the Arctic Front is going to dump more snow than expected. Upwards of 4 to 6 inches in even the lowest elevations. Solid snow cover will keep highs close to freezing on Monday. Then another round on Tuesday night and Wednesday with the BC slider. This isn't my final prediction and I might change it tonight. KSEA Sun: 38/26Mon: 35/24Tue: 39/26Wed: 40/33 KPDX Sun: 42/27Mon: 34/19Tue: 40/27Wed: 37/29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 00z NAM looks promising so far. Edit: Eh, not too different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Nam looks dryer to me. Thw precip rates just look anemic. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 In all the years i have watched weather around here I've never seen a low take thid track with arctic air near by and piget sound not get a decent snowfall in alot of places. Will be very interesting to watch it all unfold. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 00z NAM looks promising so far. Edit: Eh, not too different.Nice!!! Edit: Eh. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbolin Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 In all the years i have watched weather around here I've never seen a low take thid track with arctic air near by and piget sound not get a decent snowfall in alot of places. Will be very interesting to watch it all unfold.It'll all end in tears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Going to be a fun weekend!! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 The NAM doesn't look nearly as good up here. Was showing 5 to 7 inch totals throughout Victoria but now it seems like the precipitation is centred a little north and Victoria will be dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 The NAM doesn't look nearly as good up here. Was showing 5 to 7 inch totals throughout Victoria but now it seems like the precipitation is centred a little north and Victoria will be dry. It's just the NAM though, we can ignore it if we don't like what it has to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 It's just the NAM though, we can ignore it if we don't like what it has to say.If only the Euro was like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiedog Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Certainly looks like the best shot at a real snow event but temps look suspect. us_model-en-087-0_modez_2018021612_129_1256_241.pngus_model-en_modez_2018021612_129_494_155.pngus_model-en-087-0_modez_2018021612_129_494_488.pngMay start out as snow but I think southery flow kicks in fairly fast so I'm thinking whatever snow occurs it may be short lived. Hope I'm wrong but it's usually what happens, esp without Gorge outflow to support the cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 36 hrs away from the event, and the models are still all over the place with snowfall. Whaddya know. This is one of the most fun aspects about weather...the times when no one really knows how it will play out until it's go time. Grab some popcorn for Sunday! 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbolin Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 36 hrs away from the event, and the models are still all over the place with snowfall. Whaddya know. This is one of the most fun aspects about weather...the times when no one really knows how it will play out until it's go time. Grab some popcorn for Sunday!Xmas even setup ring a bell? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just posted this is the contest thread: Here's my current thinking. I think the Arctic Front is going to dump more snow than expected. Upwards of 4 to 6 inches in even the lowest elevations. Solid snow cover will keep highs close to freezing on Monday. Then another round on Tuesday night and Wednesday with the BC slider. This isn't my final prediction and I might change it tonight. KSEA Sun: 38/26Mon: 35/24Tue: 39/26Wed: 40/33 KPDX Sun: 42/27Mon: 34/19Tue: 40/27Wed: 37/294 to 6 inches? Not a bad little frontal snowsquall... 1 Quote "Avoiding unwanted weather is a key element of happiness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Well Lindsey took a page from Tiger's book of failures tonight/tomorrow in Korea. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 00Z Icon shows a clear convergence zone setting up somewhere just northwest of Seattle. Some people might get lucky. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Xmas eve setup ring a bell? Exactly. That was a lot of fun to watch unfold. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic Front Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Exactly. That was a lot of fun to watch unfold.If you call missing out on a white Christmas by miles fun, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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