TT-SEA Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just trying to bring some balance and tap the brakes on the situation. GFS ensembles not quite as good in the long range. Long range is sort of irrelevant with an arctic blast coming within 5 days. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just a word of warning... Currently 33 so I’m safe...for now.LMAO that would so be me.... 00z ECMWF in 12 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just trying to bring some balance and tap the brakes on the situation. GFS ensembles not quite as good in the long range.Even if we get one day of snow and 24hrs below freezing it will still be 1000% better than anything that has happened so far this season! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Pretty minute differences, really. At least for the mid range. Nexus of the coldest air is definitely north and east though. Block doesn't tilt as much. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 It’s interesting that Andrew is showing maps that don’t look as good and nobody gets on his case but if Tim was doing that people would be going nuts on him... Anyway my grass is currently crunchy! Chilly out!Except Andrew usually just posts his interpretation of maps rather than the map itself, which you would think would upset more people than someone posting a map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Im a little worried about the trends of moderating rather quickly after the first shot. GFS, FV3 and GEM all show that tonight. Probably wise to focus on this. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Long range is sort of irrelevant with an arctic blast coming within 5 days. An arctic blast is something like Feb 89', Dec 90', Dec 13'. Don't see that happening. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Best case kind of reminds me of March 1989. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Best case kind of reminds me of March 1989. Over a foot of snow here with that one... and a 30/17 day. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Arctic blast for PDX is 850s -12c or colder and typically 850s cool from the northeast to southwest(backdoor blast). We can see onshore flow as cold as -10c to -11c in very cold air masses dropping in from the north-northwest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 OMG this thing has some cold air to work with. Even the oprational GFS show intense cold making it to the Candian border and has improved drastically over the past few runs. The FV3 is insanely cold. The 0z GFS ensemble drops the mean to -10 over Seattle now! 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Best case kind of reminds me of March 1989.I had a foot of snow and school was cancelled! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Probably wise to focus on this. Still plenty of ensemble spread so it could easily trend better again. The GEM is trending better overall. Overall the trends were positive today, but there are still some warning signs that this is not a lock. I am encouraged, but wary. It is only Tuesday night. I hope I am being overly cautious, but how many times have we been through this over the years? 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 FV3 is pretty snowy too on Monday, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Best case kind of reminds me of March 1989. Probably one of the most legit events that gets most overlooked. Mainly, I imagine, because it had to follow up on the heels of one of the greatest Arctic Blasts/Polar Vortex Invasions ever. Brought a 33/22 day to SEA with 7" of snow. On March 2. Had it happened a month earlier, probably would have been something like 26/15. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Im a little worried about the trends of moderating rather quickly after the first shot. GFS, FV3 and GEM all show that tonight. There's nothing to scour out the cold though. FWIW the 12z ECMWF suite of models all showed a reload at day 10 or so. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 FV-3 is still great, but clearly not as great as the 18z run. Hour 144 And then moderates much quicker. Hour 210 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Still plenty of ensemble spread so it could easily trend better again. The GEM is trending better overall. Overall the trends were positive today, but there are still some warning signs that this is not a lock. I am encouraged, but wary. It is only Tuesday night. I hope I am being overly cautious, but how many times have we been through this over the years? I'm feeling pretty confident for the northern half of WA at this point. The drastic improvement in the 0z ensemble carries a lot of weight. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 There's nothing to scour out the cold though. FWIW the 12z ECMWF suite of models all showed a reload at day 10 or so.Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 FV-3 is still great, but clearly not as great as the 18z run. Hour 144 And then moderates much quicker. Hour 210 As I said there is nothing there to scour out the cold. Looks cold and dry on both runs after the main event. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Comparing the 12z GFS ensembles to the 00z is unbelievable. The long range is about the same if not slightly better on the 00z actually... 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 FV-3 is still great, but clearly not as great as the 18z run. Hour 144 And then moderates much quicker. Hour 210 Nice! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 As I said there is nothing there to scour out the cold. Looks cold and dry on both runs after the main event. Yeah though day time highs would probably recover pretty well into the 40s. We are on the last gasp of inversion season now. Even high temps in Feb. 89' bounced back pretty quickly in W. Washington. Lows would be solidly cold though you are right. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 I'd like to point out that once again the 18z did not "buck the trend" or do something crazy out of left field. It took measured steps toward the Euro that the 0z then continued. It's fun when Tim is wrong. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Do you have any hope that Victoria will see some snow on Sunday night? If it's anything like the models are showing now, it's looking pretty likely we'll see some snow Sunday afternoon/night; hard not to with that amount of instability. Whether it's a fraction of an inch or a dump will come down to the fine details; we probably won't have a clue until it's 24 hours out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Probably one of the most legit events that gets most overlooked. Mainly, I imagine, because it had to follow up on the heels of one of the greatest Arctic Blasts/Polar Vortex Invasions ever. Brought a 33/22 day to SEA with 7" of snow. On March 2. Had it happened a month earlier, probably would have been something like 26/15.I was in Bellingham then, and liked the March event more. We had way more snow with that than the big blast. That was just dry, cold, and windy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 An error occurred You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day Same thing always happens to me since I'm too generous with my likes. I just go unlike posts on previous pages lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Sunday is still 7 days away so I'm not gonna get excited yet. Fun dialogues to read today though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 I'm feeling pretty confident for the northern half of WA at this point. The drastic improvement in the 0z ensemble carries a lot of weight.8-15 inches will fall over King County. Sunday only 5 days from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Sunday is still 7 days away so I'm not gonna get excited yet. Fun dialogues to read today though.? Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 00z ECMWF Day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Sunday is still 7 days away so I'm not gonna get excited yet. Fun dialogues to read today though. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Sunday is still 7 days away so I'm not gonna get excited yet. Fun dialogues to read today though. Ummm...It is almost Wednesday... Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Sunday is still 7 days away so I'm not gonna get excited yet. Fun dialogues to read today though. It's 5 days now. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 00z ECMWF Day 1 Buckle up. Interestingly. The FV-3 shows sub 492 thickness over Minnesota at hour 210. I'm sure they are thrilled about that. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Holy crap! The Candian is worlds better than the 12z. I think this might actually hppen! Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Welcome friend. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Sunday is still 7 days away so I'm not gonna get excited yet. Fun dialogues to read today though.Are u high? Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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