Jump to content

January 2019 Weather in the Pacific Northwest


Requiem

Recommended Posts

Just trying to bring some balance and tap the brakes on the situation. GFS ensembles not quite as good in the long range. 

 

 

Long range is sort of irrelevant with an arctic blast coming within 5 days.    ;)

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just trying to bring some balance and tap the brakes on the situation. GFS ensembles not quite as good in the long range.

Even if we get one day of snow and 24hrs below freezing it will still be 1000% better than anything that has happened so far this season!

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Pretty minute differences, really. At least for the mid range.

 

Nexus of the coldest air is definitely north and east though. Block doesn't tilt as much.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It’s interesting that Andrew is showing maps that don’t look as good and nobody gets on his case but if Tim was doing that people would be going nuts on him...

 

Anyway my grass is currently crunchy! Chilly out!

Except Andrew usually just posts his interpretation of maps rather than the map itself, which you would think would upset more people than someone posting a map.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Long range is sort of irrelevant with an arctic blast coming within 5 days.    ;)

 

An arctic blast is something like Feb 89', Dec 90', Dec 13'. Don't see that happening. 

  • Like 1

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

OMG this thing has some cold air to work with.  Even the oprational GFS show intense cold making it to the Candian border and has improved drastically over the past few runs.  The FV3 is insanely cold.  The 0z GFS ensemble drops the mean to -10 over Seattle now!

  • Like 1

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Probably wise to focus on this.

 

Still plenty of ensemble spread so it could easily trend better again. The GEM is trending better overall. Overall the trends were positive today, but there are still some warning signs that this is not a lock. I am encouraged, but wary. It is only Tuesday night. I hope I am being overly cautious, but how many times have we been through this over the years? 

  • Like 1

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Best case kind of reminds me of March 1989.

 

Probably one of the most legit events that gets most overlooked. Mainly, I imagine, because it had to follow up on the heels of one of the greatest Arctic Blasts/Polar Vortex Invasions ever.

 

Brought a 33/22 day to SEA with 7" of snow. On March 2. Had it happened a month earlier, probably would have been something like 26/15.

A forum for the end of the world.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Im a little worried about the trends of moderating rather quickly after the first shot. GFS, FV3 and GEM all show that tonight.

 

There's nothing to scour out the cold though.  FWIW the 12z ECMWF suite of models all showed a reload at day 10 or so.

  • Like 2

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

FV-3 is still great, but clearly not as great as the 18z run.

 

Hour 144

 

fv3p_mslp_pcpn_frzn_namer_25.png

fv3p_mslp_pcpn_frzn_namer_24.png

 

And then moderates much quicker. 

 

Hour 210

 

fv3p_mslp_pcpn_frzn_namer_36.png

fv3p_mslp_pcpn_frzn_namer_35.png

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Still plenty of ensemble spread so it could easily trend better again. The GEM is trending better overall. Overall the trends were positive today, but there are still some warning signs that this is not a lock. I am encouraged, but wary. It is only Tuesday night. I hope I am being overly cautious, but how many times have we been through this over the years? 

 

I'm feeling pretty confident for the northern half of WA at this point.  The drastic improvement in the 0z ensemble carries a lot of weight.

  • Like 1

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

FV-3 is still great, but clearly not as great as the 18z run.

 

Hour 144

 

fv3p_mslp_pcpn_frzn_namer_25.png

fv3p_mslp_pcpn_frzn_namer_24.png

 

And then moderates much quicker. 

 

Hour 210

 

fv3p_mslp_pcpn_frzn_namer_36.png

fv3p_mslp_pcpn_frzn_namer_35.png

 

As I said there is nothing there to scour out the cold.  Looks cold and dry on both runs after the main event.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Comparing the 12z GFS ensembles to the 00z is unbelievable. The long range is about the same if not slightly better on the 00z actually...

  • Like 2

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As I said there is nothing there to scour out the cold.  Looks cold and dry on both runs after the main event.

 

Yeah though day time highs would probably recover pretty well into the 40s. We are on the last gasp of inversion season now. Even high temps in Feb. 89' bounced back pretty quickly in W. Washington. Lows would be solidly cold though you are right. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Do you have any hope that Victoria will see some snow on Sunday night?

 

If it's anything like the models are showing now, it's looking pretty likely we'll see some snow Sunday afternoon/night; hard not to with that amount of instability. Whether it's a fraction of an inch or a dump will come down to the fine details; we probably won't have a clue until it's 24 hours out.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Probably one of the most legit events that gets most overlooked. Mainly, I imagine, because it had to follow up on the heels of one of the greatest Arctic Blasts/Polar Vortex Invasions ever.

 

Brought a 33/22 day to SEA with 7" of snow. On March 2. Had it happened a month earlier, probably would have been something like 26/15.

I was in Bellingham then, and liked the March event more. We had way more snow with that than the big blast. That was just dry, cold, and windy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sunday is still 7 days away so I'm not gonna get excited yet. Fun dialogues to read today though.

 

Ummm...It is almost Wednesday...

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sunday is still 7 days away so I'm not gonna get excited yet. Fun dialogues to read today though.

 

It's 5 days now.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

00z ECMWF Day 1

 

500h_anom.na.png

 

Buckle up.

 

Interestingly. The FV-3 shows sub 492 thickness over Minnesota at hour 210. I'm sure they are thrilled about that.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Holy crap!  The Candian is worlds better than the 12z.  I think this might actually hppen!

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

 

Welcome friend.

  • Like 1

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

×
×
  • Create New...