May 2020 Weather discussion for the PNW

[Phil]

OT again, but the impossible just became possible..DCA actually broke a big league cold record. From *1877*.

 

Never thought I’d use those words together in a sentence in my life. Ever. FWIW, the station was also in a colder spot away from the river back then.

 

2020 is bonkers.

[Jesse]

Y’all got him all kinds of riled up. Tim style!

Honestly in retrospect I thought it kinda read like and old you talking to a young me.

[Jesse]

Official low of 58 at HIO.

 

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=pqr&sid=KHIO&num=25&raw=0&banner=off

[TacomaWaWx]

Low of 57 in Tacoma this morning...same temp out in ollala this morning. 57 is the warmest low of the year so far.

[TT-SEA]

69 at SEA already at 7 a.m. after a low of 62.

 

66 out here now after a low of 62.

[TT-SEA]

SEA is at +3.9 for May... BLI is +3.4 and HQM is at +4.2

[Farmboy]

I’m rooting for the 1938 record.

A much more comfortable 33.6°F here currently.

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62/graph/2020-05-9/2020-05-9/daily

??

 

Try spending a couple hours outside in a t-shirt and shorts and tell us how comfortable that is..

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Pretty cloudy already. Very mild in the mid-60s, but I doubt we hit the mid-80s again. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Next weekend is looking like a washout. 

[TT-SEA]

Next weekend is looking like a washout. 

 

 

00Z ECMWF showed all of Saturday being warm and dry and Sunday too up here.   It keeps everything more suppressed and negatively tilted.    But it seems to do that all the time and then ends up more progressive in the end.

 

GFS backed off a little for Saturday... but I am sure it will end up being right with its wetter solution.  

[MossMan]

00Z ECMWF showed all of Saturday being warm and dry and Sunday too up here. It keeps everything more suppressed and negatively tilted. But it seems to do that all the time and then ends up more progressive in the end.

 

GFS backed off a little for Saturday... but I am sure it will end up being right with its wetter solution.

I’m rooting for the dry and warm outcome. Shocker of the day!

[Jesse]

Next weekend is looking like a washout.

Can’t wait. The pollen is out of control out there.

[TacomaWaWx]

71 here currently...might actually get warmer here today than yesterday’s 80 degrees. Pretty warm outside for 10:30am.

[GeorgeWx]

Kelso hit 90!

High clouds kept Portland under 90.

[Jesse]

12z GFS ensembles. Looking generally cool and unsettled, but wouldn’t surprise me to see that bump next weekend get more prominent as a break between troughs.

 

[Jesse]

High clouds kept Portland under 90.

Probably more a combination of east winds and the airmass itself not really being all that hot. I think Kelso was the only official station on the west side that hit 90. They might have cashed in from some well positioned downsloping.

[Jesse]

So according to the official record, it's like that balmy overnight low of 65 never happened. Somehow that just seems wrong and unfair to me. Residents of Hillsboro who endured a such a balmy night should have something in the official record book to show for it.

I get the sentiment, but this is how they’ve been doing it for years so if it changed now it would kind of throw off comparisons to past records. There is no doubt there have been many times a similar thing has happened with warm overnight temps being erased by midnight lows.

 

And if we did that, we would have to start recording cold afternoon highs on days the temp spiked late in the evening/toward midnight too. That happens a lot in the winter when south winds overtake offshore flow. It starts getting hard to know where to draw the line.

[GeorgeWx]

I’m rooting for the dry and warm outcome. Shocker of the day!

Why not wet and warm?

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Ended up with a 61F low here last night, looks like the NE winds continued all night. Could be another shot at a daily record today at YYJ.

[TacomaWaWx]

Lots of places in the mid 70s at 11am with a few upper 70s further from the water in western WA...73 now here.

[MossMan]

Why not wet and warm?

Would rather not be doing outdoor projects like painting in the rain.

[Jesse]

[El_Nina]

73 currently with pretty still conditions, not blustery like yesterday.

Excited to track some systems this week.

[Jesse]

You're right of course -- a line has to be drawn somewhere and a consistent method adopted, and the midnight-midnight scheme is probably the only sane way to do it. I'm just saying that it has a shortcoming, which is that epic hot nights (as well as cold days) are sometimes lost in the statistical record, and that's too bad. Part of the point of preserving a record is so that people saying "I remember it was really hot that night -- just how hot was it?" can look it up and get an answer, but in this case the number they get from the record won't match the sensible weather they experienced.

 

I get what you're saying. Most major stations keep records of hourly obs too, so if they did a little digging they'd be able to verify it.

 

And something tells me if they are the kind of person to remember a hot night from years ago and wonder when it was/how warm it was, then they are also the kind of person who would be fine putting in a little extra effort to find said data.

[MossMan]

[Deweydog]

Breezy!

[Jesse]

Good lord. Perhaps you should move to a wetter climate. Rains a lot in Miami...You should try it out!

I would hate the humidity.

 

A coolish and wet climate with beautiful, temperate summers like ours is perfect for me, thank you. As long as it doesn’t keep trending in a less mossy direction.

[MossMan]

I would hate the humidity.

 

A coolish and wet climate with beautiful, temperate summers like ours is perfect for me, thank you. As long as it doesn’t keep trending in a less mossy direction.

I think we will all be okay around here.

[Jesse]

I think we will all be okay around here.

All the dead trees and wildfires say maybe you should just roll with not being able to paint for one weekend.

[MossMan]

The all the dead trees and wildfires say maybe you should just roll with not being able to paint for one weekend.

We had fires and dead trees hundreds of years ago as well.

[Jesse]

We had fires and dead trees hundreds of years ago as well.

Yup, rainy weekends too. The natives would get super pissed when they had to waste a perfectly good Saturday inside, when they could be out waterproofing their longhouses!

[TacomaWaWx]

80 degrees here at 1pm.

[Deweydog]

Day #4 with downslope winds here. Unyousual.

[MossMan]

Up to 80!

[MossMan]

86 degrees with the occasional high cloud passing by. Another beautiful day.

 

The house we moved into last October has whole-home AC. I did not realize how nice that would be until the past few days.

It’s one of the best things ever!!! You will really enjoy it!

[Frontal Snowsquall]

SEA is at +3.9 for May... BLI is +3.4 and HQM is at +4.2

Down here TTD joins HQM in the 4+ club with a +4.1 heading into today.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

[ShawniganLake]

[Front Ranger]

Cold spring.

[Deweydog]