December 2023 Weather in the PNW

[Gradient Keeper]

Good agreement that we see a strong jet stream impact the west coast long range.

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

It’s quickly becoming a NY Jets status season at this point.

And then they go out a crush the Texans 30-6 last week.   So even in a miserable Jets season there are pleasant surprises.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

6 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

That is Tuesday.  

I will just forward interesting maps that aren't cold/snow and have you post them for me.  A couple people seem to have a big problem with me showing a map like the one above even in the short term.  Even though it's interesting and it's and reality.   Something about believing in Santa Claus. 

Sounds like a good idea. Even if these maps are not interesting at all. The most common weather this time of year in our rapidly warming climate is TORCH. 

[TT-SEA]

18 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Sounds like a good idea. Even if these maps are not interesting at all. The most common weather this time of year in our rapidly warming climate is TORCH. 

So we should ignore all weather that you personally don't find interesting?   That gets complicated when people find different things interesting.    Please refrain from talking about rain because its too common around here and I don't find interesting.   So silly.  

[TT-SEA]

44 here this morning... east wind is lighter today.      Looks like fog is just patchy per the Space Needle cam.   SEA is at 37 with a dewpoint of 36 so probably close to fog but the live streaming cam there shows good visibility right now.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

29 at SLE this morning. Hard not to see that as a significant WIN.

[FroYoBro]

19 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

29 at SLE this morning. Hard not to see that as a significant WIN.

Yep, it actually hit 31 here. 

 

WINTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TT-SEA]

Another sunrise alrert.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

7 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

That is Tuesday.  

I will just forward interesting maps that aren't cold/snow and have you post them for me.  A couple people seem to have a big problem with me showing a map like the one above even in the short term.  Even though it's interesting and it's and reality.   Something about believing in Santa Claus. 

Ugggh, good catch on the Tuesday/Wednesday thing.

I would rather model ride for snow, but seeing as how torching is in the model guidance and snow is not….

I do, however, keep forgetting that posting torch maps on a weather forum that 99.9999% of the world does not even know about is what makes torching actually happen. I need to keep my magical powers and how they affect others better in mind. Sorry, all!

[Norwood]

19 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Another sunrise alrert.

It's coming up again!?

[ShawniganLake]

I thought Putin was supposed to be stealing all the cold in the northern hemisphere this winter.  It looks more like there just isn’t any!

 

 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Temps have slipped a few degrees on the 06Z Euro.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Christmas Day 60-burgers also looking unlikely right now.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Temps have slipped a few degrees on the 06Z Euro.

Rain band is slower in lifting north on this run... takes until mid afternoon to get north of the Seattle area and its too late for temps to respond.  

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Christmas Day 60-burgers also looking unlikely right now.

Looks like its fairly sunny though with just some high clouds... at least on the 00Z ECMWF.

[TacomaWx]

Obligatory north bend photo since TIM hasn’t done it yet it looks like. Mountains are not very snowy  

 

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Obligatory north bend photo since TIM hasn’t done it yet it looks like. Mountains are not very snowy  

 

So early!

[Cascadia_Wx]

Got a hard freeze this morning, which was a pleasant surprise. Low of 29 here, coldest of the month so far.
 

It looks like even PDX will dodge a freeze-less December. Looking at the models the other day I was just thinking it was possible they see one, but all it really takes this time of year is a clearer and calmer than expected night.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Christmas Day 60-burgers also looking unlikely right now.

As long as we're the warmest spot in the entire PNW then that's important.

[Deweydog]

49 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Obligatory north bend photo since TIM hasn’t done it yet it looks like. Mountains are not very snowy  

 

Is the one kid doing the HANDS UP DON’T SHOOT?

If so, how 2014 of him… Analog?

[Phil]

1 hour ago, ShawniganLake said:

I thought Putin was supposed to be stealing all the cold in the northern hemisphere this winter.  It looks more like there just isn’t any!

 

 

Now the Salmon in the North Pacific get to score.

And Scandinavia. That Scandi-Kara Sea trough has been the killer w/rt proper wave driving for a wave-2 SSW/North American cold.

If that doesn’t change, game over. No chance.

[ShawniganLake]

9 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

As long as we're the warmest spot in the entire PNW then that's important.

What’s your low for the season.  Victoria Gonzales hasn’t been below 36F.  Victoria harbour hasn’t been below 34F.  

[T-Town]

No fog this morning. Low of 35.8, up to 38.8 now. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Another horrific GFS run. Here is a picture from happier times. Salem, OR 1916.

[TT-SEA]

East wind has totally died now... due to system passing by to the north today.   Looks like it comes back for tomorrow and Monday.  Sun is getting above the high clouds to the east now making for a nice morning.

[RentonHill]

24 minutes ago, Phil said:

Now the Salmon in the North Pacific get to score.

And Scandinavia. That Scandi-Kara Sea trough has been the killer w/rt proper wave driving for a wave-2 SSW/North American cold.

If that doesn’t change, game over. No chance.

That trough hasn’t moved since beginning of October. Crazy

[Deweydog]

25 years ago RIGHT NOW we had retrogression on our minds… and the NWS was getting COLD FEET.

#intheMRFwetrust

[ShawniganLake]

14 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Another horrific GFS run. Here is a picture from happier times. Salem, OR 1916.

The world was a depressing place in 1916 but at least it snowed. 

[ShawniganLake]

The 1996 shenanigans were starting to gain traction in the models around now.  Here’s a couple photos (not mine) from Victoria after Christmas. This person reported close to 5 feet of snow in their neighborhood. 
 

 

[AlTahoe]

1 minute ago, ShawniganLake said:

The 1996 shenanigans were starting to gain traction in the models around now.  Here’s a couple photos (not mine) from Victoria after Christmas. This person reported close to 5 feet of snow in their neighborhood. 
 

 

That was one of the more prolific snow storms in the Sierra as well. I think South lake had 7 feet in 3 days. Then of course 20" of rain showed up after and washed if all away along with the roads into town. Wild storm sequence 

[TacomaWx]

47 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Is the one kid doing the HANDS UP DON’T SHOOT?

If so, how 2014 of him… Analog?

By the way the mountains look right meow 2014-2015 probably is a good analog. 

[Deweydog]

And… since Jesse won’t stop hounding me for snaps, here’s yesterday’s chilly evening view from the new deck. When asked, the grumpy heron on the pond said it is definitely not coming.

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

Got down to 22.3 this morning, up to 28.9 now. 

 

I didn't see much talk about the 06z today, which is odd, because in my opinion it was a great run, a lot of mountain snow an a hint at perhaps possible lowland snow. The temps were too warm for lowland snow on this run but it's a step in the right direction in my opinion.

Also some snow for me on Christmas!

 

[Omegaraptor]

4 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

By the way the mountains look right meow 2014-2015 probably is a good analog. 

Looks like Timberline has reopened Palmer lift.

You know, that lift that’s normally only open during the summer.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

This could be one of the wasted years we mention ruefully for years to come. 

[Deweydog]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This could be one of the wasted years we mention ruefully for years to come. 

Or, in the words of the great Winston Churchill, “it might not. February 2019 says so.”

[Timmy]

4 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Or, in the words of the great Winston Churchill, “it might not. February 2019 says so.”

Or in the words of MLK, “MLK”

[TT-SEA]

19 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

By the way the mountains look right meow 2014-2015 probably is a good analog. 

Are you still in NB?   If so... I apologize for the miserable weather.   

[MossMan]

I’d rather have snow, but it’s hard to complain about a morning like this. 

[ShawniganLake]

25 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This could be one of the wasted years we mention ruefully for years to come. 

We are dew.