December 2023 Weather in the PNW

[Phishy Wx]

2 hours ago, ShawniganLake said:

I thought Putin was supposed to be stealing all the cold in the northern hemisphere this winter.  It looks more like there just isn’t any!

 

 

Southern Hemisphere basically had no winter this year, now it's our turn.  makes complete sense

[TacomaWx]

29 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Are you still in NB?   If so... I apologize for the miserable weather.   

Will be soon, picking up my girlfriend’s brother from Central. Staying with us for the holidays. Was cloudy and cool in ellensburg. 

[RentonHill]

@Phil 

[CliffMassYelledAtMe]

22 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

Southern Hemisphere basically had no winter this year, now it's our turn.  makes complete sense

"You get no winter, and you get no winter, and you get no winter. EVERYONE gets no winter!!!!!!!"

[TT-SEA]

GOA ridge?

What a crazy pattern.   

[BLI snowman]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This could be one of the wasted years we mention ruefully for years to come. 

2023-24.

Has a nice cautionary ring to it.

[TT-SEA]

12Z EPS looks like the ECMWF around day 10 but never brings that trough inland.

[Gradient Keeper]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

This could be one of the wasted years we mention ruefully for years to come. 

On behalf of everyone I would like to congratulate you Andrew on being the first member to use the adverb "ruefully" on the forum.

Furthermore, the earliest known use of the adverb ruefully is in the Middle English period (1150—1500).

OED's earliest evidence for ruefully is from around 1225, in St. Margaret.

[Gradient Keeper]

7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z EPS looks like the ECMWF around day 10 but never brings that trough inland.

Yeah. That's crummy. A lot of offshore/east wind.

[Gradient Keeper]

1 hour ago, Phishy Wx said:

Southern Hemisphere basically had no winter this year, now it's our turn.  makes complete sense

Damn Tonga volcano

[RentonHill]

[AlTahoe]

1 hour ago, TacomaWx said:

1 hour ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

Got down to 22.3 this morning, up to 28.9 now. 

 

I didn't see much talk about the 06z today, which is odd, because in my opinion it was a great run, a lot of mountain snow an a hint at perhaps possible lowland snow. The temps were too warm for lowland snow on this run but it's a step in the right direction in my opinion.

Also some snow for me on Christmas!

 

This is the 3rd time the Gfs has shown a storm series that drops over 36" of snow here. my total for the season is 2.5" so far. lol

 

[Gradient Keeper]

29 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z EPS looks like the ECMWF around day 10 but never brings that trough inland.

The EPS continues to be significantly drier and less active than both the GEFS and CMCE for the main reason you've highlighted the trough just never makes it to the coast. The GEFS and CMCE completely break down the ridge and hammer us with several systems. It has been wrong numerous times in the past, but it's hard to go against the EPS.

18z GFS in 1 hour 6 minutes

[Cold Snap]

Nice to see some people scoring freezes down in the Portland area. Wasn’t able to get one here though with a low of 34. Looks like I have a better chance at one tonight.

[Gradient Keeper]

Hmmm, well the 12 EPS is a bit wetter. Moving towards the GEFS/CMCE?

[SnowySeeker50]

[Front Ranger]

5 hours ago, ShawniganLake said:

I thought Putin was supposed to be stealing all the cold in the northern hemisphere this winter.  It looks more like there just isn’t any!

 

 

Clown range...this is right now.

[T-Town]

3 hours ago, TacomaWx said:

By the way the mountains look right meow 2014-2015 probably is a good analog. 

Not too good. 

[TT-SEA]

10 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Not too good. 

Great pics... beautiful day.  

[Doinko]

Got down to 29 this morning

[High Desert Mat?]

3 hours ago, Deweydog said:

And… since Jesse won’t stop hounding me for snaps, here’s yesterday’s chilly evening view from the new deck. When asked, the grumpy heron on the pond said it is definitely not coming.

Aren’t you the one who said “it’s coming” for the last January period? Hmmm, I like my odds now. 

[ShawniganLake]

50 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Clown range...this is right now.

Haha. Good one. . All the ensembles look pretty much the same in regards to a massive torch across the northern hemisphere commencing within a week or less

[T-Town]

26 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Great pics... beautiful day.  

It is actually a beautiful day. 

[TT-SEA]

Just now, T-Town said:

It is actually a beautiful day. 

Apparently Andrew vehemently disagrees with my assessment of this day.   Guessing his view represents a tiny minority though.  

[SnowWillarrive]

39 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Not too good. 

Looks like July 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Apparently Andrew vehemently disagrees with my assessment of this day.   Guessing his view represents a tiny minority though.  

sun is fine if it’s cold

[TT-SEA]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

sun is fine if it’s cold

Or if its 50 degrees.   Clear and dry is actually better for the mountains today with the warm air mass overhead because if there was precip it would be rain up there.  

[TT-SEA]

4 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

Looks like July 

Well... except for all the bare trees.  

[TT-SEA]

Got up to 54 in North Bend... down to 53 now as 2:30 p.m. is basically the start of evening in December.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

21 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Or if its 50 degrees.   Clear and dry is actually better for the mountains today with the warm air mass overhead because if there was precip it would be rain up there.  

No snow anyway. The planet is literally on fire. 

[SouthHillFrosty]

16 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

No snow anyway. The planet is literally on fire. 

 

[Front Ranger]

58 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

Haha. Good one. . All the ensembles look pretty much the same in regards to a massive torch across the northern hemisphere commencing within a week or less

Sure. And you were asking "where's the cold, I thought Putin"...that's where it is now, in Asia. 

And Russia has generally been hogging the cold so far this season: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/temperatures-siberia-dip-minus-50-celsius-record-snow-blankets-moscow-2023-12-04/

[SilverFallsAndrew]

5 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

 

We can dream of hour 300 

[Deweydog]

Bi San Fran.

[TT-SEA]

This is a great run for CA.   

[Front Ranger]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

This is a great run for CA.   

In the more believable range within a week, the trend has been towards less precip making it inland, unfortunately.

Here's today's 18z:

Here was the same period from a couple days ago:

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

In the more believable range within a week, the trend has been towards less precip making it inland, unfortunately.

Here's today's 18z:

Here was the same period from a couple days ago:

Trends are not good. 

[TT-SEA]

15 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

In the more believable range within a week, the trend has been towards less precip making it inland, unfortunately.

Here's today's 18z:

Here was the same period from a couple days ago:

Totally agree.   GFS and GEM have been way too progressive lately.   EPS is not buying it.

[SnarkyGoblin]

2 hours ago, SnowySeeker50 said:

Man....we've (especially Washington/BC) been spoiled the last couple of years.  I know people have been talking about 2018, but this is rough.

I hope the LR maps are right and there will be a shift in pattern in January.  But I would not be surprised if January and February will be non-stop rug pulls and/or LR goodies just being pushed further and further out until winter just ends.

I'm not hopeful this winter and these kinds of maps are just reinforcing my (probably misplaced) pessimism.=\

Weenie mode engaged.

[Anti Marine Layer]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Totally agree.   GFS and GEM have been way too progressive lately.   EPS is not buying it.

The EPS is more conservative.