February 2024 Weather in the PNW

[BLI snowman]

 

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

August 1968 is the biggest outlier month in terms of precip in our areas 130 year period of record. January 1985 is in the ballpark on the other end of the spectrum.

That year was wild. I was randomly reminiscing about December 1985's insanity the other day and trying to think if we've ever seen an example of a pattern getting as stuck as that one across the region. From the 14th onwards, The Dalles saw just a 7 degree temperature spread. Truly the mother of all inversions.

 

Edited February 21 by BLI snowman

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, MossMan said:

Tim might need to gas up his snow blower! 

Snow levels look to remain about 15' above his house with SW winds.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, BLI snowman said:

 

That year was wild. I was reminiscing about December 1985's insanity the other day and trying to think if we've ever seen an example of a pattern getting as stuck as that one across the region. From the 14th onwards, The Dalles saw just a 7 degree temperature spread. Truly the mother of all inversions.

 

That's beautiful. I've mentioned this about a million times, but it was the coldest year on record at SLE. It was also the driest at the time, I can't remember if 2013 came in drier or not. 

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Snow levels look to remain about 15' above his house with SW winds.

Not even close per the absolutely epic ICON!

[Cascadia_Wx]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

That's beautiful. I've mentioned this about a million times, but it was the coldest year on record at SLE. It was also the driest at the time, I can't remember if 2013 came in drier or not. 

I always find the fact that it was such a cold year overall especially impressive considering how hard July torched. That was our hottest month on record by a wide margin until the early 2020s came along.

[TT-SEA]

6 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Tim might need to gas up his snow blower! 

I already told my sons that one of them will have to come home and clear the driveway if we get enough snow.    Not going to try doing that with a partially torn ACL.   Good news is that one of my sons will be skiing all the time if the mountains get buried and he loves clearing the driveway.   In fact he probably wouldn't even use the snowblower because he likes making bigger snowbanks by shoveling.   

[Slushy Inch]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Not even close per the absolutely epic ICON!

Icon has a bias against snow it seems

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

I always find the fact that it was such a cold year overall especially impressive considering how hard July torched. That was our hottest month on record by a wide margin until the early 2020s came along.

I believe it is still Portland's hottest July. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Slushy Inch said:

Icon has an bias against snow it seems

It does and he knows this. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Here comes round 2

[TT-SEA]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It does and he knows this. 

Yes.   But it can and often does show snow.   It showed lots of lowland snow for the event last week.   It's not even trying with the pattern next week.  Not yet at least.

[Slushy Inch]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It does and he knows this. 

Haha, I had a feeling he would post the snow map for that run 

[Cascadia_Wx]

4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I believe it is still Portland's hottest July. 

It is. Still their third hottest month on record, topped by August 2022 then August 2023. Some very dynamic late summers recently!

Is August 1967 still the king for most of the WV? Seems like that month dominates the record books more so to the south of the Portland area.

Edited February 21 by Cascadia_Wx

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

It is. Still their third hottest month on record, topped by August 2022 then August 2023. Some very dynamic late summers recently!

Is August 1967 still the king for most of the WV? Seems like that month dominates the record books more so to the south of the Portland area.

Wanna get depressed? 

Maximum 1-Month Mean Avg Temperature 
for SALEM AP (MCNARY FIELD), OR

Rank, Value, EndingDate, MissingDays
1, 73.0, 2017-08-31, 0
2, 73.0, 2023-08-31, 0
3, 72.5, 2022-08-31, 0
4, 72.5, 2014-08-31, 0
5, 72.3, 2021-08-31, 0
6, 71.6, 1967-08-31, 0
7, 71.3, 2016-08-31, 0
8, 71.2, 2015-08-31, 0
9, 70.6, 2013-08-31, 0
10, 70.5, 1917-08-31, 0

Period of record: 1893-01-01 to 2024-02-19

[BLI snowman]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yes.   But it can and often does show snow.   It showed lots of lowland snow for the event last week.   It's not even trying with the pattern next week.  Not yet at least.

Its main issue is QPF after the trough digs, not so much a precip type issue. Airmass looks good enough to support sea level stuff overnight for anyone and daytime stuff in the PSCZ. Just not a lot of post-frontal juice on this run. Which is a better position to be in than if it were the other way around.

Edited February 21 by BLI snowman

[TacomaWx]

It is interesting how we’re getting some La Niña like model runs in what you’d expect peak El Niño season like some people mentioned. The pattern is definitely a godsend for the mountains the next couple weeks…even if it doesn’t mean snow in the lowlands. Better late than never. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1967 is still king here...

Maximum 1-Month Mean Avg Temperature 
for SILVER CREEK FALLS, OR

Rank, Value, EndingDate, MissingDays
1, 68.6, 1967-08-31, 0
2, 67.0, 2022-08-31, 0
3, 66.9, 2023-08-31, 0
4, 66.4, 1977-08-31, 0
5, 66.4, 2017-08-31, 0
6, 65.8, 1961-08-31, 0
7, 65.3, 2014-08-31, 0
8, 65.1, 1958-08-31, 0
9, 65.0, 2018-08-31, 0
10, 64.9, 2003-08-31, 2

Period of record: 1938-12-01 to 2024-01-31

[TT-SEA]

34 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Those two storms almost made me move. I’d be living in Yuma by now if a third one had hit.

Maybe we should spend more time mocking those who want rain all summer and who should really be planning to move to Sitka with the trend towards warmer/drier summers.  Seems fair.  You have all the answers right?  People's preferences are always foremost in your mind.   You can't help yourself!

[Cascadia_Wx]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

1967 is still king here...

Maximum 1-Month Mean Avg Temperature 
for SILVER CREEK FALLS, OR

Rank, Value, EndingDate, MissingDays
1, 68.6, 1967-08-31, 0
2, 67.0, 2022-08-31, 0
3, 66.9, 2023-08-31, 0
4, 66.4, 1977-08-31, 0
5, 66.4, 2017-08-31, 0
6, 65.8, 1961-08-31, 0
7, 65.3, 2014-08-31, 0
8, 65.1, 1958-08-31, 0
9, 65.0, 2018-08-31, 0
10, 64.9, 2003-08-31, 2

Period of record: 1938-12-01 to 2024-01-31

1977 making a strong showing too considering how chilly the back half of that month was.

[TT-SEA]

6 minutes ago, Slushy Inch said:

Haha, I had a feeling he would post the snow map for that run 

The ICON snow maps were posted many times last week.    So now we ignore it again?   

[Slushy Inch]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

The ICON snow maps were posted many times last week.    So now we ignore it again?   

If it looks off yes.

[TT-SEA]

4 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Its main issue is QPF after the trough digs, not so much a precip type issue. Airmass looks good enough to support sea level stuff overnight for anyone and daytime stuff in the PSCZ. Just not a lot of post-frontal juice on this run. Which is a better position to be in than if it were the other way around.

I know.   Thought it was a good thing to check since the ICON bought out unsolicited comments about how much snow I will get here.   

[Slushy Inch]

Hmmm

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like 1967 lasted until August 2023 at EUG. That "cool" summer of 2019 coming in at #10. 

Maximum 1-Month Mean Avg Temperature 
for EUGENE-MAHLON SWEET FIELD, OR

Rank, Value, EndingDate, MissingDays
1, 72.5, 2023-08-31, 0
2, 72.0, 1967-08-31, 0
3, 71.5, 2022-08-31, 0
4, 71.4, 2014-08-31, 0
5, 70.8, 2021-08-31, 0
6, 69.9, 2017-08-31, 0
-, 69.9, 1986-08-31, 0
8, 69.9, 2015-08-31, 0
9, 69.8, 1958-08-31, 0
10, 69.8, 2019-08-31, 0

Period of record: 1938-06-01 to 2024-02-19

[GHweatherChris]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Maybe we should spend more time mocking those who want rain all summer and who should really be planning to move to Sitka with the trend towards warmer/drier summers.  Seems fair.  You have all the answers right?  People's preferences are always foremost in your mind.   You can't help yourself!

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Slushy Inch said:

If it looks off yes.

That is a tough call.   It's often the most accurate because it seems to avoid the phantom 37-degree snowstorms the other models fall for over and over again.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

We've had a cooling trend over the past couple summers. 

Rank, Value, EndingDate, MissingDays
1, 71.7, 2021-08-31, 0
2, 71.3, 2015-08-31, 0
3, 69.8, 2022-08-31, 0
4, 69.6, 2023-08-31, 0
5, 69.4, 2014-08-31, 0
6, 69.2, 2017-08-31, 0
7, 69.0, 2018-08-31, 0
8, 68.8, 1958-08-31, 0
9, 68.4, 1926-08-31, 0
10, 68.4, 2013-08-31, 0

Period of record: 1893-01-01 to 2024-02-19

[MossMan]

Frogs are back! 

[TT-SEA]

Just now, GHweatherChris said:

Mocking is a two way street.   I responded to mocking post with a mocking post.   

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Frogs are back! 

They will be dead next week. 

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

The ICON snow maps were posted many times last week.    So now we ignore it again?   

If it doesn't show a lowland snow event, yes. 

[GHweatherChris]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Mocking is a two way street.   I responded to mocking post with a mocking post.   

At least try to be more tongue in cheek about it like those you mock, others comments are funny  how they do it, yours are just straight up angry and pointed.

Edited February 21 by GHweatherChris

[Slushy Inch]

Gfs has Arctic front a bit farther south this run.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like some shadowing around the Puget Sound. 

[TT-SEA]

Just now, GHweatherChris said:

At least try to be more tongue in cheek about it like those you mock, others comments are funny  how they do it, yours are just straight up angry and pointed, no matter what emoji you use to save face.

You lie dormant until I make a post you don't like.   You have to admit that is hilarious.    And I am so not angry.    I love this stuff. 

[Omegaraptor]

11 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looks like 1967 lasted until August 2023 at EUG. That "cool" summer of 2019 coming in at #10. 

Maximum 1-Month Mean Avg Temperature 
for EUGENE-MAHLON SWEET FIELD, OR

Rank, Value, EndingDate, MissingDays
1, 72.5, 2023-08-31, 0
2, 72.0, 1967-08-31, 0
3, 71.5, 2022-08-31, 0
4, 71.4, 2014-08-31, 0
5, 70.8, 2021-08-31, 0
6, 69.9, 2017-08-31, 0
-, 69.9, 1986-08-31, 0
8, 69.9, 2015-08-31, 0
9, 69.8, 1958-08-31, 0
10, 69.8, 2019-08-31, 0

Period of record: 1938-06-01 to 2024-02-19

August 2019 average high was only +0.7 departure at EUG. The lows carried that month.

[Cascadia_Wx]

Just now, Omegaraptor said:

August 2019 average high was only +0.7 departure at EUG. The lows carried that month.

Scottish weather that summer regardless. All of my emo friends were begging their moms to drive them to Tehama county.

[Skagit Weather]

4 hours ago, Meatyorologist said:

August 1899 must have been insane.

I was intrigued so I looked up the average high and low temperatures across WA for August of 1899. Olga's average low of 45F is pretty impressive as it's about 4 degrees colder than anything we've seen in the last 50 years. The fact it's so much colder than every other location on the west side does make me wonder if there was an error with the thermometer at that time or maybe it was just incredible cold winds blowing off the straight.

The Seattle average high for the month was almost 10 degrees below today's normal. The Eastern WA temps look a lot more like the Western WA temps today.

[Cascadia_Wx]

2 minutes ago, Skagit Weather said:

I was intrigued so I looked up the average high and low temperatures across WA for August of 1899. Olga's average low of 45F is pretty impressive as it's about 4 degrees colder than anything we've seen in the last 50 years. The fact it's so much colder than every other location on the west side does make me wonder if there was an error with the thermometer at that time or maybe it was just incredible cold winds blowing off the straight.

The Seattle average high for the month was almost 10 degrees below today's normal. The Eastern WA temps look a lot more like the Western WA temps today.

Pretty much looks like September in August (and a cool September at that)

Where did you find these maps by the way? I love the regional overview.

Edited February 21 by Cascadia_Wx

[TT-SEA]

GFS is failing at its pepto duties.