gosaints Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 It's all going to come down to if this storm Phases in the Plains. Took a look at the 00z Euro Ensemble members and the ones that were phased were farther NW than the OP. The models seem to have a sheared system and the northern stream is over powering any true storm development. With nearly identical teleconnections as the Super Bowl storm, would not be shocked if this storm phases better. Need to wait till all the players are better sampled. The northern piece is still in the GOA and southern piece in N Mexico. I don't think a storm comes up this far north, but folks in the central Plains/Midwest still have a shot at seeing a snowstorm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWisconsinWeather Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Stick a fork in this threat: DAB here, and if we get that, it won't be from this main piece of energy, but some very light precip being indicated on some models amidst this deep (but pretty meaningless in terms of snow) trough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 One of the more forgettable winters in recent memory. Cold and dry seems to be the pattern we're stuck in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 12z GGEM gives some snow to those that have been missed by storm systems this winter in the southern Plains/Midwest ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV-Mike Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 One of the more forgettable winters in recent memory. Cold and dry seems to be the pattern we're stuck in.Bound to happen, especially in KC. you can get 37 inches like in 10-11 or you can get 4 inches like 11-12. KC seems to get a lot of moisture but temps can play havoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLIZZARD09 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 With the exception of the ghd blizzard this winter has really been quite boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Let us remember we are just using the best available educated guess system, "models," in an attempt to locate where the most snow is going to occur. Give her a few days, the super bowl system way over performed in many spots, and would not be shocked if this did the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Looking at the 12z JMA todays run, not sure how this will translate down the road but the HP is 4mb weaker and centered a littler farther to the northeast compared to yesterdays 96hr run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 12z Euro takes this system down to the Gulf Coast and might give Dallas/Arkansas/MS some freezing precip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 12z JMA squashed south... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Time to cancel thread? Looks like minimal impact, if that, to anyone on the subforum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 In the.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ba Bye! On to the next one! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Boy I guess the LRC is nice to show us when there may be a storm somewhere in the US but beyond that it hasn't been too good on the last couple of storms. The storm of the 8-9th was a no show for any of us and this storm isn't going to bring anyone snow unless you are in Oklahoma or Arkansas and then the Northeast. I know we're supposed to be heading into an active pattern, but it's easy to see that's no guarantee it's going to be active for any of us on this forum. This split flow has happened before this winter and was supposed to bring us so much snow, but that didn't happen the first time so I guess if this is the LRC cycling back through on this pattern than we shouldn't expect much this time around either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 FWIW...18z NAM is farther north with the precip if anyone cares! Edit: with 1st wave coming from the northern stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 That is one nasty looking trough on the 12z Euro Ensembles...haven't seen one of this magnitude all Winter long. Looks a bit neg tilt... FWIW, JB had a nice post about this storm and said there are 3 separate pieces to the puzzle with this storm system and models will obviously have a tough time trying to figure this all out. http://www.weatherbell.com/images/imguploader/images/eps_z500a_noram_17(12).png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 18Z GFS coming around --- I would take 3" right now. Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yeah nice improvement on 18z GFS. Hopefully it'll correct a kittle more northwest and show more phasing in future runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Time to cancel thread? Looks like minimal impact, if that, to anyone on the subforum.Boy, you and some others on this sub-forum def need to build some Patience. We are still 4 days away from this system developing in the Plains. Geeze louize...wait till all the players are on the field, then you can decide to throw in the towel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Tom is that energy that gives snows to OMA over to DSM that I showed above even part of the main system or is it more clipper like??? Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Boy, you and some others on this sub-forum def need to build some Patience. We are still 4 days away from this system developing in the Plains. Geeze louize...wait till all the players are on the field, then you can decide to throw in the towel.[/quoteI'm sorry lol. Yeah I understand it's just nothing good has come out of any storm around here this winter. I guess I just kind of expect an unfavorable outcome at this point. That being said, NAM isn't horrible and GFS is showing signs that things may change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Tom is that energy that gives snows to OMA over to DSM that I showed above even part of the main system or is it more clipper like???In reading the AFD's that appears to be some warm advection type snows from an initial piece of energy Saturday night- Sunday morning. Back when the models were showing snow from the main storm, that snow fell later on Monday into Tuesday so I don't think this snow is part of what was supposed to be the big one. "A STRONGER SHORTWAVE SLIDES SOUTHEASTALONG WARM FRONT ADVANCING THROUGH THE REGION." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Tom is that energy that gives snows to OMA over to DSM that I showed above even part of the main system or is it more clipper like???Could be a combination of what NE Jeremy just posted and the northern piece coming off of the GOA Low. The models seem to be focusing the main energy from the southern piece which is still located near Baja/N Mexico region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Anybody have the GFS/GGEM Ensembles??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 You can see the southern piece spinning near the Baja of California/NW Mexico region....pretty potent looking thing... http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GSSLOOPS/ecwv.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 A lot of shortwaves coming down the NW flow. The big one would be early-mid next week with several pieces of energy. A lot of possibilities yet. The Super Bowl storm came back out of nowhere so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 00z NAM looking interesting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted February 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 00z NAM...showing some warning type snows in the Midwest...MO/IL cash in this run.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 E Maine with 3 feet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 NAM keeping the hope alive. Five inches IMBY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Look at the total snowfall for Maine http://i.imgur.com/BTnEnHj.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 The GFS way suppressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 48-60" for Maine?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Haha I love the NAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 UKIE 72 http://img.meteocentre.com/models/ukmet_amer_00/GZ_D5_PN_072_0000.gif 96 http://img.meteocentre.com/models/ukmet_amer_00/GZ_D5_PN_096_0000.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover76 Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 48-60" for Maine?!!!Down East Maine already has 60+ OTG. This season should beat 1969 for them in terms of snowfall. Most spots, especially in Down East near Eastport should finish with over 300 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Not happening with all that artic air. Models keep the south trend then hammer east! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 Wow one post all morning. Really indicative of the patter we're in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted February 13, 2015 Report Share Posted February 13, 2015 yeah this storm looks nothing like it did a few days ago. it's even pretty weak looking for the south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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