PNW November 2021 Wx Obs/Discussion

[Phishy Wx]

^^^^Bastardi is a notorious over hyper on cold when he thinks it.  Euro completely contradicts that ^^^^

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Seeing this Penn State at Michigan State games just reinforces my belief that Indiana and the Midwest is just so much better for weather than this area. I’m trying to think of inland places this far north that have it worse. Lots of 55F clouds and boredom from Oct-March then 90F+ highs from Apr-Sept.

[TT-SEA]

10 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Seeing this Penn State at Michigan State games just reinforces my belief that Indiana and the Midwest is just so much better for weather than this area. I’m trying to think of inland places this far north that have it worse. Lots of 55F clouds and boredom from Oct-March then 90F+ highs from Apr-Sept.

Classic snowy scene in that game right now...

[Snownerd3000]

12 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

^^^^Bastardi is a notorious over hyper on cold when he thinks it.  Euro completely contradicts that ^^^^

Also big homer bias for him. 

[snow drift]

13 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

^^^^Bastardi is a notorious over hyper on cold when he thinks it.  Euro completely contradicts that ^^^^

He's a tabloid forecaster, and he plays to his audience.

[snow drift]

13 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Seeing this Penn State at Michigan State games just reinforces my belief that Indiana and the Midwest is just so much better for weather than this area. I’m trying to think of inland places this far north that have it worse. Lots of 55F clouds and boredom from Oct-March then 90F+ highs from Apr-Sept.

The Apple cup has been snowy on many occasions. 2018 is a great example.

[catnip]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Brrrrr

Getting Nippy!

[TT-SEA]

4 minutes ago, snow drift said:

The Apple cup has been snowy on many occasions. 2018 is a great example.

1992 was snowy in Pullman for the Apple Cup too.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eykkSTEcVdg

[Snownerd3000]

18z looks good so far. Still early though. 

[LowerGarfield]

11 minutes ago, snow drift said:

The Apple cup has been snowy on many occasions. 2018 is a great example.

For our Oregon posters, have either Oregon or Oregon State played snow games (or at least measurable snow on the ground) in Eugene/Corvallis against any team?

[Deweydog]

26 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Seeing this Penn State at Michigan State games just reinforces my belief that Indiana and the Midwest is just so much better for weather than this area. I’m trying to think of inland places this far north that have it worse. Lots of 55F clouds and boredom from Oct-March then 90F+ highs from Apr-Sept.

BREAKING FORUM NEWS!

[snow_wizard]

The 18z continues the trend of doing away with that troublesome piece of energy that was breaking off and ruining the pattern evolution on earlier runs.

[snow_wizard]

5 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

18z looks good so far. Still early though. 

A decent cold snap late next week is looking like a much better bet.  Nothing huge, but definitely chilly.

[snow_wizard]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Brrrrr

The end of that is probably wrong.  I don't even bother looking at those kinds of forecasts.

[snow_wizard]

This run is actually a bit better than the 12z in the believable range.  Amazing how the that cold blast in the East has been so watered down from earlier runs.  We're not the only ones that get the rug pulled out from under us.

[snow_wizard]

Great looking run so far.  Fingers crossed.

[snow_wizard]

41 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Seeing this Penn State at Michigan State games just reinforces my belief that Indiana and the Midwest is just so much better for weather than this area. I’m trying to think of inland places this far north that have it worse. Lots of 55F clouds and boredom from Oct-March then 90F+ highs from Apr-Sept.

Why torture yourself comparing this to to other places?  I'm sure some people back east are bummed because Siberia is colder than there.  We are worse than some places and better than other....just like most places.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Why torture yourself comparing this to to other places?  I'm sure some people back east are bummed because Siberia is colder than there.  We are worse than some places and better than other....just like most places.

Very few places can beat us for mild gloom though... we do that very well.  

[Slushy Inch]

Ok, 18z now has Sunday’s trough developing right over Washington.

[snow_wizard]

Good looking run.  We've got something going here.

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Very few places can beat us for mild gloom though... we do that very well.  

Yeah....I hate that part.

[SouthHillFrosty]

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Yeah....I hate that part.

And its not a small part either.  

[High Desert Mat?]

18z ALERT!!

[Anti Marine Layer]

10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Why torture yourself comparing this to to other places?  I'm sure some people back east are bummed because Siberia is colder than there.  We are worse than some places and better than other....just like most places.

Some people prefer a tropical climate. 

[Phishy Wx]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Very few places can beat us for mild gloom though... we do that very well.  

You ever overwintered in Charleston SC?  rain, rain, rain, dry day,rain, rain, rain, glancing 18 cold snap, rain, rain, rain, dry day, severe thunderstorm, glancing 18 hour cool snap. rain, rain 

[High Desert Mat?]

522dm line to the Oregon border at hr 198. 

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Phishy Wx said:

You ever overwintered in Charleston SC?  rain, rain, rain, dry day,rain, rain, rain, glancing 18 cold snap, rain, rain, rain, dry day, severe thunderstorm, glancing 18 hour cool snap. rain, rain 

No... but it does not rain nearly that much.

Just looked up Charleston... 3 days with rain this month.    We have had 3 days with no rain.  

And it rained on just 20 days there all of last winter.    Just a bit different.   Summer would be hard to take though.  

[Phishy Wx]

3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

No... but it does not rain nearly that much.

Just looked up Charleston... 3 days with rain this month.    We have had 3 days with no rain.  

And it rained on just 20 days there all of last winter.    Just a bit different.   Summer would be hard to take though.  

La Nina's are typically dry there, true.  I grew up there.  El Ninos are when they get hammered.  Lots of lows off shore that become noreastas

[snow drift]

42 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

1992 was snowy in Pullman for the Apple Cup too.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eykkSTEcVdg

2010 was also snowy. 1992 is often called the Snowbowl.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

La Nina's are typically dry there, true.  I grew up there.  El Ninos are when they get hammered.  Lots of lows off shore that become noreastas

Went back to the Nino of 2018-19 and there was rain on 29 out of 90 days that winter.     Still the vast majority of days are dry.

[snow drift]

12 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

You ever overwintered in Charleston SC?  rain, rain, rain, dry day,rain, rain, rain, glancing 18 cold snap, rain, rain, rain, dry day, severe thunderstorm, glancing 18 hour cool snap. rain, rain 

I was stationed near Savannah, GA at Ft Stewart. Winters were like September or October. Summers were rainy. It rained everyday at roughly 3:30 pm.

[Deweydog]

Hey look!

An AR in the long range!

[Slushy Inch]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Hey look!

An AR in the long range!

It’s progressive though.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Hey look!

An AR in the long range!

And within 300 hours!   We have to believe.   And focused where rain is so badly needed.  

[snow drift]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Hey look!

An AR in the long range!

It's good for all of our tropical plants.

[Christensen87]

This could be a great December coming up! Wonder why the CPC is calling for warmer than average in the 8-14 day range. 

[snow_wizard]

The GFS shows that same south tracking low that was on the 12z ECMWF after the cold air is in place.  This looks like something interesting guys.

[Slushy Inch]

This makes me want to get my ski stuff ready that’s for sure.

[Phishy Wx]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Went back to the Nino of 2018-19 and there was rain on 29 out of 90 days that winter.     Still the vast majority of days are dry.

Yeah they do get a decent amount of rainfall (totals wise) with no orographic lifting to speak of.  lots of convection, more of a stratiform rain in the cooler months, but still some convection.

I do miss thunderstorms, that is where weather is boring out here (summers)