On the 7th month of... July PNW 2022 (Preferance Wars)

[Doinko]

The GFS shows 103 instead of 112 on the 15th at Portland. Progress!!

[Doinko]

Weather.com isn't looking nice:

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Cloudy this morning. 

[Omegaraptor]

Sunrise was nice enough to pull over to the side and take a quick picture on my drive to work. There was no one behind me anyway.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Decent amount of new fire starts yesterday with the lightning over the Central Oregon Cascades. 

[T-Town]

Down to 65 earlier, 66 now. Hazy early morning walk. 

[Doinko]

https://mobile.twitter.com/jlev/status/1553591554014515200

[Rubus Leucodermis]

7 hours ago, TacomaWx said:

Box fans really help out a lot. Got 2 running have since 7pm. Don’t have a thermometer inside but I’d guess it’s 75-77 inside which feels pretty good. Hopefully you feel better soon. 

Yes, window fans can really help. Don’t want to think how oppressive my laneway house would be right now if I weren’t using fans to ventilate. It’s been nearly dead calm on recent nights.

[Doinko]

July 2022 should end up as the 4th warmest month on record at PDX if you take the NWS forecast for today, after July 1985, July 2018 and July 2015. Should end up hotter than July 2009 and August 2017 as well.

[snow_wizard]

1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Yes, window fans can really help. Don’t want to think how oppressive my laneway house would be right now if I weren’t using fans to ventilate. It’s been nearly dead calm on recent nights.

Indeed.  If you run them at night and turn them off during the day they work really good.  I have been putting a fan outside my patio screen door at night and that works even better.  Dropped to 61 here last night which really made it effective.

[snow_wizard]

26 minutes ago, Doiinko said:

July 2022 should end up as the 4th warmest month on record at PDX if you take the NWS forecast for today, after July 1985, July 2018 and July 2015. Should end up hotter than July 2009 and August 2017 as well.

Pretty shocking when you look at the first 3/4 of the month.  Terrible final week.  Let's hope we see a fantastic flip side in the autumn and winter.

The 4CH is just kicking our arses in the summer now.  When that thing goes away it changes dramatically.  

[snow_wizard]

Looks like SEA will come in 5th warmest July.  2009 was also warmer here.

[Timmy Supercell]

8 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Pretty shocking when you look at the first 3/4 of the month.  Terrible final week.  Let's hope we see a fantastic flip side in the autumn and winter.

The 4CH is just kicking our arses in the summer now.  When that thing goes away it changes dramatically.  

Crazy how much hotter it has been east of the cascades, it's been nearly endless 90+ days since the 2nd week.

And it even flipped just as wild where I left, they had the coolest start to a July in decades, but at the end will not be any different from 2021 or 2014. (just listed the two hottest Julys at KLMT)

[Doinko]

4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Pretty shocking when you look at the first 3/4 of the month.  Terrible final week.  Let's hope we see a fantastic flip side in the autumn and winter.

The 4CH is just kicking our arses in the summer now.  When that thing goes away it changes dramatically.  

I wonder what the winter will be like, I'm hoping it's good. Some regionwide cold/snow in January would be nice as well. January 2017 was pretty cold at PDX (33.5 avg temp), but not really elsewhere sadly (37.9 at SEA). The temp difference that month especially early on was pretty notable between PDX at SEA. January 2020 got close at least it seems, but then was very warm the rest of the month.

[Anti Marine Layer]

On 7/29/2022 at 11:10 PM, SilverFallsAndrew said:

If you forecast a hot PNW summer you will be right 100% of the time!

Except for June

[KeyPeninsula_Wx]

Got down to 63…6th consecutive +60 low. Up to 72 now. 

[Doinko]

10 minutes ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Except for June

June wasn't really that cool (it was wet though), PDX and SLE were actually above average.

[KeyPeninsula_Wx]

As of this morning we’re +2.1 for July. We will see about hitting 90 this afternoon should atleast get to 88. 

[MossMan]

Had a low of 59. 
Currently 65. 

[Doinko]

Found this interesting, on January 8th, 1979, Portland had a 31/21 day while Seattle had a 48/34 day. The difference between Portland and Seattle that month in avg temp was pretty high, Portland had an average temp of 30.7 while Seattle had an average temp of 37.8.

[KeyPeninsula_Wx]

[Phil]

Florida is an awful place to live.  

[MossMan]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Florida is an awful place to live.  

Which state is worse, Texas or Florida? 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

4 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Which state is worse, Texas or Florida? 

Gotta be Texas. 

[SnarkyGoblin]

21 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Which state is worse, Texas or Florida? 

A million times Florida.  Between the hurricanes, tropical pests, the hot and humid weather, and lack of local BBQ cuisine, there's no comparison.

Also....half of Texas won't be under water a century from now.

[Cloud]

77 here at 9:30am

[KeyPeninsula_Wx]

Just now, Cloud said:

77 here at 9:30am

77 here too. 

[MossMan]

2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

77 here too. 

71! 

[SnowWillarrive]

33 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Which state is worse, Texas or Florida? 

Florida has more nut cases. 

[Cloud]

2 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

77 here too. 

GFS wants to build the heat back up again after next weekend. 
 

At some point in the next few years we’re probably gonna have to consider 90s not an extreme anymore…. When they become the norm.

[MV_snow]

Pretty crazy both how long this heatwave has been and the humidity / lack of cooling at night. I find a few days in the 90s with dry air somewhat enjoyable, but a week long slog of sweaty lows in the 60s is pretty brutal.

Also pretty nuts how quickly the Mon-Thurs forecast has flipped from “lots of marine influence with good chance of rain Wed and Thurs” to “only a slight drop off in temps Mon and Tues with very slight chance of rain on Thurs.”

[snow_wizard]

1 hour ago, Doiinko said:

I wonder what the winter will be like, I'm hoping it's good. Some regionwide cold/snow in January would be nice as well. January 2017 was pretty cold at PDX (33.5 avg temp), but not really elsewhere sadly (37.9 at SEA). The temp difference that month especially early on was pretty notable between PDX at SEA. January 2020 got close at least it seems, but then was very warm the rest of the month.

To me it appears we have seen a trend toward a more 4 distinct season regime...at least up this way.  I have no question we are still capable of seeing a region wide event.  It was actually cold here in Jan 2017.  The only time I've seen a fairly large lake near here freeze all the way across and thick enough to walk on.

[Timmy Supercell]

15 minutes ago, SnarkyGoblin said:

A million times Florida.  Between the hurricanes, tropical pests, the hot and humid weather, and lack of local BBQ cuisine, there's no comparison.

Also....half of Texas won't be under water a century from now.

Texas needs to fix the power grid issue, or both states IMO have an equal number of negatives. 

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, MV_snow said:

Pretty crazy both how long this heatwave has been and the humidity / lack of cooling at night. I find a few days in the 90s with dry air somewhat enjoyable, but a week long slog of sweaty lows in the 60s is pretty brutal.

Also pretty nuts how quickly the Mon-Thurs forecast has flipped from “lots of marine influence with good chance of rain Wed and Thurs” to “only a slight drop off in temps Mon and Tues with very slight chance of rain on Thurs.”

Slog is a good word.  It has flat wore me out.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2022/07/bill-monroe-navigating-the-heat-and-making-life-easier-for-our-wild-neighbors.html

[Cascadia_Wx]

3 minutes ago, MV_snow said:

Pretty crazy both how long this heatwave has been and the humidity / lack of cooling at night. I find a few days in the 90s with dry air somewhat enjoyable, but a week long slog of sweaty lows in the 60s is pretty brutal.

Also pretty nuts how quickly the Mon-Thurs forecast has flipped from “lots of marine influence with good chance of rain Wed and Thurs” to “only a slight drop off in temps Mon and Tues with very slight chance of rain on Thurs.”

Good thing no one in real life likes rain and cool weather anyway

[snow_wizard]

7 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

Florida has more nut cases. 

What about the nut cases here?  Does anyone remember CHOP or the endless riots in Portland?

[T-Town]

Ready to party today. If I don’t post for a few days you’ll know I tried the slip n slide and am in the hospital. 

[snow_wizard]

6 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Good thing no one in real life likes rain and cool weather anyway

There's got to be a happy medium somewhere.  This year went from one extreme to the other.  I guess the wild swings might bode well going forward.

I am bummed about our summers.  They are 90% of why our glaciers are melting.  No question that at least for now the raging 4CH has become normal.  FWIW there is evidence from distant past precip records in the SW that aspect is cyclical.

[Doinko]

3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

To me it appears we have seen a trend toward a more 4 distinct season regime...at least up this way.  I have no question we are still capable of seeing a region wide event.  It was actually cold here in Jan 2017.  The only time I've seen a fairly large lake near here freeze all the way across and thick enough to walk on.

Yeah the Portland area (especially away from the Gorge) just got very unlucky in Feb 2019 and in Feb 2021 models showed me getting 12"+ but then everything shifted ~10 miles north and I only had 4.5" or so and some sleet/ZR. The January 2017 storm was amazing though so I don't mind too much. 13" of snow in one night and sunny/cold weather for the next few days is hard to top.