MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 12Z ECMWF shows a rainy Christmas Eve... onshore flow with 850mb temps between 0 and -2C. I have had snow more times than i can count with those conditions over here. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I have had snow more times than i can count with those conditions over here.Thats how i had so much sbow in 07/08. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 There is absolutely convergence going on right now. It's just overrunning a cold air mass. Right along N King County/S Snohomish, as often happens. Nahhhh... the main batch will continue to push through. Right now its looks like a c-zone but that is temporary. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 OK Jim... several inches coming your way! Radar shows a massive c-zone heading right for Covington! Yay!!!! Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Thats how i had so much sbow in 07/08. I doubt there will be much lowland snow with 850mb temp of +5C which is what the ECMWF shows for Christmas Day. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 OK Jim... several inches coming your way! Radar shows a massive c-zone heading right for Covington! You have to have faith like Elijah. It will snow. The heavens will open up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 26 degrees and still light snow! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Some really nice low temps last night around the state. Many sub zero readings east of the Cascades and many mid to upper teens in Western WA. Ferndale's 13 is the lowest I could find for the West side. Deer Park: -14 Pasco: -9 (insane for that location given the situation) Bellingham: 14 Olympia: 15 MBY: 18 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterdog Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Yeah has gotten quite healthy here over the last half hour! Such a pleasant surprise today!I saw 16 flakes this morning, each providing a miniature snowscape of their own. Another winter memory I'll treasure for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The ECMWF continues to advertise a bit of a cold snap just before Christmas and continues to like the idea of rising heights over the GOA after Christmas. At face value we could be talking about 500 to 1000 foot snow levels around the 22nd or 23rd. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I saw 16 flakes this morning, each providing a miniature snowscape of their own. Another winter memory I'll treasure for years.East side of I-5 up here not doing as well...sorry. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The ECMWF continues to advertise a bit of a cold snap just before Christmas and continues to like the idea of rising heights over the GOA after Christmas. At face value we could be talking about 500 to 1000 foot snow levels around the 22nd or 23rd. Love how it looks at day 10. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I doubt there will be much lowland snow with 850mb temp of +5C which is what the ECMWF shows for Christmas Day.The models have kind of been all over the place for next weekend. Christmas is eight days away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Heaviest it's snowed all day in Mukilteo. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The models have kind of been all over the place for next weekend. Christmas is eight days away. Small hope for a change... but this is the time frame when things start to lock in at the 500mb level and its certainly trended worse in the last 24 hours. Including the EPS and control run. Again... I am just focused on the 24-27th when it would be nice to share a snowy landscape with family from CA. And not have the usual sideways rain. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 This is not really a c-zone pattern. Its an overrunning situation. Its oriented in the same way a Vancouver Island convergence zone would be. The only difference is it's too broad and too light for such a persistent zone. Here's the classic example of twin zones that Cliff mass has on his blog. http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2014/12/a-dramatic-double-convergence-zone.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Maybe PDX will at least be able to score a high of 32 today. Whenever 850s fall to -10c I fell like we should have some sort of temperature goody to show for it. They fell to 27 last night too, which was honestly colder than I thought they would get by the time I went to bed. Hit 25 here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Its oriented in the same way a Vancouver Island convergence zone would be. The only difference is it's too broad and too light for such a persistent zone. Here's the classic example of twin zones that Cliff mass has on his blog. http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2014/12/a-dramatic-double-convergence-zone.html This more of an orographic situation with NW flow... not a CAA pattern with strong converging winds around the Olympic peninsula. Either way the main blob of moisture is moving through now in the NW flow and is about over. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 This more of an orographic situation with NW flow... not a CAA pattern with strong converging winds around the Olympic peninsula. Either way the main blob of moisture is moving through now in the NW flow and is about over.Just like how the holiday season is almost over...and winter as well. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Small hope for a change... but this is the time frame when things start to lock in at the 500mb level and its certainly trended worse in the last 24 hours. Including the EPS and control run. Again... I am just focused on the 24-27th when it would be nice to share a snowy landscape with family from CA. And not have the usual sideways rain.Don't be too hard on yourself getting hung up on impressing others. It will never be enough. I'm sure your relatives have seen your place with snow on the ground before. Regardless of what happens you have a beautiful place/family to show off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Maybe PDX will at least be able to score a high of 32 today. Whenever 850s fall to -10c I fell like we should have some sort of temperature goody to show for it. They fell to 27 last night too, which was honestly colder than I thought they would get by the time I went to bed. Hit 25 here.34. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The ECMWF continues to advertise a bit of a cold snap just before Christmas and continues to like the idea of rising heights over the GOA after Christmas. At face value we could be talking about 500 to 1000 foot snow levels around the 22nd or 23rd.Sounds amazing. Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Love how it looks at day 10. get_orig_img (1).gifResults in pretty seasonable temps at the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Some really nice low temps last night around the state. Many sub zero readings east of the Cascades and many mid to upper teens in Western WA. Ferndale's 13 is the lowest I could find for the West side.Deer Park: -14Pasco: -9 (insane for that location given the situation)Bellingham: 14Olympia: 15MBY: 1816.2 here at my home and -14 at my cabin! Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goducks09 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Looks like a decent slug of moisture over Vancouver Island headed SE. I assume that's the main snowmaker today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Results in pretty seasonable temps at the surface. Talking about the developing pattern and where it appears to be going. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleweatherguy Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 No snow showers here just virga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Looks like a decent slug of moisture over Vancouver Island headed SE. I assume that's the main snowmaker today?No. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Love how it looks at day 10. get_orig_img (1).gif Kind of has that look alright. The block coming back so soon kind of sets this aside from a lot of recent years. Most of the time if the cold is really done with us you won't even see minor chilly interludes after a significant cold wave like this. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 16.2 here at my home and -14 at my cabin! Do you have a temperature sensor up there you can access? Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Heaviest it's snowed all day in Mukilteo. 525vc00695.jpg Definitely Strait / Sound effect snow. The moisture dumps out pretty quickly when it gets over land. That having been said the mountains I can see about 10 miles from here have "disappeared" over the past 15 minutes. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Definitely Strait / Sound effect snow. The moisture dumps out pretty quickly when it gets over land. That having been said the mountains I can see about 10 miles from here have "disappeared" over the past 15 minutes. Partly sunny here now. Mountains all clearly visible. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 34.No!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 No!!!!!!35? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Results in pretty seasonable temps at the surface. Kind of missing the point. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The radar continues to look better and the clouds are pretty serious looking here now. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The radar continues to look better and the clouds are pretty serious looking here now. What radar are you looking at? The SEA radar just switched to hyper-sensitive mode. 90% of which is virga. The greens have all but disappeared in the middle of the blob as it slides to the SE. The green areas were the only places that snow was actually reaching the ground. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleweatherguy Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Flurries now when app says snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The radar continues to look better and the clouds are pretty serious looking here now.Oh brother- virga Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Kind of missing the point.No, I am not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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