SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 This year is a dead ringer for last spring. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Sunny skies this morning have given way to a partial marine layer. Nice day though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Clouds have started to break apart here as well only 55 degrees though. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 This year is a dead ringer for last spring. It's almost as if it's the new normal... Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Sun hasn’t really been able to penetrate the clouds here fully still just a mostly cloudy day. Should be plenty of sun in the forecast for awhile so no big deal. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Woke up to drizzle... but its been a partly cloudy afternoon and very pleasant. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Sunny afternoon again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Almost crystal clear sky here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 According to Kevin Martin and CraigOmahaWX we will never see another drop of rain...ever. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Despite being sunny there's a bit of a chill to the air this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Quite the busy day on the forum! Currently 42 degrees and .02” in the rain gauge for the day. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Quite the busy day on the forum! Currently 42 degrees and .02” in the rain gauge for the day. it’s going to take some type of severe weather like a windstorm or t-storm to energize the chat. Hoping this year we get a 5/4/17 style event again. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Most of the Pacific Ocean is warmer than normal... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Most of the Pacific Ocean is warmer than normal... Seems like that was the case last year, too. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Most of the Pacific Ocean is warmer than normal... That means the water is closer to the temperature it can evaporate and become rain clouds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 It’ll be interesting to see how this translates to our weather. I’d be happy if it meant a bit more rain and no 90 degree days. Doubt it though Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Interesting. I didn’t know Tulip Poplars grew in Seattle. Not exactly a great climate for them. #HumidSubtropical https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-neighbors-band-together-against-developer-to-save-exceptional-tree/ Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Very possible no rain falls during the month of May. Ensembles take us to the 20th now and the majority show no precip. Absolutely unbelievable. #newnormal. #climateofdoom. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Very possible no rain falls during the month of May. Ensembles take us to the 20th now and the majority show no precip. Absolutely unbelievable. #newnormal. #climateofdoom.If I made a statement like this on the 3rd day of a month about rain every day for the rest of the month... the mocking would be ruthless. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Interesting. I didn’t know Tulip Poplars grew in Seattle. Not exactly a great climate for them. #HumidSubtropical https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-neighbors-band-together-against-developer-to-save-exceptional-tree/ had a huge one in my yard growing up and was amazing. There is also a big one down the street from our house. Really cool trees when they bloom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 If I made a statement like this on the 3rd day of a month about rain every day for the rest of the month... the mocking would be ruthless. No it wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Very possible no rain falls during the month of May. Ensembles take us to the 20th now and the majority show no precip. Absolutely unbelievable. #newnormal. #climateofdoom. Maybe it’ll rain at the end of the month or a bit next month. Either way up north here apparently there expecting Ross lake in the north cascades to be an estimated 25’ below normal due to the low amount of precip this year so far north of Seattle and most of Olympic National Park is around 50% of normal snowpack. It’s not the end of the world all of this but the water and snowpack situations aren’t great. Driest start to a year here since 2008. Definitely would help out getting some rain soon. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Only hotter and drier from here...is your body ready? Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Very possible no rain falls during the month of May. Ensembles take us to the 20th now and the majority show no precip. Absolutely unbelievable. #newnormal. #climateofdoom.Rain will fall this month. And rain will fall in June. The panic in here is hilarious. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Perfect weather for working in the yard today! Overcast, a little breezy, and fairly mild. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Jones Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Interesting thoughts from Mark Nelsen. https://fox12weather.wordpress.com/2019/05/02/another-unusually-warm-dry-start-to-may/ "But now things are getting strange again… During the past two weeks we’ve seen little/no rain for most of us west of the Cascades. 1. That DOES sometimes happen in the springtime for a week or so, but dry spells to two weeks are unusual. 2. Now add in another week of dry weather on the way and that’s VERY unusual. I just took a look at rain records here in Portland. This is crazy. Take the last two weeks of April, then add in these first 9 days of May (assuming little/no rain falls through next Thursday). 3. This year is the driest, followed by…last year! Three of the five driest late April through early May periods have been in the past few years. That’s 2019, 2018, & 2015. We know what happened in those other two years…very warm/hot summers. We have also seen 6 consecutive dry Mays in Oregon Climate Zone #2 (lower elevations west of Cascades). That’s after the memorable chilly & wet springs 2010-2012 This does make me suspect (along with other evidence) that our warming/changing climate has a part in this. Anecdotally, it seems we are seeing more episodes of upper-level ridging near/over the west coast of North America the past 5-6 years. Remember last winter we (again) didn’t have any sort of typical stormy westerly flow. The action (snow & cold) came from a big ridge to our west and cold northerly flow coming out of Canada. Also it seems we are seeing higher “upper-level heights” in the warm season. In this case everything would be pushed to the north; Portland’s warm season weather would become more like Roseburg. Then Roseburg is more like Medford etc… Again, this is anecdotal and based on what I’ve seen all these years forecasting in our area. As Pete Ferryman said yesterday, maybe the old saying “summer begins on July 5th” will disappear in time. We’ll see." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Very possible no rain falls during the month of May. Ensembles take us to the 20th now and the majority show no precip. Absolutely unbelievable. #newnormal. #climateofdoom.Troll post of 2019...so far! Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Interesting thoughts from Mark Nelsen. https://fox12weather.wordpress.com/2019/05/02/another-unusually-warm-dry-start-to-may/"But now things are getting strange again…During the past two weeks we’ve seen little/no rain for most of us west of the Cascades.1. That DOES sometimes happen in the springtime for a week or so, but dry spells to two weeks are unusual.2. Now add in another week of dry weather on the way and that’s VERY unusual. I just took a look at rain records here in Portland. This is crazy. Take the last two weeks of April, then add in these first 9 days of May (assuming little/no rain falls through next Thursday).3. This year is the driest, followed by…last year!Three of the five driest late April through early May periods have been in the past few years. That’s 2019, 2018, & 2015. We know what happened in those other two years…very warm/hot summers.We have also seen 6 consecutive dry Mays in Oregon Climate Zone #2 (lower elevations west of Cascades). That’s after the memorable chilly & wet springs 2010-2012This does make me suspect (along with other evidence) that our warming/changing climate has a part in this. Anecdotally, it seems we are seeing more episodes of upper-level ridging near/over the west coast of North America the past 5-6 years. Remember last winter we (again) didn’t have any sort of typical stormy westerly flow. The action (snow & cold) came from a big ridge to our west and cold northerly flow coming out of Canada. Also it seems we are seeing higher “upper-level heights” in the warm season. In this case everything would be pushed to the north; Portland’s warm season weather would become more like Roseburg. Then Roseburg is more like Medford etc… Again, this is anecdotal and based on what I’ve seen all these years forecasting in our area.As Pete Ferryman said yesterday, maybe the old saying “summer begins on July 5th” will disappear in time. We’ll see."But the “trigger” for the ridging is completely different this year versus last year and 2015. There is actually a narrow z-cell structure now with low pass subsidence developing over the WP. That’s the opposite of last year and 2017/15/14, so when the trailing MJO axis leaves West-Central Pacific later this month, we’ll enter into a 1990s type +ENSO pattern with more GOA troughing/zonal flow and moisture draw. The 4-corners High is going to be pathetic this year. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 had a huge one in my yard growing up and was amazing. There is also a big one down the street from our house. Really cool trees when they bloom.Ha, wow. I never thought they could do well out there given the lack of summer rainfall. I saw a few small/medium sized ones in west-Seattle last year, but I figured someone was watering them because they were as lush and green as the ones out here. They’re actually the dominant native tree species here. Currently in full bloom for the most part. We have several in/around our property that are between 140-160ft even after losing their tops long ago..most have been growing since the mid/late 18th century, when this area was logged. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Rain will fall this month. And rain will fall in June. The panic in here is hilarious. I don’t really see anyone panicking. The water situation isnt great but 2015 was worse and we got through that. I’ll be more worried if we go through the next couple months with little or no rain. It has been an overall dry start to the year so far so you can see why people would be a little worried since last year was dry.Maybe we will get some decent rain coming up. We could end up having a repeat of last year when May and June ended up dry with not much rain nobody knows how much it will rain or if it will rain in May or June. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 But the “trigger” for the ridging is completely different this year versus last year and 2015. There is actually a narrow z-cell structure now with low pass subsidence developing over the WP. That’s the opposite of last year and 2017/15/14, so when the trailing MJO axis leaves West-Central Pacific later this month, we’ll enter into a 1990s type +ENSO pattern with more GOA troughing/zonal flow and moisture draw. The 4-corners High is going to be pathetic this year.You usually forecast hot PNW summers, so this is a good sign. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Today really reminded me of 5/3/2019, weird.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 It's another Rex Block above normal PNW pattern and below normal Southern California pattern, just like last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Today really reminded me of 5/3/2019, weird....Today IS 5/3/2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Today IS 5/3/2019.Oh boy, someone is shy of a couple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 You usually forecast hot PNW summers, so this is a good sign.I did last year. And in both 2014 and 2015. And I think this one will end up on the warm side too, but for a different reason (more 1997-like..warm SW flow ahead of a growing GOA vortex type regime). Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Another day full of compete sunniness. Invest in those sunscreen and bottled water stocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 I did last year. And in both 2014 and 2015. And I think this one will end up on the warm side too, but for a different reason (more 1997-like..warm SW flow ahead of a growing GOA vortex type regime). 1997 was a pretty cool summer for the US. Not really warm in the PNW, either. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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