Front Ranger Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 That comment was in reference to June (which will have a troughy period) and the over-bullish nature of the EPS/modeling with the clown range ridging. If you say so. You say a lot of different things about a lot of different time frames. Sure seemed like you were initially telling Tim that the reds his EPS was showing in the 10-15 day period (when it was still May) were going to turn to blues. Impossible to track all of this stuff, which suits you just fine. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Yeah, thankfully (so far) it’s much more of a linear-type component as 500mb temperatures were a smidge warmer than forecast and there was some subsidence below 750mb. Don’t want to count chickens before they hatch, but it looks like the worst case scenario was avoided today. Hopefully the same is true tomorrow.East coast rules and west coast drools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 East coast rules and west coast drools. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 If you say so. You say a lot of different things about a lot of different time frames. Sure seemed like you were initially telling Tim that the reds his EPS was showing in the 10-15 day period (when it was still May) were going to turn to blues. Impossible to track all of this stuff, which suits you just fine. Honestly, I think my brain sometimes outpaces the rate at which I can put thoughts into words and it doesn’t come off clearly. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 This current pattern blows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 This current pattern blows! Good weather is ahead I wouldn’t be too worried about it. Hasn’t even been that rainy to start with. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Saw Denver could be getting some snow. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Looks like my old town of Bartlesville has picked up 4.2" of rain today. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Cliff Mass said California should be called the Evergreen State and Washington should be called the Golden State. With so much Sierra snowfall and well below normal temperatures for so many days, I'm guessing Lake Tahoe will not warm up to anything that is swimmable for the general population anytime this summer (if there is one, meteorologically) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Saw Denver could be getting some snow. Snowing heavily here currently, even sticking to the road. 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Good weather is ahead I wouldn’t be too worried about it. Hasn’t even been that rainy to start with.I was unable to take the yacht out this evening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Hopefully this pattern of swinging moisture in from the south continues through winter with cold air available, snow is better than rain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Snowing heavily here currently, even sticking to the road. Good Lord... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Good Lord... Hell yeah, better than what is happening here currently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Good Lord... It's nuts. This is the latest I've ever seen accumulating snow here, narrowly beating out 2017, when I saw .5" on 5/19. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Large night time tornado swinging through NE Oklahoma right now. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Snowing heavily here currently, even sticking to the road. I drove through the storm that spawned the Greensburg Tornado in 2007. Huge t-storms in W. Kansas and then 6" of snow that night in Laramie. This system sort of reminds me of that one. And major night time tornado in NE Oklahoma right now. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 It's nuts. This is the latest I've ever seen accumulating snow here, narrowly beating out 2017, when I saw .5" on 5/19. wow. Pretty crazy anomalies for the north central US. Seems to have not stopped since the crazy February in that area up through Montana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Delaware OK-Cherokee OK-1049 PM CDT Mon May 20 2019...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR LEACH......A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1130 PM CDT FOR SOUTHERNDELAWARE AND NORTHEASTERN CHEROKEE COUNTIES...At 1048 PM CDT, a confirmed large and destructive tornado was locatednear Leach, moving northeast at 45 mph.TORNADO EMERGENCY for Leach! This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUSSITUATION. TAKE COVER NOW!HAZARD...Deadly tornado.SOURCE...Radar confirmed tornado.IMPACT...You are in a life-threatening situation. Flying debris maybe deadly to those caught without shelter. Mobile homeswill be destroyed. Considerable damage to homes,businesses, and vehicles is likely and complete destructionis possible. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Same screwed up jet stream causing the record snow in the Sierras is causing the severe weather in middle of the country. It would be nice to see a pattern change sometime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 00Z GFS just jumped aboard the ECMWF train. ULL flies through with almost no precip on Friday and then its warm and sunny by Saturday. Previous runs had much more energy sneaking over the top of the ridge and that morphed into a trough over us for the weekend and beyond. The FV3 is showing the same thing... finally falling in line with the EPS now that we are within 5 days. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Starting to rain now here. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Warm north and cold south by Sunday per the GFS: Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 The same areas that have been wetter than other areas in western WA this month have been getting rain all day with that stationary band. And its been missing SEA almost entirely. In a couple weeks... the area around SEA will be all dried out while areas just to the north and along the I-90 corridor will still be lush green. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Moderate rain falling here right now. Looks like a ton of precip for the Blues and Wallowas over the next week. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 The same areas that have been wetter than other areas in western WA this month have been getting rain all day with that stationary band. And its been missing SEA almost entirely. In a couple weeks... the area around SEA will be all dried out while areas just to the north and along the I-90 corridor will still be lush green. Just got home and it rained most of the way on the drive back today. 1/3” of rain in the bucket here today. Nice timing on the rain for me as it was basically a travel day of the long weekend. Fishing was extremely good at Watch lake, maybe a little too good as it was congested with boats at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 The same areas that have been wetter than other areas in western WA this month have been getting rain all day with that stationary band. And its been missing SEA almost entirely. In a couple weeks... the area around SEA will be all dried out while areas just to the north and along the I-90 corridor will still be lush green. I was just going to mention that. Same continuous set up. Have another .35 in the bank and still raining pretty good. Probably going to get close to 2” here on the month. Came home from Orcas Island today and was raining pretty good up there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Cold air pours into the upper midwest next week... Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Some convection occurring in southern OR, clouds looked vicious before sunset and there is a possible t'storm just north of me. Usually things die down after dark but seems like things are picking up looking at radar. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 22 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, 5/15, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 It is loud out here. Sounds like a front in February! Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 22 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, 5/15, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 I-70 on the southwest side of Denver... I wonder if sun angle might be a problem tomorrow as we near the summer solstice. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Been watching SVR weather coverage all PM. Enthralling stuff. Yeah I noticed a PDS was posted in Oklahoma, exactly what came of that? Wasn't able to catch a whole lot. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 22 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, 5/15, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Yeah I noticed a PDS was posted in Oklahoma, exactly what came of that? Wasn't able to catch a whole lot. Kind of under performed with tornadoes. Though there was a big one in NE Oklahoma this evening, a very very rural area. Big story is the massive flooding. Huge area of 4-6" of rain. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Picked up 0.08" of rain this evening. Solid. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Picked up 0.08" of rain this evening. Solid. Around .50 here on the day and still raining. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 The same areas that have been wetter than other areas in western WA this month have been getting rain all day with that stationary band. And its been missing SEA almost entirely. In a couple weeks... the area around SEA will be all dried out while areas just to the north and along the I-90 corridor will still be lush green. Approaching 0.4" on the day now, it's been raining pretty much all afternoon with that band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Around .50 here on the day and still raining. Well aren't you the cats meow. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Well aren't you the cats meow.Healthy 2.4 inches here in the last week and a beautiful weekend in there too. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Rainy here now. Was dry most of the day. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 21, 2019 Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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