Grizzcoat Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 imagine that. GFS caving.... 3 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 0z GFS follower to recent ICON/Euro runs for the Vet's Day wave. Could be a decent event for many in our sub 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Is the GFS simply going to be chasing the other models all winter? That won't be much help. 1 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 imagine that. GFS caving.... I'd call it more like "getting a clue" Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Is the GFS simply going to be chasing the other models all winter?Looks that way hasn't been the leader in any of the winter storms so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Is the GFS simply going to be chasing the other models all winter? after all, Leaders need followers Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintbeed1993 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 This weather pattern is atrocious if you aren't in the great lakes. I'd much rather have nice temperatures if it's going to be this dry. We can skip this during the winter months, thanks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Not too impressed w Mondays system. Still time to see what happens. I'd say an inch or 2 at best followed by frigid air. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 00Z Canadian with an I-80 special. https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gdps&p=snku_024h&rh=2019110800&fh=90&r=us_mw&dpdt=&mc= 1 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 00Z Canadian with an I-80 special. https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gdps&p=snku_024h&rh=2019110800&fh=90&r=us_mw&dpdt=&mc=Imagine that, I live a quarter mile from I-80. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Sure why not...12.6" on the year. Average is .8" old record 6.1". Temp atm is 13. I love it, but it's a little insane, still hoping this doesnt bite us later in winter with 55 n sunny in Jan to even this out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 00z Euro still has the stripe of snow through Iowa, but it's becoming drier each run. This run is pretty light. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 OAX posted a graphic showing how we could flirt with record low highs on Monday. 21-25 range. Too bad the precipitation along the arctic front is fizzling out. Best chance of anything looks to be around Norfolk. 1 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Happy TGIF!!! Novembrrrr continues with impressive early season cold as I'm experiencing the coldest air of the season (17F). Yesterday's high at ORD was mid-winter chill (31F) and it confirms my LR call that we would see this type of cold in early November, but what is coming early next week is even wilder which is crazy to think. Models are still wavering on the strength of the Veteran's Day system, so we'll see how today's runs go. If they still show something decent, I'll go ahead and start a thread later today and also include the Arctic Wave/LES event along with it which is going to likely be Historic for many of us. Natures 1-2 punch.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Boom! 06z GEFS starting to hit the idea of the beginning of LRC cycle #2 on 11/22???? SW Flow, NE PAC ridge, Greenland Block and there is that SER....boy, those 10mb/30mb maps I use are dynamite when looking for LR clues. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Boom! 06z GEFS starting to hit the idea of the beginning of LRC cycle #2 on 11/22???? SW Flow, NE PAC ridge, Greenland Block and there is that SER....boy, those 10mb/30mb maps I use are dynamite when looking for LR clues. If it verifies that might make for a stormy Thanksgiving, lets make all the holidays white! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 If it verifies that might make for a stormy Thanksgiving, lets make all the holidays white!Stormy Thanksgiving is on my calendar using the BSR and quite possibly the cycling LRC.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 The TV stations and CLE both are pushing the idea of records being broken next week, saying forecasted temps probably aren't even low enough. I don't even think this even close to low enough. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Good morning! Boy it is much colder here at my house then at the airport that is about 15 miles to my SE. The low here at my house was 16 and the current temperature is still just 17. But the official low at GRR looks to be a much warmer 23 but then again we do not live at the airport. The official H/L (at the airport) for yesterday was 34/24. For today the average H/L at Grand Rapids is 51/35 the record high is 72 set in 2009 and the record low is 16 set in 1991. The record snow fall for today is 7.5” set in 1921. Last year the H/L was 40/37 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerRick Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 The TV stations and CLE both are pushing the idea of records being broken next week, saying forecasted temps probably aren't even low enough. I don't even think this even close to low enough. Doesn't look that cold to me...Here's OAX(I'm taking the bike for a cruise tomorrow ): SaturdaySunny, with a high near 63. Calm wind becoming southwest around 6 mph.Saturday NightPartly cloudy, with a low around 34. Calm wind becoming north 5 to 7 mph in the evening. Winds could gust as high as 18 mph.SundayMostly cloudy, with a high near 40. North wind 8 to 10 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.Sunday NightA 50 percent chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 17.Veterans DayMostly sunny, with a high near 24.Monday NightMostly clear, with a low around 8.TuesdaySunny, with a high near 27.Tuesday NightPartly cloudy, with a low around 19.WednesdayPartly sunny, with a high near 41.Wednesday NightPartly cloudy, with a low around 25.ThursdayMostly sunny, with a high near 39. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Ugh, looking like N to NNW winds for LES next week. Looks like the Lakeshore will benefit only. Record cold with no snow for GR is going to suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I used to snowmobile into Fife Lake. It's about 20 miles inland from my former home. Nice hit there overnight PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI756 AM EST FRI NOV 8 2019..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON.....DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE......REMARKS..0700 AM SNOW 2 SW FIFE LAKE 44.55N 85.38W11/08/2019 E16.0 INCH GRAND TRAVERSE MI BROADCAST MEDIA24 HR TOTAL THROUGH 7 AM. REPORT RELAYED BY LOCAL MEDIA. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I used to snowmobile into Fife Lake. It's about 20 miles inland from my former home. Nice hit there overnight PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI756 AM EST FRI NOV 8 2019 ..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON.....DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE......REMARKS.. 0700 AM SNOW 2 SW FIFE LAKE 44.55N 85.38W11/08/2019 E16.0 INCH GRAND TRAVERSE MI BROADCAST MEDIA 24 HR TOTAL THROUGH 7 AM. REPORT RELAYED BY LOCAL MEDIA.The double lake effect snow must be intense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 NOAA: Arctic cold front remains on schedule to push southward through theforecast area early Monday morning. Model data has been showing aconsistency in a return of strong upper level jet dyanmics over theregion. Timing of the ageostrophic response along the barocliniczone is the main item to focus on for the Monday system. Thepotential exists for a good frontal wave response and high impactsnow event for Southeast Michigan Monday. Temperatures to craterearly next week. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 CLE's take on next week. I would like to make a side note and say I wish IWX or DTX would take Lucas, Wood, and Hancock Counties off CLE's hands. 90% of the subject matter in CLE's AFDs are focused in the snowbelt, it's almost as if their Western CWA doesn't exist sometimes. Western PA to NW Ohio is too big of a territory for a WFO to cover imo, especially considering the density of the population in this region. I mean look at this, they barely even delve into the possible system snow before going right onto the LES component. Same here for Calhoun and Jackson wrt GRR. Very rare is the day when proper attention is given to any synoptic impacts down my way. It's always about LES impacts from Kzoo up to GRR's back yard. It's beyond frustrating, so get used to that. sorry to say. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Sunny and gorgeous but cold. Temps are at 24F. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 All mets are now hinting on a potential snowstorm for SEMI next week followed by bitter cold. Lows in the single digits w a good amt of snow cover, clear skies will do the job. Highs between 20-25F. Lets see what models show today. Still early in the game and lots could change. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 DMX currently going with 1-2" with the arctic front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 ICON dried up big time with the arctic front. The NAM is well north into Minnesota and Wisconsin with all the forcing. GFS maybe ended up being more right than wrong with this one. Still time to go, but at this point I wouldn't expect anything more than an inch here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Gonna be extremely difficult to get anything exciting out of the arctic front. Models had been over doing it. Cold, dry air gonna squash many hopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Every run is more depressing. Shot of extreme cold, then it retreats to blah with no storms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 The Canadian trying to put something interesting together... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 The Canadian trying to put something interesting together... That's what I call sharing the wealth... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 So is the GFS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I just find it hard to believe that this system dries up knowing how wet storms have been this season. Might be the case where the models in the medium range are having difficulties. The 12z JMA from yesterday was very well organized and quite wet. Let's see what it shows today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I just find it hard to believe that this system dries up knowing how wet storms have been this season. Might be the case where the models in the medium range are having difficulties. The 12z JMA from yesterday was very well organized and quite wet. Let's see what it shows today. If I am not mistaken, that spits 10" of snow imby. Not too shabby. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 NOAA: Arctic cold front remains on schedule to push southward through theforecast area early Monday morning. Model data has been showing aconsistency in a return of strong upper level jet dyanmics over theregion. Timing of the ageostrophic response along the barocliniczone is the main item to focus on for the Monday system. Thepotential exists for a good frontal wave response and high impactsnow event for Southeast Michigan Monday. Temperatures to craterearly next week. All mets are now hinting on a potential snowstorm for SEMI next week followed by bitter cold. Lows in the single digits w a good amt of snow cover, clear skies will do the job. Highs between 20-25F. Lets see what models show today. Still early in the game and lots could change. Good Luck amigo! I'll say it again, Detroit has ALWAYS done well in a pattern with over-whelming cold. (should extend to our new KTOL partner as well) 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I just find it hard to believe that this system dries up knowing how wet storms have been this season. Might be the case where the models in the medium range are having difficulties. The 12z JMA from yesterday was very well organized and quite wet. Let's see what it shows today. This is an "everything must go right" scenario, and that JMA run did just that. Timing is more crucial imho than with the typical set-up. Nonetheless, as you've noted, storms have been moist, and generally get amped around the GL's so far, thus this season's trends would lean in favor. Even that frontal wave the other evening amped at the last minute, dishing out 6+ in numerous locales. Nice look from that JMA run. Good starting position for the Surf Low EDIT - A snow map off that run should be eye candy over my way. Do they have that on another site?? 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted November 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 This is an "everything must go right" scenario, and that JMA run did just that. Timing is more crucial imho than with the typical set-up. Nonetheless, as you've noted, storms have been moist, and generally get amped around the GL's so far, thus this season's trends would lean in favor. Even that frontal wave the other evening amped at the last minute, dishing out 6+ in numerous locales. Nice look from that JMA run. Good starting position for the Surf Low 20191107 12z JMA MSLP & hgt anoms.png 20191107 12z jma_T850_us_fh96-168.gif EDIT - A snow map off that run should be eye candy over my way. Do they have that on another site??I have yet to find one but I do believe WeatherModels.com has the JMA snow maps...I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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