Omegaraptor Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Adding on to earlier... you might recall that I was in Texas and missed 1/10/17. However, San Antonio actually saw some impressive temperature extrema and swings while I was there. The day I arrived it was 38/25, a -19 departure. The high temp went up but two days later they got a low of 19. Then the subtropical warmth broke through. On 1/10/17... it was 79/54 for a +16 departure. The Rockies and Plains create a “funnel” for cold air to travel straight down into Texas and even farther south into Mexico. The northeast coast of Mexico is one of the only places on Earth to be within the tropics and yet have recorded frost at sea level. Veracruz just above the 19th parallel and right on the sea has a record low of 32.4°F. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Adding on to earlier... you might recall that I was in Texas and missed 1/10/17. However, San Antonio actually saw some impressive temperature extrema and swings while I was there. The day I arrived it was 38/25, a -19 departure. The high temp went up but two days later they got a low of 19. Then the subtropical warmth broke through. On 1/10/17... it was 79/54 for a +16 departure. The Rockies and Plains create a “funnel” for cold air to travel straight down into Texas and even farther south into Mexico. The northeast coast of Mexico is one of the only places on Earth to be within the tropics and yet have recorded frost at sea level. Veracruz just above the 19th parallel and right on the sea has a record low of 32.4°F. I flew out of PDX as snow was falling on the evening of 12/14/16. I was in NE Oklahoma for the next 10 days. On the 17th we had a midday high of 52 and then an intense arctic front moved through, the temp fell to 8 by midnight. The next day was 17/-1. By the 20th the high hit 50 again. 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 PDX recently updated their top 5 warmest/coldest months/seasons/years chart, through January 2020. https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/pqr/pdxclimate/pg44.pdf It looks like 2016-17 was their 5th coldest “deep winter” (December 15-February 10) period on record, with an average temp of just 35.2 in that stretch. That year also featured their 5th lowest average max for Astronomical Winter on record, with an average high of just 45 for the entire December 21-March 20 period. It’s a period that definitely seems to be slightly underrated on this forum. Even though it obviously didn’t roll with the big dawgs like 1955-56 in terms of extremes, the extended chillyness was consistent on an historically significant level. 4 of the top 5 warmest summers have been since 2014. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 If we are talking about the Western lowlands I think PDX was a bit of an anomaly due to the outflow period following the January 10th event. That being said, I do agree we, including myself, underrated it at the time. I think that had to do with the general lack of widespread snow north of Portland (outside of the February event), and no regional arctic outbreaks. From a sustained cold perspective it is hard to find many years that are similar. We went through pretty much an entire winter with no real torching. I think if it was some winter from the 1920s we were looking at objectively we would rate it much higher than we do now. Especially when we factor in how sustained the cold on the east side was. I think February/March 2019 is a period that will endure too. Though it is hard to say that period is underrated on here, it was pretty special.Portland’s sustained cold was a reflection of the sustained cold in the gorge and on the east side. Nothing unusual there. It was our first winter in East Clark county and the cold offshore flow was VERY persistent. Well into February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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El_Nina Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 First cicada I've noticed so far this year here. Definitely the thinnest marine layer of the week today, too. Beautiful Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 In 16-17 I remember the flags seemed to be constantly blowing from the north down (up) the valley or all the way over the mtns from the east down the McKenzie valley in CCG events. I think there was one in early Jan? Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 12Z EPS shows a slow and steady warm up after tomorrow's trough. Hope it will finally be right. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 If we are talking about the Western lowlands I think PDX was a bit of an anomaly due to the outflow period following the January 10th event. That being said, I do agree we, including myself, underrated it at the time. I think that had to do with the general lack of widespread snow north of Portland (outside of the February event), and no regional arctic outbreaks. From a sustained cold perspective it is hard to find many years that are similar. We went through pretty much an entire winter with no real torching. I think if it was some winter from the 1920s we were looking at objectively we would rate it much higher than we do now. Especially when we factor in how sustained the cold on the east side was. I think February/March 2019 is a period that will endure too. Though it is hard to say that period is underrated on here, it was pretty special. I think 2010-11 is the most underrated winter on here. Two top tier Arctic air masses for when they occurred, one in November and one in February. The fact that places south of OLM didn't do very well for snow has a lot to do with that, I'm sure, along with the big rug pull in January. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I think 2010-11 is the most underrated winter on here. Two top tier Arctic air masses for when they occurred, one in November and one in February. The fact that places south of OLM didn't do very well for snow has a lot to do with that, I'm sure, along with the big rug pull in January. 10-11 was boring down this way. I feel like from a regional perspective, 16-17 is still better. As is 13-14. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 First cicada I've noticed so far this year here. Definitely the thinnest marine layer of the week today, too. Beautiful Friday.They’re out here now too. Overall ~ 2 weeks late, likely owing to the chilly May and late freezes. Lightning Bugs peaking now..usually that happens in late June. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Yellowjackets/ground hornets are starting to become a nuisance now. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 of the top 5 warmest summers have been since 2014. Two of those summers were top 5 at OLM, 2015 and 2017. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 10-11 was boring down this way. I feel like from a regional perspective, 16-17 is still better. As is 13-14. That was pretty boring for Puget Sounders. Very little snow. In a lot of ways, 13-14 was the inverse of 10-11. Much more impressive for OR than WA. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Spring 2011 was something else. At Silver Falls the monthly max in March was 52, April 60, May 66, 81 in June but only 4 days that month were above 70. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 67 here now. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I think 2010-11 is the most underrated winter on here. Two top tier Arctic air masses for when they occurred, one in November and one in February. The fact that places south of OLM didn't do very well for snow has a lot to do with that, I'm sure, along with the big rug pull in January. I think 1955-56 is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 What’s the most overrated winter, then? Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Silverwood... beautiful day. Perfect actually. Time to cool off after going on the rides with my daughter. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Silverwood... beautiful day. Perfect actually. Time to cool off after going on the rides with my daughter. Too many people too close together for my liking but it looks like a gorgeous day! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 What’s the most overrated winter, then? 11-1210-1196-97 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Too many people too close together for my liking but it looks like a gorgeous day!Your wife and kids would love it. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Got up early to test the repairs on my boat...Gorgeous morning on the lake! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 What’s the most overrated winter, then? Any good recent winter will naturally be more discussed and thus "overrated" relative to the greats of the past, which are easier to minimize for us folks who didn't experience them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Silverwood... beautiful day. Perfect actually. Time to cool off after going on the rides with my daughter. Good lord. 81 new cases in that county today. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 77 and mostly clear. Beautiful mountain view today, still quite white for so late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Silverwood... beautiful day. Perfect actually. Time to cool off after going on the rides with my daughter. Whyyyyy Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Though some warmer weather wouldn't be the worst thing this year, I wouldn't mind seeing a year that totally skips summer. After every summer basically being a torch from 2013 until this year it would probably be a good break for the vegetation. But this is better than those years at least so no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 WhyyyyyIts not crowded. Its pretty easy to keep your distance and its all outside of course. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Its not crowded. Its pretty easy to keep your distance and its all outside of course. I just feel like a lake/river etc would be a lot safer. Unnatural and excessive considering that we're in the middle of a surging pandemic IMO. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I just feel like a lake/river etc would be a lot safer. Unnatural and excessive considering that we're in the middle of a surging pandemic IMO.True... but this has been pretty safe. I have not really been close to anyone and there is a nice breeze. Its not dangerous out here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I just feel like a lake/river etc would be a lot safer. Unnatural and excessive considering that we're in the middle of a surging pandemic IMO. A personal, chlorinated pool is maybe safer? IDK. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Still really green all over the eco regions of eastern Oregon. From the Ochocos to the blue mountains. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Still really green all over the eco regions of eastern Oregon. From the Ochocos to the blue mountains.US26 at Ochoco Summit_pid2588 (5).jpegUS26 at Ochoco Summit_pid2588 (5).jpeg Hopefully a quiet fire season. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Still really green all over the eco regions of eastern Oregon. From the Ochocos to the blue mountains.US26 at Ochoco Summit_pid2588 (5).jpegAustinJunction_pid1522 (8).jpg There is a very large juniper and sagebrush eco-region between those two spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Marine layer clouds, which appear white on visible satellite imagery, matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 18z ensembles have suddenly trended cooler again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 Looks like PDX hit 80 today. Was a good run! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 What’s the most overrated winter, then?Any winter that delivered in other places that didn’t deliver here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 72/53...Marine layer burning off at 11am...turning mostly sunny. Perfect summer day. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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