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January 11-13 Major Winter Storm/Blizzard


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Models showing rain here again?! Well find your shocked colored crayon and color me with it! 
 

Seriously though I actually do think that’s plausible, it’s kinda been the story over the past few years for the Chicago area. I’m just hoping to get a good shoot in, those pictures in Iowa from the last storm looked incredible, hoping for something similar here! :)
 

Anyways, based on what I’ve gathered, here’s my prediction:

 

Chicago area: 1-3” because rain 

Des Moines: 19” because always

The rest of Iowa: 8” because it’s Iowa

Omaha: [ERROR 404]

Central NebraskaWx : 12” somehow because our lord and savior loves him 🖤

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8 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Honestly, 80%+ of the event looks like a wetter snow for Chicago area.  It's been a while since there has been a large wet snow event of this potential magnitude in Chicago proper.  Maybe have to go back to the Nov 2015 storm?  But even that one screwed the downtown area big time with hardly any snow.

2016 missed ORD southeast iirc. Nailed yby tho, right? Not sure what to think on this one. Not sold on the winds until like last night, most of the snow has already fallen. We'll see tho. Super busy with new work and not the best time for me to be able to follow. Keep falling way behind on these threads. With a very solid 10" already OTG, anything more with winds would be pretty amazing. Good luck down there!

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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6 minutes ago, jaster220 said:

2016 missed ORD southeast iirc. Nailed yby tho, right? Not sure what to think on this one. Not sold on the winds until like last night, most of the snow has already fallen. We'll see tho. Super busy with new work and not the best time for me to be able to follow. Keep falling way behind on these threads. With a very solid 10" already OTG, anything more with winds would be pretty amazing. Good luck down there!

Yeah, ORD barely got anything on 2/24/16 while I got around a foot.  Good luck to you too.

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Man- DTX saying that the dry slot will move through and pull in some really cold air and winds will start gusting up to 50mph! 
 

Forecast discussion at 4p  mentioned approaching high wind warning criteria AS the remaining 1-3 inches falls on Saturday.

That sounds like blizzard conditions to me…!!
 

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4 hours ago, Clinton said:

The morning of the last storm they showed me getting a dusting - 2 and I got 6.  I don't like my odds with them showing accumulations for me lol.

I don’t feel great about this one either but it’s possible some areas in central Mo.could get lucky with a few inches. They mentioned this in the NWS Stl AFD.

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12 hours ago, KTPmidMO said:

Yeah I haven't had a good feeling about this storm for central Missouri for a couple days now. Maybe I'll get proved wrong but I don't know. I'm more interested in the Monday system. Most models are putting a WIDE area of snow down on Monday and ratios look to be 20:1 or better.

I hope we score at least one decent storm before we lose the cold air.

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The 00z CMC looks like a really nice compromise. I'd be super happy with that result. 

I will say it's 12z run this AM showed 2 inches falling here today and I thought it was off its rocker as it looked like everything was passing to the south. But then we had a very heavy band develop and drop a quick 2 inches. So I'll give it kudos there. 

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Thursday morning's models won't be contaminated by this evening's snow burst.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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1 hour ago, Jaycee_CHI said:

Omaha: [ERROR 404]

Central NebraskaWx : 12” somehow because our lord and savior loves him 🖤

Jaycee, this literally made me laugh out loud. Snow forecasts in Omaha seem to always get screwed by some type of unforeseen phenomenon (too much dry air, warm air aloft or at the lower levels, sleet/pingers, Oma-dome, etc).   

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Alright, so Omaha's outlook now sits as...

00z NAM (Kuchera): 12.0"
00z NAM (10:1): 7.4"
00z NAM 3km (Kuchera): 4.7"
00z NAM 3km (10:1): 2.8"
00z RGEM (Kuchera): 11.2"
00z RGEM (10:1): 6.7"
00z ICON (10:1): 6.9"
00z GFS (Kuchera): 6.8"
00z GFS (10:1): 3.4"
00z GEM (Kuchera): 12.5"
00z GEM (10:1): 6.8"

... Post-00z NBM: 4.5"
... Flowers: 5.5"

Strange to me, even accounting for any snow crystal degradation due to wind, that forecasts would come in so firmly below the Kuchera average of 9.4", and even the 10:1 ratio average of 5.7".

Edit: The above also implies local SLR of 16:1.

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