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3 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Mark and I go way back. Love hate thing. If I had any social media I would make jokes about him too 🥰

Im curious, how do you guys know eachother?

 

Also do you not realize the way you use this platform counts as social media?

Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th

Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107"

Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none

23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84"

 

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15 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

He'll probably make a few jokes about Jesse on social media.

Pretty sure Mark goes out his way to needle Jesse.   Not only does he not change Mark... he makes it worse for himself.  Never-ending cycle.   😀

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1 minute ago, the_convergence_zone said:

Got 0.41” of rain today. Pretty icky day but it was nice to get a good soaking before the warm spell. I’m off tomorrow so I’m going out to the mountains in the morning, hopefully the steady rain holds off until the afternoon. 

Looks like central Casades might be dry tomorrow until about 2 p.m.

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9 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

Got 0.41” of rain today. Pretty icky day but it was nice to get a good soaking before the warm spell. I’m off tomorrow so I’m going out to the mountains in the morning, hopefully the steady rain holds off until the afternoon. 

Not a drop here. 

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2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events)

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just here 

2 fight

weather evil. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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46 with some showers. Enjoying lots of college basketball.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Im

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weather evil. 

Silliness.    Pointless silliness.   

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6 minutes ago, Tanis Leach said:

Please put your message in. You have till Wednsday where at 6:30 pm I will deliver it to Mark personally. 

This is social media.  And Mark likely reads everything here.  And he could email Mark if he really wanted to do the screaming Karen thing in person.  But Mark already knows the deal.  👍

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Mark is likely posting his ridiculous wishcast just to troll us. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Just now, Rubus Leucodermis said:

A notch cooler than when I last checked, yet still lots of 70-burgers all the way up into southern BC.

Sorry, Andrew and Jesse.

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Salem never makes it to 70 on this map. The "burger" thing was always dumb and now it's just old and tired. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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36 minutes ago, Tanis Leach said:

Please put your message in. You have till Wednsday where at 6:30 pm I will deliver it to Mark personally. 

Ohh, this is the real deal. Now I’m getting all flustered!!

Tell him that when he retires in Yuma, AZ he can expect 80s every March ;)

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Today was active and breezy with fairly average temps for mid-March. High of 54 at midnight during a south wind burst, low of 42 this morning as the cold front passed over. Much of this afternoon was around 50 with gusty winds and heavy showers at times. Picked up about .40” on the day. Over an inch on the month now.

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With the warm wave, I do think we'll have an extended period of warm temps, but I'm not as aggresive as Mark is. Euro mean max for the upcoming days:

PDX

Thu: 61

Fri: 65

Sat: 69

Sun: 71

Mon: 71

Tue: 65

CVO:

Thu: 58

Fri: 65

Sat: 67

Sun: 68

Mon: 68

Tue: 65

 

850s, while Mark is correct that they peak at 10-16C according to the Euro, they peak on Friday, and on Sunday (the warmest temps), it's 10-14C. The atmosphere on Friday has not had enough time to warm up yet to 75+ (temp potential is 84 with those 850s, but drop to 81 by Sunday, and 80 on Monday). While the models have been worse than usual this winter, they have been good when predicting temps using the old rules (+2-7F at PDX when sunny and no snow on the ground). 

I finally have my new computer so I may get my graphical forecast back, but this is what I'm thinking at this time:

Thu: 66

Fri: 71

Sat: 75

Sun: 77 (more than 5 days, I don't forecast closer than 3 degrees to temperature potential)

Mon: 77

Tue: 72

CVO:

Thu: 66

Fri: 70

Sat: 74

Sun: 75

Mon: 75

Tue: 69

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2 minutes ago, Tanis Leach said:

With the warm wave, I do think we'll have an extended period of warm temps, but I'm not as aggresive as Mark is. Euro mean max for the upcoming days:

PDX

Thu: 61

Fri: 65

Sat: 69

Sun: 71

Mon: 71

Tue: 65

CVO:

Thu: 58

Fri: 65

Sat: 67

Sun: 68

Mon: 68

Tue: 65

 

850s, while Mark is correct that they peak at 10-16C according to the Euro, they peak on Friday, and on Sunday (the warmest temps), it's 10-14C. The atmosphere on Friday has not had enough time to warm up yet to 75+ (temp potential is 84 with those 850s, but drop to 81 by Sunday, and 80 on Monday). While the models have been worse than usual this winter, they have been good when predicting temps using the old rules (+2-7F at PDX when sunny and no snow on the ground). 

I finally have my new computer so I may get my graphical forecast back, but this is what I'm thinking at this time:

Thu: 66

Fri: 71

Sat: 75

Sun: 77 (more than 5 days, I don't forecast closer than 3 degrees to temperature potential)

Mon: 77

Tue: 72

CVO:

Thu: 66

Fri: 70

Sat: 74

Sun: 75

Mon: 75

Tue: 69

I’m hoping we can stay below 75. Would probably take a miracle at this point.

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I'm hoping everyone here gets the chance to enjoy this very mild upcoming early Spring week. If the warm weather and pertinent sunshine doesn't awaken the whole biosphere, I don't know what will. The middle and lower elevations of the PNW will get a solid head start on the leafout season with this heatwave, perhaps a couple weeks ahead of schedule near sea level and escalating to over a month in some of the foothills. Unsurprisingly on brand for a dying El Niño in a warming climate. I'm gonna be a moderate Mitchell here and claim that highs won't get too far out there. Low 70s in Seattle, upper 70s in the Willamette. Nothing ridiculous like the mid 80s.

Afterwards, there seems to be an intriguing push towards a midwinter-esque high latitude retrograde of the ridge. It's certainly possible given the immense magnitude of the initial ridge which will park overhead this week; heights nearly four sigma decameters above the mid march average. And with there being some cold on our side of the pole trapped in the vicinity of northeast Alaska, there may be gas yet left from our 2023-24 season in a very, very high end, out there blocking scenario. Reading some of the great 1800's talk we've been having over these last few days, we do know there's still a dying breath's potential to squeeze out a Salem Slushie Special on some Spring Sunday sometime soon, surely. Sayonara!

But hold your thawing horses. Tomorrow and into Tuesday we have more transitive troughing to contend with, maybe bringing some lightning via some of the well timed bands of showers. There'll be more of a westerly component to this next incoming trough, so the Seattle area will probably deal with more Olympic shadowing, and will have to benefit from clear sky daytime heating and other thermal perturbations in the PSCZ to swoop in a squall line. We're in mid March now... could happen. Just the other day we had hail showers under a surprisingly clear sky!

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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GFS pretty consistent in retrograding the ridge by Tuesday.    GEM went that direction as well.  3 or 4 warm days... pretty standard for March.  

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5 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I'm hoping everyone here gets the chance to enjoy this very mild upcoming early Spring week. If the warm weather and pertinent sunshine doesn't awaken the whole biosphere, I don't know what will. The middle and lower elevations of the PNW will get a solid head start on the leafout season with this heatwave, perhaps a couple weeks ahead of schedule near sea level and escalating to over a month in some of the foothills. Unsurprisingly on brand for a dying El Niño in a warming climate. I'm gonna be a moderate Mitchell here and claim that highs won't get too far out there. Low 70s in Seattle, upper 70s in the Willamette. Nothing ridiculous like the mid 80s.

Afterwards, there seems to be an intriguing push towards a midwinter-esque high latitude retrograde of the ridge. It's certainly possible given the immense magnitude of the initial ridge which will park overhead this week; heights nearly four sigma decameters above the mid march average. And with there being some cold on our side of the pole trapped in the vicinity of northeast Alaska, there may be gas yet left from our 2023-24 season in a very, very high end, out there blocking scenario. Reading some of the great 1800's talk we've been having over these last few days, we do know there's still a dying breath's potential to squeeze out a Salem Slushie Special on some Spring Sunday sometime soon, surely. Sayonara!

But hold your thawing horses. Tomorrow and into Tuesday we have more transitive troughing to contend with, maybe bringing some lightning via some of the well timed bands of showers. There'll be more of a westerly component to this next incoming trough, so the Seattle area will probably deal with more Olympic shadowing, and will have to benefit from clear sky daytime heating and other thermal perturbations in the PSCZ to swoop in a squall line. We're in mid March now... could happen. Just the other day we had hail showers under a surprisingly clear sky!

Phenology getting pushed 2-4 weeks ahead of schedule seems pretty bold, especially since as of right now everything seems to be at least several days behind, thanks to the late Feb/early March cool spell. I’d say this could stand to push things a week or so ahead of normal. Mild rain is probably the best at jump starting things. Warm afternoon temps with cool mornings and drier air is decent, but not quite as effective.

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11 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Phenology getting pushed 2-4 weeks ahead of schedule seems pretty bold, especially since as of right now everything seems to be at least several days behind, thanks to the late Feb/early March cool spell. I’d say this could stand to push things a week or so ahead of normal. Mild rain is probably the best at jump starting things. Warm afternoon temps with cool mornings and drier air is decent, but not quite as effective.

Feir, given the dry heir

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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1 hour ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

46 with some showers. Enjoying lots of college basketball.

Go beavers, boo ducks!

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Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th

Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107"

Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none

23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84"

 

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1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

This is social media.  And Mark likely reads everything here.  And he could email Mark if he really wanted to do the screaming Karen thing in person.  But Mark already knows the deal.  👍

I really hope Mark Nelsen reads the posts here

 

Mark if you're reading this, MAKE A POST ALREADY, COWARD!

Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th

Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107"

Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none

23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84"

 

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5 minutes ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

I really hope Mark Nelsen reads the posts here

 

Mark if you're reading this, MAKE A POST ALREADY, COWARD!

How do you know he hasn't?

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if antimarinelayer is ACTUALLY Mark Nelson.

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It was a nice and fairly warm day 6yrs ago today! Was here with our home inspector making sure what we were planning on buying wasn’t a lemon. First ever deck pic! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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32 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Phenology getting pushed 2-4 weeks ahead of schedule seems pretty bold, especially since as of right now everything seems to be at least several days behind, thanks to the late Feb/early March cool spell. I’d say this could stand to push things a week or so ahead of normal. Mild rain is probably the best at jump starting things. Warm afternoon temps with cool mornings and drier air is decent, but not quite as effective.

Anecdotally it seems like most deciduous trees and shrubs are sensitive to base-50 growing degree days, so we can certainly rack those up in a warm rainy period. Plants here are ahead of last year by a few days but behind several other recent years. 

 

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If the 0z GFS verifies I will be a happy camper.  Kind of a mid 1980s vibe.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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25 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

GFS pretty consistent in retrograding the ridge by Tuesday.    GEM went that direction as well.  3 or 4 warm days... pretty standard for March.  

Looks pretty dry though either way. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 hour ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Phenology getting pushed 2-4 weeks ahead of schedule seems pretty bold, especially since as of right now everything seems to be at least several days behind, thanks to the late Feb/early March cool spell. I’d say this could stand to push things a week or so ahead of normal. Mild rain is probably the best at jump starting things. Warm afternoon temps with cool mornings and drier air is decent, but not quite as effective.

Totally agree.  Many of the nights during whatever warm period actually happens could be pretty cold in the outlying areas.  At this point above normal daily averages appear they will be limited to maybe as little as 4 days for some places.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Looks pretty dry though either way. 

Difficult to not be dry with high pressure dominating the NE Pacific.  

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

GFS pretty consistent in retrograding the ridge by Tuesday.    GEM went that direction as well.  3 or 4 warm days... pretty standard for March.  

GFS might end up being right.  Sometimes it does great with catching onto things in the longer range.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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