January 2015 Observations for the Pacific Northwest

[richard mann]

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http://www.growingproduce.com/fruits/apples-pears/opal-apples-launched-into-space/

http://www.goodfruit.com/washington-growers-league-meets-jan-22-in-yakima/

[wx_statman]

Maybe others should try harder to find something else to talk about. This happened last night. Why is anyone still talking about it? Was our little discussion that exciting/disturbing?

 

Man up, my fellow PNW natives (for those of you who don't know, I lived there for 25 years). Find something interesting to talk about. Reminisce on the glory days of your weather youth. Speculate on February. Hell, even post images from the 720 hour CFS if you must.

 

Otherwise, why complain about what's being posted here?

 

omg

[Deweydog]

Way to contribute yourself, buddy! This conversation is fun and harmonious!

Gonna be a quiet month.

[Front Ranger]

Gonna be a quiet month.

 

There it is! 

 

Looking like a good call. Assuming quiet = +PNA domination.

[Deweydog]

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http://www.growingproduce.com/fruits/apples-pears/opal-apples-launched-into-space/

 

http://www.goodfruit.com/washington-growers-league-meets-jan-22-in-yakima/

Upon your death, I really hope your brain is donated for scientific research.

[richard mann]

.. o.k.

 

(Right back at cha. ?)

[Front Ranger]

omg

 

[Deweydog]

There it is!

 

Looking like a good call. Assuming quiet = +PNA domination.

There's 17 days left in the month for crying out loud. You know better than that.

[Front Ranger]

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http://www.growingproduce.com/fruits/apples-pears/opal-apples-launched-into-space/

 

 

The last sentence is pretty odd: 

 

The question is, will they share nicely or try to hoard them for themselves just like people do here on planet Earth?

[richard mann]

The last sentence is pretty odd: 

 

The question is, will they share nicely or try to hoard them for themselves just like people do here on planet Earth?

.. Most likely a reference to the more specific variety's taste and so value connected to the idea.

[Perturbance]

December PDO of +2.51.  Highest December reading yet; 2002's in second place at +2.1.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

December PDO of +2.51. Highest December reading yet; 2002's in second place at +2.1.

That's incredible. Safe to say we are in a new positive pdo regime!

[Deweydog]

December PDO of +2.51. Highest December reading yet; 2002's in second place at +2.1.

Doesn't get much higher than that. Funny.

[Farmboy]

NWS point forecast for my area:  Tonight A 30 percent chance of rain after 4am. Patchy fog. Otherwise, increasing clouds, with a steady temperature around 42. Calm wind.

 

Current temperature: 32F  

 

Why don't they change their forecast?   Are they really that stubborn?

[Front Ranger]

I wonder what the coldest years and snowiest events during a positive PDO.

 

Coldest event for the PNW during mega +PDO = Dec 1983.

 

Coldest/snowiest winter during solidly +PDO = 1992-93. 1985-86 was quite +PDO, but only after November, the snowiest month.

[Front Ranger]

So yeah...

 

I don't mind off topic banter as long as its local, topical, friendly, and doesn't turn into people lobbing insults at each other. If I have people letting know that they the thread has gotten out of hand, then I'll post a reminder to stay on topic or move posts to a new thread. Its slow, its kind of boring for most people, and if people want to keep it straight weather, then I encourage you to post observations, questions, maybe local weather tidbits, and help keep the regional observational thread on topic. There are couple mods here who will hide posts, move them, or warn users at their discretion too. If there is going to be a back and fourth that will devolve into name calling or take several pages of crap, then well, I guess I need to start laying out some bans.

 

It gets a little old and disheartening having to deal with this every once and a while.

 

As long as the mods can differentiate between those doing the name calling/insulting, and those not. Last night, only one person was doing that.

[Deweydog]

NWS point forecast for my area: Tonight A 30 percent chance of rain after 4am. Patchy fog. Otherwise, increasing clouds, with a steady temperature around 42. Calm wind.

 

Current temperature: 32F

 

Why don't they change their forecast? Are they really that stubborn?

Stop looking at point forecasts.

 

Problem solved.

[liquidsnow]

52 days until we see 7pm sunsets again (perspective: we were tracking the November coldspell 52 days ago).

64 days till spring

157 days till summer

 

Don't worry all. There are better times ahead.

 

#KeepPositive

[TT-SEA]

52 days until we see 7pm sunsets again (perspective: we were tracking the November coldspell 52 days ago).

64 days till spring

157 days till summer

 

Don't worry all. There are better times ahead.

 

#KeepPositive

 

 

180 days until Jim starts his yearly posting push to tell us how everything is all lined up perfectly and everyone on here is horrible for not being as giddy as him.  

[Front Ranger]

180 days until Jim starts his yearly posting push to tell us how everything is all lined up perfectly and everyone on here is horrible for not being as giddy as him.  

 

 

[Deweydog]

Wednesday night King Kounty Komedy Klassics!

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Baby in the corn.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Zenith.

[Front Ranger]

Wednesday night King Kounty Komedy Klassics!

 

Good thing there's an extra K there!

[Deweydog]

Good thing there's an extra K there!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqNtY9SwEA

[Gradient Keeper]

00z GFS/GEM around day 8-11 has 500mb heights soaring over 580dam with a big, nasty ridge right over us. Real strong inversion and some places should get up into the 60s or 70s.

[TT-SEA]

Boo.

 

Im emjoying all of the early sunsets, golden afternoons, and low sun in the sky days I can get.

 

 

You don't like seasons?   

[Poulsbo Snowman]

00z GFS/GEM around day 8-11 has 500mb heights soaring over 580dam with a big, nasty ridge right over us. Real strong inversion and some places should get up into the 60s or 70s.

 

I was looking at that and doing a little speculating too.  I don't think 70s will be reached because of the low sun angle, but mid-60s with lows in the upper 40s might actually happen.  May in January.

 

Time to break out the BBQ.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

This has to be the worst winter in 30 years. Just a absolute piece of shitty. Good thing spring winter is just around the bend.

[Deweydog]

This has to be the worst winter in 30 years. Just a absolute piece of shitty. Good thing spring winter is just around the bend.

Been 30 years since 2009-2010?

 

We'll have to go to the booth with that one.

[snow_wizard]

180 days until Jim starts his yearly posting push to tell us how everything is all lined up perfectly and everyone on here is horrible for not being as giddy as him.  

 

Obviously you haven't noticed I rarely get too excited about it anymore.  The only real time this season was with the prospects for late Dec /early Jan which was well supported.  I'm actually disappointed you still stoop to this level of insult.  I hate it here...pretty much all I can say about it.

[snow_wizard]

Been 30 years since 2009-2010?

 

We'll have to go to the booth with that one.

 

Dec 2009 had some pretty impressive cold.

[Deweydog]

Dec 2009 had some pretty impressive cold.

Yeah... then nothing, save for a nice against the grain brief event down here late in the month. Regardless of how some people think we're currently getting "fooked in the a$$" a few years from now people will be able to put some perspective on it and realize we had three (at least) decent cold snaps. We can do a lot worse.

[BLI snowman]

I was looking at that and doing a little speculating too.  I don't think 70s will be reached because of the low sun angle, but mid-60s with lows in the upper 40s might actually happen.  May in January.

 

Time to break out the BBQ.

 

Nope, there definitely would be foggy inversions in the valleys with that pattern. 60s with sunny ridging doesn't really happen at the valley floors in January. Foothill locations OTOH would be very warm.

[BLI snowman]

Been 30 years since 2009-2010?

 

We'll have to go to the booth with that one.

 

Worst winter since 2012-13 here. Although regionally, both that and 2009-10 were a bit better than this one. 2002-03 was the last one that's worse on a regional level.

[Gradient Keeper]

I was looking at that and doing a little speculating too.  I don't think 70s will be reached because of the low sun angle, but mid-60s with lows in the upper 40s might actually happen.  May in January.

 

Time to break out the BBQ.

Foothills of Oregon Cascades could be in the low 70s perhaps.

[richard mann]

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Just a quick note here about the cold pushing the frontal stretch just off the Coast at this point. 
 
1501150545z nasa globlir.jpg
 
— Relatively weak cold, not very dense, this colder air has been moving slowly east across the broader Pacific, having started out a full nine days ago, from Northern China / Southern Siberia.
 
1501060000z nasa globlir.jpg

[Phil]

ECMWF ensembles go bananas with the high latitude -NAM response..GEFS is more muted and keeps the +NAO going. Hopefully, the former is closer to reality..

[richard mann]

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.. The three main NWS generated "Weather Stories" posted at this point, related to the weaker frontal stretch approaching currently. Fuller Far West.
 
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/FXC/wxstory.php?wfo=sto  (Second story "Week Outlook".)
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/FXC/wxstory.php?wfo=eka
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/FXC/wxstory.php?wfo=mfr
 
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/FXC/wxstory map.php

[SilverFallsAndrew]

It was just over a week ago you telling us how everything is falling into place now and how negative we were all being and how this forum sucked all of your energy. Remember the 'evidence is mounting!!' post. There was a manic run of excited posts by you... interspersed with scolding other people for not matching your giddiness. You don't remember that?

This post made me laugh...