VancouverIslandSouth Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 My elevation in North Vancouver is only 140' and we haven't fared well. But just 2 miles to my east on the same road and roughly the same elevation and it's been much snowier. I don't know why. In Burnaby the elevation is 300-500' where I usually am. Places in Burnaby with lower elevations have done just as well as the higher elevations too...e.g. 100' vs. 400'...more or less. Yeah, I noticed that when I was over there around Christmas. In Deep Cove the snow had melted off the trees and was fairly patchy on the ground even at higher elevations (the many tall trees certainly didn't help with snow retention), while the north end of Burnaby immediately to the south seemed to have more snow cover right down to sea level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Looks like some clearing should be occurring over the next few hours, possibly followed by some filtered sunshine tomorrow amidst a sharpening inversion and gorge gradients of 10+mb. Talk about a perfect storm... 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Looks like some clearing should be occurring over the next few hours, possibly followed by some filtered sunshine tomorrow amidst a sharpening inversion and gorge gradients of 10+mb. Talk about a perfect storm...Highs in the mid-20s tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 That flood was a big deal. I remember the official forecasts called for the Willamette to top the seawall by 2-3 inches and flood the lower part of downtown. It just fell short though. It came very close indeed. That was really something to see. We also found out how frail our road system was. I had traveled to Seattle after getting the frozen water pipe fixed at the house and got trapped up there when i-5 got shut down for days because of that landslide. I needed to get back to work in Portland so I drove down to the coast and took 101 down into Oregon then 26 back into town. This journey took forever because roads we're missing and lanes had been eaten away here and there. Could not believe how quickly a storm could chew us up and cause such a headache! I was glad to be home though. Scary memories 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Highs in the mid-20s tomorrow? Wouldn't entirely shock me. PDX won't decouple fully but they're also probably gonna have the wind all day tomorrow. Outflow is very impressively cold and dew points keep edging down. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Wouldn't entirely shock me. PDX won't decouple fully but they're also probably gonna have the wind all day tomorrow. Outflow is very impressively cold and dew points keep edging down.We are definitely in one of those self-perpetuating setups for cold at the surface now, it seems. December 2005 on steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I have to comment on the PDX temps today. The coldest Jan low since 1963, record broken from 1950, -21 departure. Wow! As jealous as I am I have to tip my hat to that. 4 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Blocking over the Hudson Bay in January, you don't see that very often. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2017011400/ecmwf_z500a_namer_8.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Wouldn't entirely shock me. PDX won't decouple fully but they're also probably gonna have the wind all day tomorrow. Outflow is very impressively cold and dew points keep edging down. 22 at TTD right now with winds E30G43. That is impressive! 15 at HIO 23 dp 13 at PDX 24 dp 16 at SLE Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I have to comment on the PDX temps today. The coldest Jan low since 1963, record broken from 1950, -21 departure. Wow! As jealous as I am I have to tip my hat to that. Agreed. Hermiston and Pendleton, OR broke record lows from 1909 today. That shocked me! Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Nice to see they are recording snow at PDX again. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Agreed. Hermiston and Pendleton, OR broke record lows from 1909 today. That shocked me! 1909 and 1950 were supposedly the 2 most spectacular minus PNA cold waves of the 20th century. Remarkable that records were broken from both of those with a totally different type of pattern. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Blocking over the Hudson Bay in January, you don't see that very often. A cold outcome for week two is certainly on the table right now. The CPC has been going with pretty cold colors for the NW. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Nice to see they are recording snow at PDX again.You should stick around for some casual posting. People miss your input. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Wouldn't entirely shock me. PDX won't decouple fully but they're also probably gonna have the wind all day tomorrow. Outflow is very impressively cold and dew points keep edging down. Definitely makes me think some freezing rain is likely on Monday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 We are definitely in one of those self-perpetuating setups for cold at the surface now, it seems. December 2005 on steroids. We are the new Kennewick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Nice to see they are recording snow at PDX again. Nice to see you back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 You should stick around for some casual posting. People miss your input. I'll try. I have been perpetually angry for pretty much the entire month, but it's hard to ignore how profoundly different this is than anything we have had in decades. The thought of not getting a decent snow before this winter is over D**n near makes me ill though. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Nice to see you back! Thanks! 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Thanks!I'm glad you are back. I feel your pain. It's been an incredibly frustrating couple of weeks for us Wa folks. Let's hope and pray w get hit soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I'm glad you are back. I feel your pain. It's been an incredibly frustrating couple of weeks for us Wa folks. Let's hope and pray w get hit soon. I think the chances are 60% or higher we will have another round of cold. We need some MJO forcing or something to change the details a bit. The ECMWF is looking good for a decent / progressive MJO wave so you never know. Kind of funny that an hour ago I was sure I wouldn't post again until spring. I really have conflicting feelings going on right now. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 The low level cold is very impressive right now. Cloudy skies and yet solidly below freezing here thanks to seepage of cold air from Central WA. Pretty unusual to have such a cold reserve to tap into. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goducks09 Posted January 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 In January 2012 I saw 32" of snow disappear in 2 days...If it is a warm heavy rain that 8-12" will be gone by Wednesday morning like it never happened. I imagine we will have plenty of parking-lot piles and road-shoulder burms that will stick around for a few days...depending on the longevity of the warm rain. Not that it will be all that comforting to see them stick around...rather, it will just be a reminder of what once was. I remember the Lake Oswego Alberton's parking lot still had respectably large piles of snow hanging around in January 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I imagine we will have plenty of parking-lot piles and road-shoulder burms that will stick around for a few days...depending on the longevity of the warm rain. Not that it will be all that comforting to see them stick around...rather, it will just be a reminder of what once was. At least I don't have to worry about that problem. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I think the chances are 60% or higher we will have another round of cold. We need some MJO forcing or something to change the details a bit. The ECMWF is looking good for a decent / progressive MJO wave so you never know. Kind of funny that an hour ago I was sure I wouldn't post again until spring. I really have conflicting feelings going on right now.Was going to mention the MJO, glad you said something. Anytime the strat warms, an MJO event is likely to ignite given the tropical strat will cool, creating a more convective regime for the MJO to thrive in. As of now, the MJO looks to begin over the East Pacific and shift into the EHem end of Jan/beginning of Feb. This lines up with Phils call for -EPO block to return. Welcome back http://i.imgur.com/TCDgErUh.jpg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Was going to mention the MJO, glad you said something. Anytime the strat warms, an MJO event is likely to ignite given the tropical strat will cool, creating a more convective regime for the MJO to thrive in. As of now, the MJO looks to begin over the East Pacific and shift into the EHem end of Jan/beginning of Feb. This lines up with Phils call for -EPO block to return. Welcome back http://i.imgur.com/TCDgErUh.jpgYup, no coincidence the MJO is readying to ignite following the potential SSW event: http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/hattard/realtime/u_65N_10hpa.png 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Woah http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs®ion=nhem&pkg=Tz10&runtime=2017011406&fh=-18&xpos=0&ypos=142 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 -53F in Meacham. Amazing airmass. It did hit -54 in the lower 48 already this year. Bonus points if you can figure out the location. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catnip Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Woahhttp://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs®ion=nhem&pkg=Tz10&runtime=2017011406&fh=-18&xpos=0&ypos=142SSW? What could it mean for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 An interesting comparison: Portland's mean temp is 29.4 for the first 13 days of January 2017. This is how it compares to past Januaries in the Portland-Vancouver area:21.3.....186222.4.....186827.0.....195027.7.....194928.1.....193029.2.....188829.4.....201729.7.....191629.8.....193729.9.....185330.3.....1875 30 yr normal: 40.4 4 Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 An interesting comparison: Portland's mean temp is 29.4 for the first 13 days of January 2017. This is how it compares to past Januaries in the Portland-Vancouver area: 21.3.....186222.4.....186827.0.....195027.7.....194928.1.....193029.2.....188829.4.....201729.7.....191629.8.....193729.9.....185330.3.....1875 30 yr normal: 40.4I think the most impressive part of this is that Bellingham's average for the month right now is 29 degrees. Dead even with Portland. Not too often PDX is in line with BLI for cold departures over a 2 week period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EA_TTD Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 19 degrees with a WC of -1. Remarkable by itself but the longevity of this pattern makes it truly something. And as an aside, Jim needs to post here...he gets trolled way too much but his enthusiasm has been missing from this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoastexpat Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 What's everyone's season snow total right now? I wonder if the PDX people have surpassed the metro Vancouver folks... what an epic storm. I'm at ~23" for the season so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Hillsboro is at single digits again. Wow. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 What's everyone's season snow total right now? I wonder if the PDX people have surpassed the metro Vancouver folks... what an epic storm. I'm at ~23" for the season so far I don't think anyone down here has had that much. I'm at a little over 17" here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 There is still snow on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow maniac Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 What's everyone's season snow total right now? I wonder if the PDX people have surpassed the metro Vancouver folks... what an epic storm. I'm at ~23" for the season so far[/quote1 inch here, pretty shitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I think the most impressive part of this is that Bellingham's average for the month right now is 29 degrees. Dead even with Portland. Not too often PDX is in line with BLI for cold departures over a 2 week period.Especially considering the general lack of snow at BLI. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrChris Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 What's everyone's season snow total right now? I wonder if the PDX people have surpassed the metro Vancouver folks... what an epic storm. I'm at ~23" for the season so farA couple inches in Dec that I wasn't here for (vacationing) and 7.5" in January so far so around 10-11" total for the season. Quote The Pacific Northwest: Where storms go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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