jaster220 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 56 minutes ago, tStacsh said: Storms like these have surprises the models won't pick up on. How quickly does it intensify? 20-30 miles on track either way make a HUGE difference. Lake effect/enhancement will happen until Saturday night. Wind direction makes a difference. If the wind isn't as strong, expect MORE LES on the west side. This is a nowcast. Well, it deepens later than what globals we're showing 4 days ago. They had 980-ish SLP at NIN or SMI vs 992 in far SEMI. Gets to 970's around Georgian Bay. Should do the trick for you guys over there. Warm lake may help too. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidFlanders Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Nice snowfall right now in Western Burbs of Chicago. Roads are slick. Wife and I finished shopping this am/afternoon just in time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, StupidFlanders said: Nice snowfall right now in Western Burbs of Chicago. Roads are slick. Wife and I finished shopping this am/afternoon just in time. Same here! Just got home from shopping and scenery couldn't get any better. I'm enjoying this day time snowfall even though we didn't get the higher totals some got out west. I'll be content if we manage to get 3" of powder and enjoy it for a few days during this cold spell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 The radar looks like its trying to really light up now over IN/MI...you guys are going to get some good rates. Speaking of which, I just clicked over to GRR and low and behold.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tom said: The radar looks like its trying to really light up now over IN/MI...you guys are going to get some good rates. Speaking of which, I just clicked over to GRR and low and behold.... You can see the Arctic front on radar moving in from the west a county over 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Be interested to see what this looks like Christmas morning for Santa - ha! 1 2 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, Niko said: Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Stacsh said: Lol They're an EC firm. They could care less about accuracy for our region. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tom said: The radar looks like its trying to really light up now over IN/MI...you guys are going to get some good rates. Speaking of which, I just clicked over to GRR and low and behold.... DTX mentioned 1"/hr but not here in the S portion of the CWA. Still, it would be a nice surprise if that were to happen. I like heavy wet snow and it makes a base that will be less likely to blow away in tomorrow's windstorm. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 NAM says I'm a pro Met for calling "Low Party over mby" days ago 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 NAM has remained consistent. The last five cycles showing a mid to upr-970's mb SLP in Huron. In subsequent hours, it has increased the strength a bit, but due to amping later it is a tad further east when it gets down to 970 mb 10 am Friday (should be about as wintry feeling of a morning as you can get around these parts) 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, jaster220 said: NAM has remained consistent. The last five cycles showing a mid to upr-970's mb SLP in Huron. In subsequent hours, it has increased the strength a bit, but due to amping later it is a tad further east when it gets down to 970 mb 10 am Friday (should be about as wintry feeling of a morning as you can get around these parts) First part called for 3-7”. It’s almost over here already with an 2 inches lol. This is moving quick and east 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 15*. On its way to 9. Some forecasts say 6* but why split hairs? Wind 24 mph It’ll be a cold start tomorrow. I’ll be on my way to the Okla. border near Lake Texoma. Where it’s 12*. Feels like -7. Wind gusts to 30mph. Good thing I still have my Swiss mountain coat. It got me through some time on a glacier. 1 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 Front is on my doorstep. Muskegon down to 24. I sit at 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Stacsh said: Front is on my doorstep. Muskegon down to 24. I sit at 32. I just took a snow fall measurement and I have 1.75" it is still snowing and here there is no wind but just to the west the wind picks up and the temperatures are in the 20's I have the same as you at 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Stacsh said: Front is on my doorstep. Muskegon down to 24. I sit at 32. I wonder if there is a brief period of heavy snow with the front? Guess we will soon find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 22, 2022 Report Share Posted December 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, westMJim said: I wonder if there is a brief period of heavy snow with the front? Guess we will soon find out. It’s really calm and quiet out. Light snow falling. Very serene and calm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Cold front is thru MBY the temperature the wind is now out of the NW and the temperature has fallen from 32 to 30 in just a few minutes. While not windy there is now a little wind and not calm. There is still some light snow falling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Sad that this only turned into a wind/lake effect event. Was looking forward to more on the front end. Apparently there will be a big lull tonight on actual snowfall. If the lake effect doesn’t materialize as a monster event this will be one bust of a forecast snow wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Last post for a bit: I’m going to be pixie dusted all weekend long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Stacsh said: Sad that this only turned into a wind/lake effect event. Was looking forward to more on the front end. Apparently there will be a big lull tonight on actual snowfall. If the lake effect doesn’t materialize as a monster event this will be one bust of a forecast snow wise. For sure NMI is in a much better LAT for the full effects. Seems like after days (if not weeks?) of anticipating a massive arctic invasion, by the time it is getting here, the E Asian Jet is hard on its heels and shoving it off quite quickly. Too progressive. We knew this would likely be a typical Nina roller coaster winter, but sheesh. 4 or 5 day dramatic plunges followed by 3 weeks of "meh" looks like the hand we're being dealt this winter. Getting extreme cold but not sustained cold/winter like other banner seasons. Oh well, its Christmas and if its White that will be huge in the end. Better now than a week ago and gone already. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, jaster220 said: For sure NMI is in a much better LAT for the full effects. Seems like after days (if not weeks?) of anticipating a massive arctic invasion, by the time it is getting here, the E Asian Jet is hard on its heels and shoving it off quite quickly. Too progressive. We knew this would likely be a typical Nina roller coaster winter, but sheesh. 4 or 5 day dramatic plunges followed by 3 weeks of "meh" looks like the hand we're being dealt this winter. Getting extreme cold but not sustained cold/winter like other banner seasons. Oh well, its Christmas and if its White that will be huge in the end. Better now than a week ago and gone already. I’m happy to get it now. And I’m glad it’s not a crippling Blizzard. Even though it will still be nasty. After New Years I’m obviously off winter. I’ll be excited for snow storms. But I’m over winter after the holidays. Hopefully the up and downs continue and we get some good warm ups for the second half of winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 This thread about to get real quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Stacsh said: This thread about to get real quiet Ikr. Even @Niko has gone away. Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, jaster220 said: Ikr. Even @Niko has gone away. Radar blossoming after the front came through. Down to 26. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMT Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Wind chill value at CR airport currently a balmy -41 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Currently -11 with -35 WC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 APX .SHORT TERM...(Friday through Sunday) Issued at 305 PM EST Thu Dec 22 2022 ...Oh the Weather Outside is (about to be) Frightful... 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Clear skies and some snow cover should send temps down into the negative teens. Currently -8 with a WC of -29. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, jaster220 said: APX .SHORT TERM...(Friday through Sunday) Issued at 305 PM EST Thu Dec 22 2022 ...Oh the Weather Outside is (about to be) Frightful... Its about to get windy that's for sure. Are you getting any flakes yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 MSP NWS....Hopefully people will take this seriously. Offices have been putting out heavy wording all week for this event. KEY MESSAGES: - Life threatening conditions will arrive with increasing winds, decreasing wind chills, and significantly reduced visibility overnight. Stranded travelers could be susceptible to hypothermia and frostbite within minutes. - The worst conditions are expected Friday afternoon through Saturday morning, with gusts peaking at 45-50mph. Please do not travel. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttumwaSnomow Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Ended up with about 3" from the system and some frz drizzle. Temp now -10. Power failed once. Brutal day with several break downs. 20221222_125014.mp4 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 8” drifts already tomorrow gonna be nuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa CO, MI Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stacsh said: 8” drifts already tomorrow gonna be nuts Did you notice the NWS AFD in GRR said the heaviest LE now will be EAST of US 131? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Ottawa CO, MI said: Did you notice the NWS AFD in GRR said the heaviest LE now will be EAST of US 131? Yeah. Certainly possible with strong winds. Everywhere is just gonna be blowing fine pixies all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Crazy radar showing lake effect vs system snows going opposite directions 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 15 hours ago, Tom said: @james1976 @Madtown What's your snow depth? 17" on the table. I believe it's probable closer to 20-24" out in the open not in the woods. It's pretty freaking deep for Dec. Hopefully tack ob 6-8" more Frinday night-Sat! 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andie Posted December 23, 2022 Report Share Posted December 23, 2022 Currently 9* Wind an almost constant 24 mph. Wind chill -10 3 Quote Before You Diagnose Yourself With Depression or Low Self-Esteem,...First Make Sure You Are Not In Fact, Just Surrounded By A$$holes. “If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” Gen. Sheridan 1866 2018 Rainfall - 62.65" High Temp. - 110.03* Low Temp. - 8.4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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