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PNW January 2023 Observations and Discussion


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12 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

The gas ones put out way more air flow, and the landscaping industry is utterly dependent on them for leaf clean-up. Will be interesting what happens in 2025 when contractors will be banned from using gas ones in Seattle as planned https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-city-council-approves-plan-to-ban-gas-powered-leaf-blowers/. Either the battery ones need to improve a lot, or the good 'ol rake is making a comeback! And landscaping rates will go up because it takes more time to clean a property with a rake, broom, and electric blower. 

I am all about being green but not this far lol. I ended up using a rack and it took so much longer but it gets the job done✅

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2 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

I am all about being green but not this far lol. I ended up using a rack and it took so much longer but it gets the job done✅

Noise can be a pollution too. I can't stand them, but I get the tradeoff. 

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2022-23 Winter:

11/29: .25" + 1" = 1.25" | 11/30: .25"

12/2: .2" + .5" = .7" | 12/3: .2" | 12/4: trace

12/18: .4" | 12/19: .2" + .8" = 1.0" | 12/20: .2 + 1.5" = 1.7

1/31: trace | 2/14: trace | 2/22: .2 | 2/26: 1.0"

Total: 6.7"

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It appears this east wind event is going to underperform for once.  Highest gust has only been 19 here so far.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 hour ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Leaf blowers are too noisy. 

Are you going snowflake on us?

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 hour ago, MossMan said:

I notice a lot of homeowners will blow grass/leaves/clippings right out into the street when mowing or blowing…Drives me INSANE! I guess nearly 20yrs of working grounds at a golf course and a large retirement community it’s etched in my brain that clippings are NOT to be blown onto the pavement or cart paths, etc. super ugly plus it’s highly dangerous for motorcyclists. I call it extreme laziness. 

I could never do that.  Even when I did yardwork as a youngster, I hauled the debris away or put it in a pile the homeowner specified.

I've seen the same thing myself and it just reminds this is not the good old days.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 hour ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

GEFS long ranger

 

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Trends are good right now.  Let's keep it going!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 hour ago, MossMan said:

If they can make a powerful electric blower that equals my gas powered one with a battery that will last longer than 10 minutes I would be open to getting one. Until then…Gas for me! 

I'm certain they could make a plug in one strong enough.  Electric motors can actually be quite impressive for strength.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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What's the soundtrack for today's theoretical night shift?

"Let's mosey!"

 

--Cloud Strife

 

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3"

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1 hour ago, joelgombiner said:

I feel the same way about it! I think it comes down to economics as well as laziness. Landscapers want to make money, and the customers don't want to spend that much money on leaf clean-up. This results in the "mow and blow" operations that dominate the industry, where a couple guys blast the place clean in about 15 minutes (and essentially move the problem somewhere else, rather than fixing it). Classic externalized cost.   

I'm nearly incapable of cutting corners on almost any job.  Almost to a fault sometimes.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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This blower I have is a beast, most powerful battery blower on the market and the thing is almost as powerful as my huge model 800 stihl backpack blower! I grab this blower now most of the time. Battery runs 30 minutes on a charge. This company makes some nice stuff. 

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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1 minute ago, Requiem said:

What's the soundtrack for today's theoretical night shift?

I usually listen to Pink Floyd at that time of night.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

This blower I have is a beast, most powerful battery blower on the market and the thing is almost as powerful as my huge model 800 stihl backpack blower! I grab this blower now most of the time. Battery runs 30 minutes on a charge. This company makes some nice stuff. 

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765 CFM is pretty impressive!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

I'm nearly incapable of cutting corners on almost any job.  Almost to a fault sometimes.

I'm the same and the reason why I blow away the competition in the automotive repair world in our area over here. Just do the D**n job right the first time. 

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We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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8 minutes ago, MossMan said:

My dog is tired of boring January’s as well. 

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If you looked up bored in the dictionary this picture would come up.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

I'm the same and the reason why I blow away the competition in the automotive repair world in our area over here. Just do the D**n job right the first time. 

I think gen X is the last one that has that kind of work ethic on a large scale.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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5 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

This blower I have is a beast, most powerful battery blower on the market and the thing is almost as powerful as my huge model 800 stihl backpack blower! I grab this blower now most of the time. Battery runs 30 minutes on a charge. This company makes some nice stuff. 

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EGO is the best 👍👍👍

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With the MJO wave progress speeding up the models seem to like the idea of getting decently cold before this month is over.  Hope it actually happens.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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10 minutes ago, SnowWillarrive said:

Hope so. This pattern feels like El Niño

It's about to flip.  The persistent low pressure along the coast will be gone in less than a week.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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That system next Wednesday could bring us some snow. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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5 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Next Wed and Thursday are looking chilly, especially compared to the last 2 weeks. Probably 5 degrees below average. 

No doubt things are looking up.  The second half of the month may end up ok.  Remains to be seen if we can get something really good at the very end or not.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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35 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

This blower I have is a beast, most powerful battery blower on the market and the thing is almost as powerful as my huge model 800 stihl backpack blower! I grab this blower now most of the time. Battery runs 30 minutes on a charge. This company makes some nice stuff. 

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If the battery lasted longer I would definitely get one! Blowing around my place is a 4 hour job at the height of the fall blow down almost weekly so even with two batteries I would still be swapping and waiting for charging unless the battery is a quick charge? 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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High pressure cells beginning to log jam over the NE Pacific.  Good sign.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

He’s not a boomah!!!

Technically I can call myself either a Boomer or an Xer.  I chose X a long time ago.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

I honestly don’t recall how old Jim is…but the tiring “back in my day everything and everybody was perfect” and the “this generation sucks and none of them want to work” sayings get old. I know plenty of young people my age who work hard. 

I did specify on large scale.  I learned long ago that blanket statements are never correct.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

I learned long ago that blanket statements are never correct.

35 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I think gen X is the last one that has that kind of work ethic on a large scale.

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Weather stats for MBY

Snowfall:

-Total snowfall since joining: 50.25"

-2018-19: 21"

-2019-20: 2.5"

-2020-21: 13"

-2021-22: 8.75"

-2022-23: 5.75"

-2023-24*: 0.25"

-Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024

-Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021

-Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019

Temperatures:

-Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021

-Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021

-Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31

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I said on a large scale on that work ethic post.  It was not a blanket statement.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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