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Interesting Facebook post by NWS MKE.

 

We've had a lot of comments about warning decisions being made w/this event. Every winter storm is different. We know that there are a lot of decisions being made on these forecasts, so sometimes we can give warnings to others earlier based on our confidence.

 

We've had feedback that we've been going too high on many of our forecast amounts for snowfall this year, so we've been taking a slower approach on this event because there was uncertainty. It is a fast mover and the models don't always do a great job w/these events.

 

When Milwaukee or Madison are involved in those decisions, they become magnified by the number of eyes on the forecast. Bottom line: Know that we're putting a lot of effort into these difficult forecasts to make you aware of what is coming your way. -TH

I very much hate MKX had to post this. The worst part is, MKX hasn't actually been too far off. I've seen some pretty toxic posts on Facebook about them. Unfortunately when people see 7-12" they always assume it's going to be 12 ITBY.

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In Iowa City, I just measured 4.2" and 0.25-0.3" of Ice. Family in Hiawatha sent me a picture measuring 8.2". Given precip has mostly stopped, these will be my totals for this storm.

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2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha)

TOTAL: 10.2"

(12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") 

(1/1: 6.4")

 

 

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Currently at 30F w ice. Its beautiful outside, but dangerous.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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When I lived in Cedar Falls there was always, always, always more snow in Waterloo. It's crazy 5 or 10 miles makes such a difference repeatedly. I have a friend who swears it's because of the river....

 

Same issue here between Marshall and 5NW Battle Creek just 12 miles away, yet almost always score more. I am in the river plain and also believe that's a major reason why.

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Currently at 30F w ice. Its beautiful outside, but dangerous.

 

Mostly sleet and ZR for Marshall again...sigh. Expected to be on the low end of the 2-4" in my forecast last night, but the WTOD killed that plan. Another horrible feature of this winter's M.O. around here anyways. 

 

Hoping the expected snow & winds on the backside aren't yet another "model mirage". 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Snow is already blowing pretty well out there. Consistently blowing off the roof.

 

The snow, that is. It’s not actually blowing the roof off the foundation.

 

;) ..glad you clarified 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Mostly sleet and ZR for Marshall again...sigh. Expected to be on the low end of the 2-4" in my forecast last night, but the WTOD killed that plan. Another horrible feature of this winter's M.O. around here anyways. 

 

Hoping the expected snow & winds on the backside aren't yet another "model mirage". 

Yup.....Lets hope the backside provides the white out conditions that they are saying. Too bad Fridays storm vanished. That could have been a doozy of a snowstorm.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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I received 6.9" of snow.  That includes the icy sleet layer.  My liquid total is 0.84" (gauge catch) and 0.92" (core sample.  The wettest models were right.  The final euro run only had 0.62" here... way too dry.  I would certainly have received 9-10" if not for the dang mix monster.  This is the first time this winter a warning has verified here.

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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One final band of moderate+ snow is putting me over 7 inches.  There's a pretty good general increase in the snow intensity across east-central Iowa into Illinois.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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I just measured 7.5” of snow here. As Hawkeye said, our total would have been higher if not for the period of sleet/freezing rain here that occurred around 10:00pm last night. But still, a very good system overall.

 

Still may add a bit more with another band moving through now.

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Kinda neat to see the 540 line being dragged thru SWMI

 

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/s4/thck.gif

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Ice is just about done. Never did get any rain that was suppose to followed. Holding at 33F. Its a Winter Wonderland out there w couple of inches of snow and a little ice on top.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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With the whipping wind there is is no way I can measure the snowfall from these final bands, but I'm just going to assume a couple tenths fell.  That would put my final total at 7.1".  I'll take it.

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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With the whipping wind there is is no way I can measure the snowfall from these final bands, but I'm just going to assume a couple tenths fell. That would put my final total at 7.1". I'll take it.

There are a couple reports that are differing in my area (before this band, which may produce a little). 6.3” is the official DBQ measurement. Another measurement in East Dubuque had 6.3” earlier this morning, but it snowed more after that, and I never saw an update. There was also a 7.5” report just north of the airport. I said 6.5” this morning, but I also had a measurement of 7” and went conservative with me. I don’t keep track of my yearly snowfall, so I’ll just consider it a 7” storm or so, give or take.

 

There will always be that thought of how thing could have been more without that huge surge of WAA messing up our snow for a little while. But.. considering passing 6” seems to be like pulling teeth around here, I’m more than happy to take 7” from this. Really wasn’t 100% convinced we’d reach it when I went to bed, but glad to see it happen. Also made for a great ride to work this morning, as the snow plastered trees looked amazing. Storm isn’t even done yet, as the winds will wreck some havoc tonight.. but definitely one to remember.

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Winds have begun to gust big time and I'm hearing chunks of ice falling off the trees and hitting my roof/sky light.  Lot's of slush out there as temps rose above freezing all day but now this will all freeze tonight.  Hope to score an inch or so from this last wave coming through N IL to cover up the grass!  This system is now showing signs on radar of rapid deepening as it heads onshore into W MI.  The ULL is spinning just north of GRR right now.

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Winds have begun to gust big time and I'm hearing chunks of ice falling off the trees and hitting my roof/sky light.  Lot's of slush out there as temps rose above freezing all day but now this will all freeze tonight.  Hope to score an inch or so from this last wave coming through N IL to cover up the grass!  This system is now showing signs on radar of rapid deepening as it heads onshore into W MI.  The ULL is spinning just north of GRR right now.

 

This kind of thing is a sign of a nice system..

 

 

 

At 348 PM EST, an area of heavy snow and sleet was located along a

line extending from near Alma to near Owosso. Movement was northeast

at 50 mph.

 

This area of heavy snow will be near...

Henderson around 400 PM EST.

Oakley around 405 PM EST.

Chesaning around 410 PM EST.

St. Charles around 420 PM EST.

Bridgeport around 430 PM EST.

Saginaw around 435 PM EST.

Zilwaukee around 440 PM EST.

Munger around 445 PM EST.

 

Other locations impacted by this area of heavy snow include

Carrollton, Garfield, Fenmore, Crump, Buena Vista Township,

Indiantown, Bombay, Hemlock, Porter Township and Shields.

 

Expect a period, half or less, of intense snowfall rates that will

produce less than a quarter mile visibility quick half inch of

accumulation on the roads. Drivers should use extreme caution.

 

Didn't roll out a squall warning tho?

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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We’ve had about seven inches with a little more still falling. Hard to believe our run of true winter weather over the past three weeks or so - four real storms plus the two days of bitter cold and five school days cancelled - winter took its time getting here, but now that it’s shown up, it’s shown up with a vengeance!

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