June 2019 Weather Discussion in the PNW

[MossMan]

Up to .13” so far for today.

[MossMan]

I guess 2010 and 2011 didn’t happen then.

 

It’s not at all unusual to have a week or two of 2011-like weather in a typical summer. In early July it’ll probably flip back to ridging and summer will be back.

2010 was awful.

[Blizzard777]

Years.

Usually only use it the summer to know how much to water. Won't need to water for another 2 weeks now at least.

That was a nice slug of precipitation that fell from the CZ!

As it dropped south we got .08....not so exciting.

[TT-SEA]

Some sun breaking out in Seattle already this morning after the heavy rain overnight...

 

[TT-SEA]

Quite the rain yesterday evening and overnight. Pretty heavy for a while. 

 

Good 'ol CZ strikes again!

 

 

I thought you were in Idaho by now?

[Jesse]

Nice to see the day before the summer solstice.

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Nice to see the day before the summer solstice.

 

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Very nice to see. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Not sure how anyone could think this has been a cool late spring. Just because we aren't pulling off a June 2015 redux does not mean it has not been warm and dry. Salem's average high has been nearly 80 this month and didn't Seattle even get into the 90s last week?

[jcmcgaffey]

Here is some info on the pink rainbow last night. Pretty standard stuff. Don’t worry got the article from my wife...

 

https://www.womansworld.com/posts/pink-rainbow-138788

[Jesse]

I guess 2010 and 2011 didn’t happen then.

It’s not at all unusual to have a week or two of 2011-like weather in a typical summer. In early July it’ll probably flip back to ridging and summer will be back.

Calling this stretch 2010 or 2011 like is pretty generous. Those Junes had multiple days with highs in the 50s in the western lowlands.

 

In fact, every June in the last 25+ years aside from 2015 had cooler averages to date than this one. Not to mention May which was one of the warmest on record for PDX and SEA.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

End of the summer, at the earliest.

 

Ideally we want to get over there before the new school year starts but need to get our ducks in a row first.

 

Seems like there is a mass exodus to Idaho lately. 

[TacomaWaWx]

Here on the south edge of the C-zone we did get some rain after midnight but nothing too impressive just 0.04”. Bringing the monthly total to 0.10”. Driest record June for my records is 0.13” in 2015 so it probably won’t go down as the driest but it could still go down as 2nd or 3rd.

[Jesse]

Starting to look like there could be a reprieve in the troughy pattern around the 4th of July.

[Jesse]

Seems like there is a mass exodus to Idaho lately.

The 16-lane high speed one-way freeway they’re about to punch in From Enumclaw to Orofino should help move things along. I loves me some good infrastructure.

[Jesse]

Yeah, from all the big cities along the West Coast. I wonder why...?

The depopulation here is getting ridiculous. Explains why traffic keeps getting better and better each year.

[TT-SEA]

Can't really tell its been drier than normal here for the last 3 months...

 

[Jesse]

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Yeah, from all the big cities along the West Coast. I wonder why...?

 

Don't worry. I'm sure our West Coast "values" will have ruined Idaho within a couple of decades too.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

I hear high speed rail has been a big success in California. The inability of our country to move forward with necessary industry and infrastructure is staggering. I am grateful we have freedom of speech and thought which do not exist in most countries globally. However, most Americans do not realize how limited our economic freedom is when compared to even supposedly "Socialist" Scandinavian nations.  

[TigerWoodsLibido]

I hear high speed rail has been a big success in California. The inability of our country to move forward with necessary industry and infrastructure is staggering. I am grateful we have freedom of speech and thought which do not exist in most countries globally. However, most Americans do not realize how limited our economic freedom is when compared to even supposedly "Socialist" Scandinavian nations.

Bingo

[Farmboy]

Not a nice day at the market. Windy and cold today.

[TacomaWaWx]

Not a nice day at the market. Windy and cold today. IMG_20190620_103752.jpg IMG_20190620_103844.jpg

Must be tough not having it be 90-100 degrees and record breaking heat everyday there. Can’t imagine your pain.

[Omegaraptor]

Calling this stretch 2010 or 2011 like is pretty generous. Those Junes had multiple days with highs in the 50s in the western lowlands.

In fact, every June in the last 25+ years aside from 2015 had cooler averages to date than this one. Not to mention May which was one of the warmest on record for PDX and SEA.

Not sure how anyone could think this has been a cool late spring. Just because we aren't pulling off a June 2015 redux does not mean it has not been warm and dry. Salem's average high has been nearly 80 this month and didn't Seattle even get into the 90s last week?

I guess recent summers have distorted everyone’s perceptions of reality. People are now complaining about a week-long stretch of below average temperatures which aren’t even that far below average. We’ve pretty much forgotten what a cool summer really is.

[Farmboy]

Must be tough not having it be 90-100 degrees and record breaking heat everyday there. Can’t imagine your pain.

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I'm reporting the weather. This is a weather forum isn't it?

[Omegaraptor]

2010 was awful.

Especially if you were in Southern California. I wasn’t, but from what I’ve heard there was no beach weather that year. Just endless fog and highs in the 60s at the coast.

[TacomaWaWx]

?

 

I'm reporting the weather. This is a weather forum isn't it?

lol I was just messing with you wasn’t an insult.

[seattleweatherguy]

Starting to look like there could be a reprieve in the troughy pattern around the 4th of July.

The old saying was summer starts after July 4th in Seattle

[TacomaWaWx]

57 and mostly cloudy at 11am. Overall not too bad of a day wish we would have gotten more rain but it’ll be my turn to see some rain eventually. Days start getting shorter after tomorrow. Before we know it, it’ll be Halloween.

[Phil]

Can't really tell its been drier than normal here for the last 3 months...

 

Looks like Hippa Island.

 

Perfect weather for outdoor activities.

[Phil]

Not a nice day at the market. Windy and cold today

Move east of the Mississippi next year. You’ll love our perpetual heat and humidity.

 

My backyard steambath: https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/timeseries.php?sid=F3819&num=168&banner=NONE

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Here is a fun stat of the day for you.

 

Salem has had 6 consecutive August's with a mean temp of 70+ (2013-2018)

 

Prior to 2013 the last August with a mean temp of 70+ was 2004, prior to that 1978. 

 

Between 1892-2012 (120 years) there were 6 such August's...

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Here is a fun stat of the day for you.

 

Salem has had 6 consecutive August's with a mean temp of 70+ (2013-2018)

 

Prior to 2013 the last August with a mean temp of 70+ was 2004, prior to that 1978. 

 

Between 1892-2012 (120 years) there were 6 such August's...

 

Is August 4th the hottest and driest day of the year on average? I am not sure how to look that up.

[Timmy Supercell]

I am sure someone will pop out of the wood work to correct me, but this feels like one of the coldest few days in June that I can remember. My parents think its been the coldest late spring since 98.

 

I should dig up some graphs because recency bias is a *****.

 

June 2011.. it was the first Spring I experienced in Klamath Falls and did that one give me a false reality on what springs are really like on the east slopes. On my last day of high school I remember having graupel and the high temp was 47 that day. That's not what June is supposed to be like in K-Falls. My average high right now is 75 so I'm not really a cold area unless it's November-March.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Is August 4th the hottest and driest day of the year on average? I am not sure how to look that up.

 

Until 2006, Salem had never recorded rain on July 12th. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like the hottest days on average at SLE are:

 

July 19-28

August 8-11

 

All of those days have an 84/53 average. After the 11th though things start dropping off pretty fast. By 8/31 the average temp is 79/51. 

 

At SLE the coolest high on record in August is 59 on 8/24/1968.

 

The all time low is 30 (?!) on August 30, 1920. 

 

Most record lows, and especially warm season record lows at SLE are forever out of reach with the growth of the UHI. There has not been a record low in August at SLE since 1980. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Looks like the hottest days on average at SLE are:

 

July 19-28

August 8-11

 

All of those days have an 84/53 average. After the 11th though things start dropping off pretty fast. By 8/31 the average temp is 79/51. 

 

At SLE the coolest high on record in August is 59 on 8/24/1968.

 

The all time low is 30 (?!) on August 30, 1920. 

 

Most record lows, and especially warm season record lows at SLE are forever out of reach with the growth of the UHI. There has not been a record low in August at SLE since 1980. 

 

On the other hand I recall Eugene set at least 1-2 record lows in July 2016. 

[Phil]

If the 00z EPS is correct, we will transition out of this western trough/-PNA wave structure during early July, as intraseasonal tropical forcing leaves the EHEM and emerges over the WPAC/warm pool. In which case, a warmer, ridgier pattern is likely to take hold for the West during the first two weeks of July.

 

So, seems there is still not much of a background state present, should this evolution occur. The subseasonal cycles have dominated to this point. Hopefully this is quick enough to prevent any strong Plains/SE ridge from developing this summer. Need to keep those soils saturated.

[Kayla]

Looks like the hottest days on average at SLE are:

 

July 19-28

August 8-11

 

All of those days have an 84/53 average. After the 11th though things start dropping off pretty fast. By 8/31 the average temp is 79/51. 

 

At SLE the coolest high on record in August is 59 on 8/24/1968.

 

The all time low is 30 (?!) on August 30, 1920. 

 

Most record lows, and especially warm season record lows at SLE are forever out of reach with the growth of the UHI. There has not been a record low in August at SLE since 1980. 

 

I think this is a myth. Of course UHI makes things more difficult but why "especially warm season" records are out of reach? There are plenty of cities that continue to grow rapidly (including here in Bozeman) yet they still set warm season record lows along with cold season records.

 

I think it's just proof again on how bad the 2010's have been in the PNW. It's gotta flip at some point.

[TacomaWaWx]

If the 00z EPS is correct, we will transition out of this western trough/-PNA wave structure during early July, as intraseasonal tropical forcing leaves the EHEM and emerges over the WPAC/warm pool. In which case, a warmer, ridgier pattern is likely to take hold for the West during the first two weeks of July.

 

So, seems there is still not much of a background state present, should this evolution occur. The subseasonal cycles have dominated to this point. Hopefully this is quick enough to prevent any strong Plains/SE ridge from developing this summer. Need to keep those soils saturated.

Yeah the cool 60-70 degree pattern has gotta end at some point I suppose. Has been a nice stretch of cooler weather.

[seattleweatherguy]

If the 00z EPS is correct, we will transition out of this western trough/-PNA wave structure during early July, as intraseasonal tropical forcing leaves the EHEM and emerges over the WPAC/warm pool. In which case, a warmer, ridgier pattern is likely to take hold for the West during the first two weeks of July.

 

So, seems there is still not much of a background state present, should this evolution occur. The subseasonal cycles have dominated to this point. Hopefully this is quick enough to prevent any strong Plains/SE ridge from developing this summer. Need to keep those soils saturated.

So first two weeks of July likely for heat wave?