ShawniganLake Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Pretty stunning sunset and moonrise this evening. We drove up Rocky Point road out of Scappoose to watch it. You might know where that is Timmy.The moon shining thru a few stripes of high cloud just above the horizon looked pretty nice as I was driving home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Someone died in Canada today. First death from the virus in Canada. Finally was able to buy some toilet paper today. Superstore had a few packs left. This thing must cause some pretty viscous a*s explosions.We were just at Safeways this evening and their TP section was decimated. I don’t get it... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Someone died in Canada today. First death from the virus in Canada. Finally was able to buy some toilet paper today. Superstore had a few packs left. This thing must cause some pretty viscous a*s explosions.Toilet paper seems to come and go here... shelves are stocked and then empty and then stocked again. At least the supply chain is still active! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 We were just at Safeways this evening and their TP section was decimated. I don’t get it...I’d resort to leaves but those are tough to come by at this point too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 We were just at Safeways this evening and their TP section was decimated. I don’t get it... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 And yet, AK blocking can occur with +AO. See coming pattern.The AO would be transitioning negative through the AK wavebreak, though. Both the EPO and AO are expressions of the polar vortex and associated planetary wave breaking regimes. You’re trying to separate them and that’s just a flat out incorrect framing of the issue. Okay? Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 The nitrile gloves are coming off! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Gfs is on-board for a snowstorm here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Of course any of these teleconnection indices can diverge under particular circumstances, especially when patterns don’t fit their empirical orthogonal functions cleanly. That doesn’t mean particular indices cannot be subsumed within others, or that two or more indices are not related in one way or another. Two wildly different patterns can produce the exact same PNA/NAO/EPO/etc values. Understand what those values represent before deriving conclusions from them, because the same number can hold a variety of different meanings. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Boo, my one-run snowstorm is gone. Hopefully the easterly flow stays. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Looks like a fun weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 ECMWF has seemingly won this battle... much more consistent. And as I mentioned earlier today to Andrew... it seems like a westward trend has become more common in the models as events approach rather than the dreaded eastward trend that we all joke about. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquimalt Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 This run is colder than 18Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 This run is colder than 18Z For your area perhaps-- much warmer here. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Anyone who appreciates stats and math should care about this find. I am assuming Jared will appreciate it since he is very logical and this has always been a mystery to us. I am going to figure out the 4 problem stations now.Jared = logical? On what planet? Jared = linear is a better fit. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Of course any of these teleconnection indices can diverge under particular circumstances, especially when patterns don’t fit their empirical orthogonal functions cleanly. That doesn’t mean particular indices cannot be subsumed within others, or that two or more indices are not related in one way or another. Two wildly different patterns can produce the exact same PNA/NAO/EPO/etc values. Understand what those values represent before deriving conclusions from them, because the same number can hold a variety of different meanings.Can you at least reply to what you are adding to? Sometimes it seems like your are just rambling on and on to noone, just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 For your area perhaps-- much warmer here. The 18z was unrealistic. Still pretty d**n cold this run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeinthevalley Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Next time you say, "COVID-19," I dare you to think of the song "Come on Eileen." You're welcome. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 The 18z was unrealistic. Still pretty d**n cold this run. Still, this run has drastically weaker offshore flow and less cold overall-- lot worse than the 12z or the 18z. Hopefully it doesn't keep heading west, but the trend this year has been pretty clear. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 00z GFS looks better for me, so that's good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perturbed Member Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 For your area perhaps-- much warmer here. The -16c 850mb numbers the 18z FV3 spewed out was nonsense and I doubt any future runs will top those. -7c to -9c 850s and eventually some decent east winds seem possible. Accumulating snow above a 1000 ft, snow in the air below at some point. Anything much better than that is gonna take some real nice luck with things coming together just right IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Can you at least reply to what you are adding to? Sometimes it seems like your are just rambling on and on to noone, just an observation.Covid-19 messing with your grammar skillz? Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Next time you say, "COVID-19," I dare you to think of the song "Come on Eileen." You're welcome.For some reason I spell the COVID part out in my head when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 The GFS has come around to the ULL dropping south off the coast solution rather than an open trough moving through. This is much less likely to produce a c-zone snow bonanza for the east side of the Puget Sound region. Its actually the opposite and favors places like Vancouver Island and the Hood Canal. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Covid-19 messing with your grammar skillz?You as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Next time you say, "COVID-19," I dare you to think of the song "Come on Eileen." You're welcome. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 The -16c 850mb numbers the 18z FV3 spewed out was nonsense and I doubt any future runs will top those. -7c to -9c 850s and eventually some decent east winds seem possible. Accumulating snow above a 1000 ft, snow in the air below at some point. Anything much better than that is gonna take some real nice luck with things coming together just right IMO. Really as long as future runs stop gutting the easterly gradient (they already have started to do so), I'm fine with anything. If this year could give me one thing, some cold east winds would be very nice. 1 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 The GFS has come around to the ULL dropping south off the coast solution rather than an open trough moving through. This is much less likely to produce a c-zone snow bonanza for the east side of the Puget Sound region. Its actually the opposite and favors places like Vancouver Island and the Hood Canal.Yes you are correct. Hard to imagine a snow event in march like is shown but we're getting close now. At face value it would be a decent snow event over here. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Next time you say, "COVID-19," I dare you to think of the song "Come on Eileen." You're welcome.Too ra loo ra too ra loo rye aye gotta get myself a surgical mask. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Yes you are correct. Hard to imagine a snow event in march like is shown but we're getting close now. At face value it would be a decent snow event over here.So it will be unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Anyways, I'll just hope for more positive future runs for PDX. Rooting for no further decimation of the easterlies like this run provided. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted March 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Beautiful night here in Tacoma.Looks very pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 If you can’t count on virus-free, blistering cold east winds in mid March... Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Really nice night out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Really nice night out.Last night and tonight are the clearest the stars have looked this cold like season here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Last night and tonight are the clearest the stars have looked this cold like season here. Yeah the air is very clear and crisp and the moon is bright. Already down to 42 here. 55/29 spread today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Night shift!!! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Yeah the air is very clear and crisp and the moon is bright. Already down to 42 here. 55/29 spread today.Already crispying up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weiner Warrior Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 I heard if it snows it will attach the COVID virus as it falls and everyone that goes out to play in it will get sick. Still hoping for a few inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 I heard if it snows it will attach the COVID virus as it falls and everyone that goes out to play in it will get sick. Still hoping for a few inches.Bring it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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