Deweydog Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 If the GFS 18Z has anything to do with it the east coast will be having at least 3 arctic surges or events through the 21st of the month. Two of which have 850's between -20C and -30C. We start shaking in anticipation if the 850's look to get past-10C. I don't think any of our "blasts" topped -10C in Seattle this winter. I guess you gotta take what you can get. First time realizing the east gets much colder air masses with greater regularity than the west coast during the cold season? #drainthepacific Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yeah its only 36 in Lynden, though I don't believe they have made it out of the 30's through the duration of this event. Figured the cold air would have been scoured out up there by now.These weak Fraser outflow situations are fascinating to me. It's in the mid 40's North of the outflow in Vancouver, BC, but in the mid 30's around North Bellingham. It's also 45 degrees at WWU which is only about 6 miles from BLI but is blocked from the outflow by some hills to their Northeast and in the low 50's just a few miles South of Bellingham. 2 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 These weak Fraser outflow situations are fascinating to me. It's in the mid 40's North of the outflow in Vancouver, BC, but in the mid 30's around North Bellingham. It's also 45 degrees at WWU which is only about 6 miles from BLI but is blocked from the outflow by some hills to their Northeast and in the low 50's just a few miles South of Bellingham. Screenshot 2015-01-05 at 3.30.52 PM.pngI almost see my weather station in that map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm not going to pull up your posts from last week..we all know what you said. We also know that the NAM flip will take longer to occur due to the elasticity of the PV which remained stubbornly barotropic up until the wave-1 response. We went over this a week ago, so I'm not sure why you're bringing this up now. That said, we'll attempt at a -NAO during the 3rd or 4th week this month. It may or may not work out. I don't see it happening personally. MJO pushing out over the western Pacific will trigger the beginning of a -NAO/Aleutian Low, but the wave will most likely die off around phases 6/7 once again, causing it to be short lived. We've seen it multiple times already this winter from a tropical forcing standpoint, and it doesn't appear to be any different than the previous event. http://i.imgur.com/EmIHdBL.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I don't see it happening personally. MJO pushing out over the western Pacific will trigger the beginning of a -NAO/Aleutian Low, but the wave will most likely die off around phases 6/7 once again, causing it to be short lived. We've seen it multiple times already this winter from a tropical forcing standpoint, and it doesn't appear to be any different than the previous event. http://i.imgur.com/EmIHdBL.gifTrue, but the question is, will longer wavelengths allow subsequent breaking (behind the Aleutian low) to self-sustain without the need for tropical forcing? We saw something similar in December of 2010. The -QBO is going to prevent the MJO from progressing too far beyond the dateline until a legitimate SSW/PV breakdown can reorganize the mass transfer fields. Instead, any MJO wave that can make it that far will divide, w/ higher frequency KKCW propagations outside the MJO domain. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 True, but the question is, will longer wavelengths allow subsequent breaking (behind the Aleutian low) to self-sustain without the need for tropical forcing? We saw something similar in December of 2010. The -QBO is going to prevent the MJO from progressing too far beyond the dateline until a legitimate SSW/PV breakdown can reorganize the mass transfer fields. Instead, any MJO wave that can make it that far will divide, w/ higher frequency KKCW propagations outside the MJO domain. Guess it's a wait and see game. Seems to me that the stubborn PV this winter can be directly correlated with the -QBO/La Nina'ish WC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Winterdog Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 First time realizing the east gets much colder air masses with greater regularity than the west coast during the cold season? #drainthepacificThere I go again, making a statement that gets me caught in the talons of the greatest wit this forum has ever seen. When will I ever learn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Interesting to see BLI in the mid-upper 30's all day after being in the low 50's all evening yesterday. Lots of low level cold in the Fraser River Valley still. Hope has been below freezing all day and just changed over to rain it looks like. Missed a big outflow induced snowstorm here by 100 miles or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Lots of low level cold in the Fraser River Valley still. Hope has been below freezing all day and just changed over to rain it looks like. Missed a big outflow induced snowstorm here by 100 miles or so.So sad when things are so close to being great. Oh well, Febuary! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 So sad when things are so close to being great. Oh well, Febuary! Yeah, this was probably our best shot for something really worthwhile this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sometimesdylan Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/cesrQjC.png Predicted Snow levels for here on Thurs. Pretty crazy how Angoon and southward will have a snow level in the 5000+ range while Juneau northward will be fairly close to sea level or at sea level... You can def see how places like Gustavus (709), Juneau (754) and Hyder ( 0 ft -- middle right) all benefit from outflow winds. 1 Quote "There are so many waves coming in all the time, you don't have to worry about that. Take your time—wave come. Let the other guys go; catch another one." -Duke Kahanamoku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 It's funny, though. 95% of the time, that climate was pretty much the same as what we have now. For people coming from another climate, there would be hardly any noticeable difference. There were still the rampant Vitamin D deficiencies back then that Tim makes us all aware of now. It's just that other 5% people want more of What you saw in Dec 2008 was still better than 80% of the winters from 1940-70. There were plenty of disappointing winters back then, too, just not as many. All percentages are rough. But you get the point. I totally disagree. It was colder in all parts of the year in the 1946 to 1975 period than what we have seen recently. No way to say people wouldn't notice the difference between 1955 and 2014. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I totally disagree. It was colder in all parts of the year in the 1946 to 1975 period than what we have seen recently. No way to say people wouldn't notice the difference between 1955 and 2014.I wasn't alive in 1955 though, so I have nothing to compare it too and I would say I wouldn't notice a difference, impossible to say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Tell you what. I noticed the difference between spring/summer 2012 and spring/summer 2014. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I totally disagree. It was colder in all parts of the year in the 1946 to 1975 period than what we have seen recently. No way to say people wouldn't notice the difference between 1955 and 2014. I would have to agree. Pretty noticeable difference between the last cold phase and the past few decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Storm total of 2.87" here, of which about 2.8" fell in 24 hours and 2.3" fell in 12 hours. Probably the best rain event here since 2006 if not earlier. Also first time I have recorded two consecutive days with precipitation greater than an inch. Many of the fields are flooded around here and I talked to quite a few people whose garages were flooded. I can't imagine what another 2-4" would do. Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Storm total of 2.87" here, of which about 2.8" fell in 24 hours and 2.3" fell in 12 hours. Probably the best rain event here since 2006 if not earlier. Also first time I have recorded two consecutive days with precipitation greater than an inch. Many of the fields are flooded around here and I talked to quite a few people whose garages were flooded. I can't imagine what another 2-4" would do.Look at the pictures from Aberdeen and Hoquiam, thats what happened with 6-8 inches of rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Lots of low level cold in the Fraser River Valley still. Hope has been below freezing all day and just changed over to rain it looks like. Missed a big outflow induced snowstorm here by 100 miles or so. Missing by 100 miles is better than missing by 40 km. It hurts much more when you're literally right beside the event and nothing happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Tell you what. I noticed the difference between spring/summer 2012 and spring/summer 2014.Summer of 2012 was pretty good still. The summer of 2011 was pretty horrid. There was a lot of clouds with rain from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Storm total of 2.87" here, of which about 2.8" fell in 24 hours and 2.3" fell in 12 hours. Probably the best rain event here since 2006 if not earlier. Also first time I have recorded two consecutive days with precipitation greater than an inch. Many of the fields are flooded around here and I talked to quite a few people whose garages were flooded. I can't imagine what another 2-4" would do.Storm total of at least 4" here since Saturday some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Missing by 100 miles is better than missing by 40 km. It hurts much more when you're literally right beside the event and nothing happens. Try December 11, 2000. Got a dusting which melted in 45 minutes while the Salem/Keizer area 10 miles away had a solid 2-4" of snow. January 1998 was probably the worst I can remember. Nothing, but major snow event about 20-30 miles north. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Summer of 2012 was pretty good still. The summer of 2011 was pretty horrid. There was a lot of clouds with rain from time to time. Yeah I just realized that would have been a better comparison. Would have been even more marked if I had lived up here in spring/summer 2011. I remember almost every time I came up here in the summer of 2011 when the house was under contract, but hadn't closed and there was a lingering marine layer. Neighbors also say there was non-sticking snow up here at some point in May 2011, which I believe because interestingly I actually had snow fall and not stick on the morning of May 22, 2014. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yeah I just realized that would have been a better comparison. Would have been even more marked if I had lived up here in spring/summer 2011. I remember almost every time I came up here in the summer of 2011 when the house was under contract, but hadn't closed and there was a lingering marine layer. Neighbors also say there was non-sticking snow up here at some point in May 2011, which I believe because interestingly I actually had snow fall and not stick on the morning of May 22, 2014. November 2010-July 2011 was an awesome stretch of weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 November 2010-July 2011 was an awesome stretch of weather.Not for Tim and I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 How ridiculous was May 2011 at my location? Avg Max: 53.3 (-10.8)Avg Min: 38.9 (-0.9)Mean: 46.2 (-5.85)Max: 66Min: 28 There were only 5 days with 60+ highs in May 2011.It was the coldest May on record at that location by over 2F. https://climate.usurf.usu.edu/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USC00357809&year=2011&month=5&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 November 2010-July 2011 was an awesome stretch of weather. That winter/spring would have been tremendous up here. Late February through late April had tons of snow. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Looking at April 2011, that was also the coldest April on record up here as well. Only April 2008 is even close, a monthly mean of 39.9 in April 2011. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Snoqualmie Falls sure is raging right now. Looks seriously impressive. http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/2015/01/05/skyking-flies-over-snoqualmie-falls/21309377/ 2 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Try December 11, 2000. Got a dusting which melted in 45 minutes while the Salem/Keizer area 10 miles away had a solid 2-4" of snow. January 1998 was probably the worst I can remember. Nothing, but major snow event about 20-30 miles north. Try last February where I had 2" of snow and 1.5" of 33F rain while one mile north there was 12" of snow. That one hurt. You could literally look up the road (no elevation change) and see the snowfall rapidly increase. Of course I was lucky to get anything because another mile south there was nothing. Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Look at the pictures from Aberdeen and Hoquiam, thats what happened with 6-8 inches of rain. Yeah, but I am more speaking about here. The coast is a little bit more prepared for high rainfall totals and I am almost sure that 8" falling in Skagit Valley would lead to even worse flooding. 2" on the coast would have little effect as that happens at least a couple times of year. Of course then you have the Smethport, PA deluge of July 18, 1942 with 30.70" in 4.5 hours which is truly unimaginable. Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yeah, but I am more speaking about here. The coast is a little bit more prepared for high rainfall totals and I am almost sure that 8" falling in Skagit Valley would lead to even worse flooding. 2" on the coast would have little effect as that happens at least a couple times of year. Of course then you have the Smethport, PA deluge of July 18, 1942 with 30.70" in 4.5 hours which is truly unimaginable.That's like a bucket constantly pouring water in one spot, not sprinkling. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Snoqualmie Falls sure is raging right now. Looks seriously impressive. http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/2015/01/05/skyking-flies-over-snoqualmie-falls/21309377/ Just got word from the school district that the river level is now falling and no buildings were impacted... school is on time tomorrow. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Try last February where I had 2" of snow and 1.5" of 33F rain while one mile north there was 12" of snow. That one hurt. You could literally look up the road (no elevation change) and see the snowfall rapidly increase. Of course I was lucky to get anything because another mile south there was nothing.That would be painful. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I totally disagree. It was colder in all parts of the year in the 1946 to 1975 period than what we have seen recently. No way to say people wouldn't notice the difference between 1955 and 2014. On average, not by much. It was still a mild, maritime climate. The differences seem big to you as a PNW weather nut, but from a climate perspective, they were rather small. And comparing 2014 to 1955? How about 2008 to 1958? Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 That's like a bucket constantly pouring water in one spot, not sprinkling. Crazy. http://www.schnabel-eng.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Extreme-Events.pdf "At the location where theobserver recorded more than30.8 inches in 4.75 hours,maximum rainfall intensity wasestimated at about 10 inchesper hour, and reportedly therewas no “streaming” for thatrate. However, at otherlocations such as aroundAustin, the rainfall rate for veryshort periods ranged from 15 tonearly 40 inches per hour.Eisenlohr hypothesized that forsuch high rates of rainfall thedrops would be so closetogether as to coalesce intostreams and sheets as a resultof mutual mass attraction,possibly explaining thephenomenon where very differentcatches were recorded in containersonly a few feet apart." Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 According to some reports people were afraid that they would drown just going out in the rain it was raining so hard. Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 On average, not by much. It was still a mild, maritime climate. The differences seem big to you as a PNW weather nut, but from a climate perspective, they were rather small. And comparing 2014 to 1955? How about 2008 to 1958?I doubt the normal person would notice much of a difference. Besides, 1955 was a cold year, and 2014 was warm. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 How ridiculous was May 2011 at my location? Avg Max: 53.3 (-10.8)Avg Min: 38.9 (-0.9)Mean: 46.2 (-5.85)Max: 66Min: 28 There were only 5 days with 60+ highs in May 2011.It was the coldest May on record at that location by over 2F. https://climate.usurf.usu.edu/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USC00357809&year=2011&month=5&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0 The climate got confused that month and thought it was 1955. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 On average, not by much. It was still a mild, maritime climate. The differences seem big to you as a PNW weather nut, but from a climate perspective, they were rather small. And comparing 2014 to 1955? How about 2008 to 1958?I doubt the normal person would notice much of a difference. Besides, 1955 was a cold year, and 2014 was warm. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I doubt the normal person would notice much of a difference. Besides, 1955 was a cold year, and 2014 was warm. I really don't like to use the term cherry-picking, but... Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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