Omegaraptor Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Not much lightning. But WOW. This is the 1/10/17 of downpours. I got some videos of it. 15 straight minutes of monsoon rain. The lame part about it is that it seems fairly localized - a lot of the Portland area will miss out.Aftermath on the street: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 It's been raining for quite a while now. 2 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 61 here with over a quarter inch of rain so far. Very nice. PDX somehow managed to bump up to 65, but that’s still good for their coolest 6/20-8/20 high in five years.Impressive. Glad there’s guys like you around to catch this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 61 here with over a quarter inch of rain so far. Very nice. PDX somehow managed to bump up to 65, but that’s still good for their coolest 6/20-8/20 high in five years. I know it’s still early but I still think this summer is not going to torch like recent summers. I think something changed in February where we have been getting deeper longer lasting troughs and the general long term pattern setup has shifted over so that we are not under a ridge as much on the leeward side of the ridge with more nw flow. Phil can probably correct me with his long term thoughts but I feel like we will have more troughing and thunderstorms this summer. I feel like it has been forever since we have had a summer with good t-storms. It also may be because I moved from the foothills to Seattle which is shadowed much more from t-storms. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 I know it’s still early but I still think this summer is not going to torch like recent summers. I think something changed in February where we have been getting deeper longer lasting troughs and the general long term pattern setup has shifted over so that we are not under a ridge as much on the leeward side of the ridge with more nw flow. Phil can probably correct me with his long term thoughts but I feel like we will have more troughing and thunderstorms this summer. I feel like it has been forever since we have had a summer with good t-storms. It also may be because I moved from the foothills to Seattle which is shadowed much more from t-storms. 2013 was a stormy summer in the PNW and it was the last real stormy summer if I recall. Recent summers have been very devoid of storms (even by west coast standards) due to persistent ridging, I believe. And yeah, I definitely think February shifted up the atmospheric pattern a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Jones Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 The last couple days have been fun, the storm yesterday was one of the longest lasting lightning/heavy rain events I can remember seeing here. I had about an hour of steady rain and totaled a little over an inch from it, along with frequent lightning. Had another heavy rain shower a bit ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 I know it’s still early but I still think this summer is not going to torch like recent summers. I think something changed in February where we have been getting deeper longer lasting troughs and the general long term pattern setup has shifted over so that we are not under a ridge as much on the leeward side of the ridge with more nw flow. Phil can probably correct me with his long term thoughts but I feel like we will have more troughing and thunderstorms this summer. I feel like it has been forever since we have had a summer with good t-storms. It also may be because I moved from the foothills to Seattle which is shadowed much more from t-storms. We'll see. The season is still young. The second half of June has definitely gone a lot better than I was picturing, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Extremely good last two days, looks like most of the PDX metro won with this one. Not sure about Clackamas County but Washington, Multnomah, and Clark all got some really good action at some point over the past two days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Extremely good last two days, looks like most of the PDX metro won with this one. Not sure about Clackamas County but Washington, Multnomah, and Clark all got some really good action at some point over the past two days. I was jealous at first but then we had a good t-storm roll through finally today and got some rain so it’s all good. The t-storm yesterday in Portland seemed pretty intense. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 00Z GFS is sure nice... for this weekend and for the 4th and beyond. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Thought we were done for the day (and possibly the season), but one more surprise shower came through around 8 p.m. and was the most productive of the day, dropping 0.23" and bringing the daily total to 0.34". That should be enough to help stave off fire danger and additional tree die-off for a little while, at least Congrats. Very nice change from the last several years. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 GFS sure took a crap tonight. Today’s rain will probably be the last widespread rainfall for the region until sometime in September. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Cedar Lake station is almost up to 4 inches on the month... almost all of which has come in the last 10 days. Heading into the 4th of July still lush green here with no hint of dryness... similar to last year. Last year and this year both featured lots of rain in the last 10 days of June... difference is this year the wealth was spread around a little more. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Last year had the Father’s Day T-storm, but it wasn’t as impressive as the 6/26-6/27 2019 storm. Summer troughing can be pretty cool sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 GFS sure took a crap tonight. Today’s rain will probably be the last widespread rainfall for the region until sometime in September.Aaaand here we go again. Then in 2 weeks when it’s a sea of blue showing up again at 500mb it will be Tim throwing a hissy fit. The mood on this forum oscillates in sync with the intraseasonal cycles. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Aaaand here we go again. Then in 2 weeks when it’s a sea of blue showing up again at 500mb it will be Tim throwing a hissy fit. The mood on this forum oscillates in sync with the intraseasonal cycles.Humidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 ... similar to last year. Last year and this year both featured lots of rain in the last 10 days of June... difference is this year the wealth was spread around a little more.Another difference between last year and this year is the fact they’re different in almost every way imaginable. Sorry bud. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Aaaand here we go again. Then in 2 weeks when it’s a sea of blue showing up again at 500mb it will be Tim throwing a hissy fit. The mood on this forum oscillates in sync with the intraseasonal cycles. I don't think anyone is throwing a hissy fit except for you. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Another difference between last year and this year is the fact they’re different in almost every way imaginable. Sorry bud. I said the last 10 days of June we similar in my area. And it has been. That is all. Phil is looking for a fight... he must be bored at 2:30 a.m. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Cedar Lake station is almost up to 4 inches on the month... almost all of which has come in the last 10 days. Heading into the 4th of July still lush green here with no hint of dryness... similar to last year. Last year and this year both featured lots of rain in the last 10 days of June... difference is this year the wealth was spread around a little more. Always interests me how some places get so much more rain than others in such close proximity. I understand why it happens it’s just interesting. June 2019 cedar lake station 4 inches then there’s Tacoma with 0.17” for June 2019. Tacoma is also a pretty dry outlier for the last 2 months most places in western WA have had more than that. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 00z EURO seems to hold the trough a bit closer to us next week than the GFS, and recent runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 00z EURO seems to hold the trough a bit closer to us next week than the GFS, and recent runs.Its a little warmer earlier in the week... but a notch cooler for the 4th compared to the 12Z run. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Always interests me how some places get so much more rain than others in such close proximity. I understand why it happens it’s just interesting. June 2019 cedar lake station 4 inches then there’s Tacoma with 0.17” for June 2019. Tacoma is also a pretty dry outlier for the last 2 months most places in western WA have had more than that.Its a lush green drought out here. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 A lot seems to depend on the strength and location of that hurricane in the EPAC during the cycle of AAM loss. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Its a lush green drought out here. A lot drier here but still cool and just showery enough that I think we have lower fire danger this summer. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 A lot drier here but still cool and just showery enough that I think we have lower fire danger this summer. The fire season is young. Three months to go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 The fire season is young. Three months to go...Still already seems better than last year. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Still already seems better than last year.New normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Still already seems better than last year.Undoubtedly better than last year. Cliff Mass even touched on it. Only one small fire has happened in the PNW thus far this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 This article hits several hot topics I have seen argued on this forum:) https://komonews.com/news/local/4000-lightning-strikes-spark-at-least-32-new-fires-across-pacific-northwest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 There are 4 EPAC hurricanes in rapid succession on the 06z GFS. I it hard to believe that will verify given the CCKW passage is relatively rapid, but I suppose it’s possible under the continued +PMM (though it’s displaced westward now with a more southern ITCZ continuing on the low pass). 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 This article hits several hot topics I have seen argued on this forum:) https://komonews.com/news/local/4000-lightning-strikes-spark-at-least-32-new-fires-across-pacific-northwestYikes. That’s one of the few benefits of living in the swamp, I guess. We’re literally Zeus’s dartboard during the summer but the wildfire risk is pretty much zero. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 ITCZ. Hmm... International Convergence Zone?Yep. Doesn’t match last year’s super broad structure but the southern-based years (even if they get started late) can be quite active across the Pacific with the focused forcing/divergence as opposed to broad cell that is more open to destructive interference, especially during the second half of the season in the EPAC (though it depends on ENSO/warm pool structure and it wasn’t the case last year). I’d be nervous if I lived in HI this year, however. Nasty structural SSTA analogs showing up for them with the displacing of the +PMM west favoring that dome shape to the anomalies in ST divergence across the Pacific. The EPAC activity should trend westward with time, and it would not shock me if HI takes a direct hit this year. I almost expect it at this point. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Have gotten a bunch of rainfall from heavy downpours in the last two days. The thunderstorm on Wednesday night was pretty insane. Very rare to be getting lightening that frequently for so long. It just kept going and going. I was in a pretty nice spot the last few days for HEAVY RAIN. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Yep. Doesn’t match last year’s super broad structure but the southern-based years (even if they get started late) can be quite active across the Pacific with the focused forcing/divergence as opposed to broad cell that is more open to destructive interference, especially during the second half of the season in the EPAC (though it depends on ENSO/warm pool structure and it wasn’t the case last year). I’d be nervous if I lived in HI this year, however. Nasty structural SSTA analogs showing up for them with the displacing of the +PMM west favoring that dome shape to the anomalies in ST divergence across the Pacific. The EPAC activity should trend westward with time, and it would not shock me if HI takes a direct hit this year. I almost expect it at this point.Are they due for a nasty hurricane like a Cat5 impact? Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Are they due for a nasty hurricane like a Cat5 impact? Due? Hard to say they are "due" for a Cat 5. Hurricane Iniki in 1992 was a b*tch though. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 There was a stationary Thunderstorm last night in West/Central Marion county which dropped nearly 2" of rain between Gervais and Woodburn. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Ended up with 0.52" of rain yesterday. Up to 1.66" on the month. Still below normal, but not ridiculously so. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted June 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just 0.12" yesterday here. And only 0.34" for the month. Cooler temps are nice, but we really need rain. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted June 28, 2019 Report Share Posted June 28, 2019 12Z GFS is definitely cooler for the 4th... still nice but trending towards the ECMWF now. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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