Money Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Thats a big ice storm for e Iowa D**n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Looks like all snow here InterestingWouldnt take much to get you to although that 548 thickness screams sleet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Here's a super imposed EURO snowfall map onto Google Earth.Marked where James is since he's so close to the cut off for high amounts. Another one for Minnesota. Mind all the extra features on the map, I forgot to turn off certain layers. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Wouldnt take much to get you to although that 548 thickness screams sleetYeah it's close def closer than the last few euro runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 @Geos. Him and I are both right on the line. I am in SW corner of Des Moines metro...right off of I 35. So, so close. I still think I am good for 8"---hoping for the magical foot of snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Yep euro with lots of ice here. Only potential good news is that it may switch over to all rain for awhile and alleviate the bad icing for a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Here's a super imposed EURO snowfall map onto Google Earth.Marked where James is since he's so close to the cut off for high amounts. james_eurosnowfall.jpg Another one for Minnesota. gosaints_eurosnowfall.jpg Mind all the extra features on the map, I forgot to turn off certain layers.Thanks Geos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerRick Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Jim Flowers KMTV Meteorologist15 mins · Euro is in and still has warm layer at 10k feet at 34deg. Haven't seen soundings yet but snowfall looks overdone, more later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 @Geos. Him and I are both right on the line. I am in SW corner of Des Moines metro...right off of I 35. So, so close. I still think I am good for 8"---hoping for the magical foot of snow Wasn't sure where Cumming was. Now I know. You're exactly on the 6" line. I wouldn't worry too much about freezing rain at least. Sleet... maybe some.Sometimes models over do the WAA. I know during the GHDay Blizzard I, sleet was supposed to work into Chicago, but never did. Actually hail was reported a few times with t-snow. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Des Moines Euro:MON 06Z 28-DEC -3.9 -2.8 1028 65 12 0.00 566 544 MON 12Z 28-DEC -2.2 -4.1 1019 83 100 0.29 562 547 MON 18Z 28-DEC -1.1 -1.1 1005 88 99 0.57 555 551 TUE 00Z 29-DEC -0.1 -3.7 998 93 96 0.37 538 540 TUE 06Z 29-DEC -0.8 -2.5 999 94 84 0.07 544 545 TUE 12Z 29-DEC -3.9 -6.2 1009 89 61 0.01 549 542 Can you give me KOLU please? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzman289 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 it will be interesting where that baroclinic zone sets up with all the snow happening now out west Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Jim Flowers KMTV Meteorologist15 mins · Euro is in and still has warm layer at 10k feet at 34deg. Haven't seen soundings yet but snowfall looks overdone, more later.Interesting. I wondered if there might be issues with warming at very high levels given how dynamic the storm is and how little real cold air it has to tap into. Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Welcome to the our weather board Buzzman.Where are you from? it will be interesting where that baroclinic zone sets up with all the snow happening now out west You have an important point there. One thing to watch today and see where that band of rain ends up later with respect to where the models place it. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH4NU Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 OAX updated their weather story. http://www.weather.gov/crh/weatherstory?sid=oax&embed=#.Vn7ilLYrLDc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 If I was in Omaha, I wouldn't even worry much about sleet at this point. Usually it's over played on the models. Some pretty cold temps in eastern SD right now. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzman289 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 nw Cedar Rapids, i've been learning on here and other forums for about 3 yrs but this is my first time posting 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Can you give me KOLU please? Thanks!MON 06Z 28-DEC -11.3 -6.3 1032 70 2 0.00 564 540 MON 12Z 28-DEC -10.3 -6.9 1024 75 99 0.02 558 539 MON 18Z 28-DEC -8.2 -8.9 1014 89 99 0.39 552 541 TUE 00Z 29-DEC -7.9 -8.9 1008 87 94 0.51 546 540 TUE 06Z 29-DEC -8.0 -9.4 1010 86 91 0.08 546 538 TUE 12Z 29-DEC -11.3 -10.5 1015 84 23 0.03 547 535 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 This system... I don't want ice but it appears if thats what I'm gonna get/ Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Something about this storm that makes me aggravated. If all this rain were anywhere east of here, this would be one of the most over covered hype and panic storms for flooding anywhere on the news. But it's Oklahoma, a foot of rain, probably historic river flooding and flooding in many other areas. Nothing to see here folks. Lol. I guess Oklahoma/Arkansas don't really generate the ratings like South Carolina does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowa2015 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Oklahoma?? Wherethe hell is that place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabel23 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 I'll bet the farm on wsw being issued and not blizzard watch.....I'm patiently waiting on the update by Hastings!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Oklahoma?? Wherethe hell is that place?Lol. Exactly. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH4NU Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Winter Storm Watch issued for northwestern MO would expect OAX to issue soon. MO* SNOW AND FREEZING RAIN ARE POSSIBLE FROM SUNDAY EVENINGTHROUGH LATE MONDAY NIGHT.* TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF UP TO 7 INCHES AND ICE ACCUMULATIONSOF 2/10 OF AN INCH ARE POSSIBLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Winter Storm Watch issued for northwestern MO would expect OAX to issue soon. MO* SNOW AND FREEZING RAIN ARE POSSIBLE FROM SUNDAY EVENINGTHROUGH LATE MONDAY NIGHT. * TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF UP TO 7 INCHES AND ICE ACCUMULATIONSOF 2/10 OF AN INCH ARE POSSIBLE. I would hope Omaha or Des Moines goes with blizzard watch. My guess is Omaha will, but not Des Moines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH4NU Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 I would hope Omaha or Des Moines goes with blizzard watch. My guess is Omaha will, but not Des Moines I haven't looked at wind gradients but do they exceed or reach 35mph for a 3hr period do you know top of mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Maybe me and OKwx will get a flood watch. Sounds absolutely wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKwx2k4 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Maybe me and OKwx will get a flood watch. Sounds absolutely wonderful.Lol. Yay! Not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 I don't think Des Moines will go with a blizzard watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 I haven't looked at wind gradients but do they exceed or reach 35mph for a 3hr period do you know top of mind?. Looks like sustained around 25 to 30 mph for western Iowa from 7 to 5 on Monday, gusts to 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedRavs Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 I don't think Des Moines will go with a blizzard watch They may west of Des Moines, pretty easy out there to reach blizzard conditions between us and Omaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Nam coming in stronger again through 42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Nam coming in stronger again through 42The double barrel nature of the low really pushes it West between hour 33 and 42. Almost like the initial low slides straight East and the energy transfers to the West part of the low which pulls back NW. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=namconus®ion=us&pkg=z500_mslp&runtime=2015122618&fh=42&xpos=0&ypos=499 1 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 18z nam look slightly further E with sub 0C 850 temps in Ia (compared to 12z Nam)-- system also seems a tad further east and quicker-- also seems to occlude quicker... Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott26 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 The double barrel nature of the low really pushes it West between hour 33 and 42. Almost like the initial low slides straight East and the energy transfers to the West part of the low which pulls back NW. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=namconus®ion=us&pkg=T850&runtime=2015122618&fh=42&xpos=0&ypos=245With dynamic systems like this the NAM tends to have convective feedback issues which pushes the low NW. This is why I personally don't use the NAM until at least within 24 hours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Big ice storm again in southern wi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 That is one confused model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 The double barrel nature of the low really pushes it West between hour 33 and 42. Almost like the initial low slides straight East and the energy transfers to the West part of the low which pulls back NW. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=namconus®ion=us&pkg=z500_mslp&runtime=2015122618&fh=42&xpos=0&ypos=499Isn't this usually the problem with higher resolution models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott26 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Big ice storm again in southern wiI don't think this will be an absolutely crippling ice storm by any means, but with the strong winds and ice accumulating on the power lines the hardest hit areas will likely experience widespread power outages. Right now the WPC is outlines Eastern Iowa into NW Illinois for the mostly likely area of seeing greater than 0.25 inches of ice accumulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Nam gives nothing to Lincoln or Omaha this run either and only 2 or so for gosaints area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfreak Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 WSW watch for KC. Makes no sense to me based off of model trends the last two days. Really want to know what they're sniffing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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