PNW December 2022 - Part II

[Rubus Leucodermis]

 

[weatherweenie]

7 minutes ago, SnowySeeker50 said:

No snow, just raining.

OK thanks.  I'm trying to figure out if I should send my husband home from Kent.  He of course drives a Mustang...

[SouthHillFrosty]

7 minutes ago, Blizzard777 said:

Turning white hear but from sleet at the moment. Sounds lovely out 

and just like that snow mixing in…right behind you 

We are in sync. I’m about 10 minutes ahead of you right now 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

PDX made the jump to the upper 40s.

[Perturbed Member]

34 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

We'll see, unfortunately I just don't see this one having the juice/wet bulb combo potential to drive us into metro-wide snowfall accumulations. But the models do also still tend to undersell the short term 850mb wet bulb impact a bit with these low level cold pools. The aforementioned 2016 event really didn't show any face value snow potential in the forecast soundings until about 36-48 hours out, and this is obviously a deeper cold pool.

The warming aloft wasn't as quick/aggressive with that compared to this right? It would have been nice if we could be going into this with cold 850mb temps. 

BTW the 12z Euro shows that wet bulbing at 850 much more dramatically than previous runs. Drops from 0c to -3c pretty quick during that first band. Like you said though, I think most of that precip gets eaten up and its pretty doubtful that it leads to much snow accumulation. The euro soundings show the DP barely above 0F even on the west end of town at that time. At least the surface will be cold and allow whatever survives to stick right away.

IMO getting an inch out of this would be pretty lucky and I'd consider it a strong success. 

[Tenochtitlan]

Hard to believe this snowfall will say basically untouched until Friday! This will be the best stretch of deep snow and cold I've ever experienced, aside from maybe December 2008 in Seattle. I guess it's like our version of January 2017 in Portland.

I'm planning on doing some photography today in Sehome Hill Arboretum, but if it's too difficult to walk there then I'll take pictures in Maritime Heritage Park instead (where Whatcom Creek flows into Bellingham Bay). Yesterday I walked to the Arboretum and saw more varied thrushes than I've ever seen before--they must like the snow too.

 

 

[fubario]

all my oly homies rn reading the snow reports up north..

[awright-31]

Getting closer. Tacoma dropped 10 degrees between 11:01 and 12:11.

[Front Ranger]

29 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

PDX had a very slow thaw after that and a major ice storm over several days, as the cold air absolutely refused to budge near the gorge with the warm fronts being fairly weak.

1/1/1969 was one for the books and goes down as the biggest PDX to BLI gradient on record. PDX was 24/18 while BLI clocked in at a comfy 45/25.

Nice. 

Were the warm fronts in Jan 2004 fairly weak, too? Obviously we all know that models tend to scour out low level cold way too quickly by the gorge, but if some of the modeled depictions of strong front are correct, hard to imagine PDX would stay below freezing more than 36 hours after the precip starts.

Of course, that would still likely result in a major and very damaging ice storm.

[snow_wizard]

Snowing like a MOFO here.  Most amazing transformation I've ever seen in such a short time.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Went from heavy snow to heavy rain back to snow and now freezing mist is coating everything with I've all in the last 4 hrs. Currently 30 degrees at home with 4 inches of snow. The 4 was from lastnight I didn't score anything from  the backwash, I was about 3 miles to far south. The arctic front is looking pretty good on the nam.

[SnowySeeker50]

Trying to slowly transition to snow here now.

[The Cats Meow]

Everything in the Puyallup Valley needed a good soaking.  Man this rain is intense.

From a bust perspective for my back yard this has got to be one of the greatest for the National Weather Service.  They issued a watch or whatever you want to call it around 4 or 5pm yesterday and then welp, it all went to hell from there.

No faith in anything happening on Thursday or Friday after the performance yesterday and today.

[Requiem]

Ice maps for PDX please?

[TT-SEA]

Lots of traffic issues around here now... looks like Snoqualmie Pass and Hwy 18 are closed.  

Snow has really let up... down to just very light snow.

[DC1]

looks like maybe an area of convergence froming between seattle and everett!?

 

[Tyler Mode]

9-12 degree difference...

[HuskyMaestro]

5 minutes ago, fubario said:

all my oly homies rn reading the snow reports up north..

Fife/Puyallup/Tacoma too. Would take a nuclear winter just to have a taste of the snow up north right now..  

[Ice_is_Everywhere]

4 minutes ago, DC1 said:

looks like maybe an area of convergence froming between seattle and everett!?

 

Yeah, I'm seeing that too, worth keeping an eye on...

[WeatherGeek2022]

2 minutes ago, HuskyMaestro said:

Fife/Puyallup/Tacoma too. Would take a nuclear winter just to have a taste of the snow up north right now..  

what are the realistic odds we make our comeback a month from now? so much lack down here

[CloudJunkie]

Everything is soaking wet here in Lakewood. The roads will become deadly when it all freezes later.

[fubario]

2 minutes ago, HuskyMaestro said:

Fife/Puyallup/Tacoma too. Would take a nuclear winter just to have a taste of the snow up north right now..  

i think the posters in the area that gets the most screwed should win a prize, like, dinner at tim's house.

[TonyP]

Precip in Fife is wintry but I don’t think I’d call it snow. 

[SouthHillFrosty]

Just now, fubario said:

i think the posters in the area that gets the most screwed should win a prize, like, dinner at tim's house.

Tim should subdivide his land and build a house for WF posters to stay at during snow storms lol

[snow_wizard]

The models make a very good case for sleet Thursday night.  I would be ok with that.  Usually any bouts with sleet in this area are very short lived, but this could be something more.

[Meatyorologist]

28F back at the house and slowly dropping.

[The Winter Warlock]

Quick 1/2 here in Covington. Lots of big flakes - moisture is gone now though.

[Seattle]

Just now, Meatyorologist said:

28F back at the house and slowly dropping.

Down to 29 here. Always fun to see the temp drop during max heating hours.

[SouthHillFrosty]

29 degrees currently

.25in today with the snow basically done. 
 

Enough to lightly coat the roads!

[MossMan]

1 hour ago, Winterdog said:

Crazy weather.  3” fell before 2am then it warmed up to 33F until it started snowing again around 8am.  Added another 2.5” and the temp is now down to 27F.  Snow has stopped and I have around 5” remaining.  

It’s crazy how close you are and how different our weather can be sometimes! You got kissed by that wet warm tongue that luckily didn’t make it here. Never got above 23 here all night. 

[fubario]

3 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Tim should subdivide his land and build a house for WF posters to stay at during snow storms lol

or let them send 360hr kuchera snow maps from his account saying "ITS COMING!!"

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The models make a very good case for sleet Thursday night.  I would be ok with that.  Usually any bouts with sleet in this area are very short lived, but this could be something more.

Looks like we have a shot of some snowfall Thurs night with temps in the 20-25 range before the transition.  That would be cool.

[Meatyorologist]

2 minutes ago, Seattle said:

Down to 29 here. Always fun to see the temp drop during max heating hours.

Takes a good airmass to do that. Clouds and precip don't hurt, either.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

1 minute ago, MossMan said:

It’s crazy how close you are and how different our weather can be sometimes! You got kissed by that wet warm tongue that luckily didn’t make it here. Never got above 23 here all night. 

This was my payback for the last 2 weeks. Still got 4 though and temp never went above 32.5. 

[Deweydog]

Would be funny if PDX hit 50 in the middle of an Arctic outbreak…

[Tyler Mode]

2 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Would be funny if PDX hit 50 in the middle of an Arctic outbreak…

Wasn't December 1996 like that?  Epic snow up north and lots of rainy warmth down here.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

This one will be etched into my memory as one of the biggest busts in the Seattle south area ever. I'm bothered by the fact we have a top tier airmass at the border that just hasn't made it much south. Lastnight could of been a top 5 Seattle 24hr snowfall if things had been just a bit more suppressed. 

[snow_wizard]

7 minutes ago, The Winter Warlock said:

Quick 1/2 here in Covington. Lots of big flakes - moisture is gone now though.

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At least we eked out something.  Tonight should add to it.

[TonyP]

So what time was the arctic front precip supposed to get fired up? 

[Requiem]

1 minute ago, Tyler Mode said:

Wasn't December 1996 like that?  Epic snow up north and lots of rainy warmth down here.

The ice later this week would be on brand for that year as well. One difference though is that this year is way worse up there thus far