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PNW December 2022 - Part II


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14 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Yeah, I’m skeptical about how fast the Euro wants to warm things up Friday into Saturday after bringing in an airmass that, at face value on this run, advects PDX into the upper teens Thursday night. I don’t think it’s going to give up the fight that easily and this is a classic case of models underestimating the tenacity of the low level cold coming out of the gorge.

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44 minutes ago, Cloud said:

There is no BLI-SEA… best to look at OLM-BLI if you want that reference. Or even HQM-SEA. 
 

fwiw, most are interested in the BLI-YWL… which is ripping right now at about -20. This sets up for an Arctic plunge mid-week with the Fraser outflow. 

link for your reference
 

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sew/dients.php

I was wondering what it was doing.  I am on the edge of the outflow cone, and the gradient has to get pretty high before we see anything, and the winds have definitely picked up here. 

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Coming down nicely right now. Hoping this convergence zone can help give me some more going into this. Currently 28 and just measured about a 3 inch snow depth. Gotten an inch since the switchover to snow this morning.

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2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 51

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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8 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Could be a damned if you do, damned if you don’t… Models have some history of overselling the depth of the gradient. 12/20/08 was sold pretty heavily as having a pretty significant downslope component but we ended up dead calm during most of the WAA. It’d be a big model miss at this point but a boy can dream! A scenario like that would lead to a more tentative mid level situation though…

We'll see, unfortunately I just don't see this one having the juice/wet bulb combo potential to drive us into metro-wide snowfall accumulations. But the models do also still tend to undersell the short term 850mb wet bulb impact a bit with these low level cold pools. The aforementioned 2016 event really didn't show any face value snow potential in the forecast soundings until about 36-48 hours out, and this is obviously a deeper cold pool.

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6 minutes ago, Cold Snap said:

Coming down nicely right now. Hoping this convergence zone can help give me some more going into this. Currently 28 and just measured about a 3 inch snow depth. Gotten an inch since the switchover to snow this morning.

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I think you are in a good spot up there for the action tonight.

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**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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1 minute ago, Snownerd3000 said:

I recall a CZ was modeled around king/snohomish line as the front passed.  Is that expected anymore?

It’s happening right now. Sliding toward North Seattle/Kirkland at the moment.

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Now officially their longest streak on record without a teen (not counting the 116 of course).

Wow. I’d imagine the same at SLE? 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, Snownerd3000 said:

I recall a CZ was modeled around king/snohomish line as the front passed.  Is that expected anymore?

I think its more of an arctic front and it is still shown this evening.    It does not appear to be related to the departing system as it comes down from the north.  

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